Government claims it owns children, threatens 2nd mom with jail

PCXV

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I would rather that you owned your body and other people owned theirs.

Courts, as most presently exist now, are mostly theater and systemically flawed, since they lack the proper consumer feedback mechanisms that a free market court would have.

Who's responsible ? If you harm another person and it wasn't a result of a defensive action, good manners implies that you might owe them restitution.

Decide in favor of reason ? That's subjective, but I appreciate what you are trying to say there.
People do have bodily autonomy. You agree that this was about informed consent and not government coercion, correct?

Re: the courts and reparation. If they could prove, aka evidence, that vaccines were the cause of injury, our court system is set up to bring justice. Without evidence, the court can't simply decide on hearsay, correct?

Reason is subjective, but it is reasonable to prevent your kid from getting hep or tetanus or polio, or from starting the next epidemic, correct?
 

Chezus

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People do have bodily autonomy. You agree that this was about informed consent and not government coercion, correct?

Re: the courts and reparation. If they could prove, aka evidence, that vaccines were the cause of injury, our court system is set up to bring justice. Without evidence, the court can't simply decide on hearsay, correct?

Reason is subjective, but it is reasonable to prevent your kid from getting hep or tetanus or polio, or from starting the next epidemic, correct?
Rob Roy doesn't care as long as he can legally be allowed to fuck children
 

Rob Roy

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People do have bodily autonomy. You agree that this was about informed consent and not government coercion, correct?

Re: the courts and reparation. If they could prove, aka evidence, that vaccines were the cause of injury, our court system is set up to bring justice. Without evidence, the court can't simply decide on hearsay, correct?

Reason is subjective, but it is reasonable to prevent your kid from getting hep or tetanus or polio, or from starting the next epidemic, correct?
No people do not have bodily autonomy. One only need to consider prohibition, "controlled substances" etc. to see that.

The injury isn't limited to any effects of the vaccine. An injury occurs prior to that, when somebody else violates your autonomy over your body and forcibly injects you etc.

It is reasonable to try to prevent harm to your children.
 

Rob Roy

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Not as wildly as you swung and missed trying to argue the age of consent.

Only pedophiles do that. Enjoy your scarlet letter. You put it there.
I'm not arguing there is a particular age when everybody attains the wherewithal to give consent. Never have, numbnuts. Is that your belief or do you agree with me ?
 

Rob Roy

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LOL project much? You seem to be the one with that issues corollary; if you deny something enough times it does not become false, Abe. At least now I know why it stung you so much when Bob nailed you for pedophilia.
I have lots of projects. Today I hope to change tires on the tractor.

Also, it would much better if your insults were a bit more coherent. Thanks.
 

Rob Roy

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Shut the fuck up pedo, or at least be honest about your sick beliefs.

So theoretically you think a "mature" 12 year old could consent to sex with you?
Well, no. To me that kind of relationship requires BOTH parties to agree, so even though your little sister might be willing, I'm just not interested.
 

PCXV

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No people do not have bodily autonomy. One only need to consider prohibition, "controlled substances" etc. to see that.

The injury isn't limited to any effects of the vaccine. An injury occurs prior to that, when somebody else violates your autonomy over your body and forcibly injects you etc.

It is reasonable to try to prevent harm to your children.
Controlled substances falls under commerce control, not control of individual consumption.

Again, there is no evidence that "forcible injection" has occurred.
 
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curious2garden

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I have lots of projects. Today I hope to change tires on the tractor.

Also, it would much better if your insults were a bit more coherent. Thanks.
What I said made perfect sense. It is not my issue you are to ignorant to understand. That obviously aligns with your inability to argue in a logical manner and your not understanding even the most rudimentary facts about public health and statutory rape. Your delusions are disgusting, Abe.
 

curious2garden

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Controlled substances falls under control commerce control, not control of individual consumption.

Again, there is no evidence that "forcible injection" has occurred.
Precisely, currently it's vaccinate or put your money where your mouth is and educate at home. But that's horrific that an anti-vaxer would be expected to put their money (time and effort) where their mouth is; lazy snowflakes.

That was the issue with this entire bullshit thread. The dad wanted his kids to be vaccinated. So no one was forced. Did the kids want vaccines or not isn't an issue as they were under the age of consent, which concept completely escapes the OP.

The age of consent is the, sick, issue of the OP.
 
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