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medicineman

medicineman

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It seems that I hold an unpopular position on this forum. Who knew I was entering a den of right wing zealots. You who know who you are, take your best shot, I'm not as bulletproof as I once was, but most of your bullshit still bounces off. I will rejoice when all you wingers have to eat a giant bowl of shit on inauguration day when a black man takes the helm. My god that will be Hillarious (Pun intended). Maybe he can bring back some sense to this country as it has gone way past nonsense. The right would have us in war with half the globe as if kicking ass were going to make people like us. If this country doesn't turn the corner with this warmongering this Presidential cycle, we are fucking Doomed, yes with a capital "D". So even you idiots right of Richard Perle ought to wake the fuck up and see this is our last chance to be a participating democracy, either that or Sig-Heil motherfuckers!
 
ZenMaster

ZenMaster

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medicineman said:
It seems that I hold an unpopular position on this forum. Who knew I was entering a den of right wing zealots. You who know who you are, take your best shot, I'm not as bulletproof as I once was, but most of your bullshit still bounces off. I will rejoice when all you wingers have to eat a giant bowl of shit on inauguration day when a black man takes the helm. My god that will be Hillarious (Pun intended). Maybe he can bring back some sense to this country as it has gone way past nonsense. The right would have us in war with half the globe as if kicking ass were going to make people like us. If this country doesn't turn the corner with this warmongering this Presidential cycle, we are fucking Doomed, yes with a capital "D". So even you idiots right of Richard Perle ought to wake the fuck up and see this is our last chance to be a participating democracy, either that or Sig-Heil motherfuckers!
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It amuses me that you hold your self in such high regards to think that you are receiving ridicule because of your pioneer, new era way of thinking, and thus becoming a self-glorified martyr.

It is truly because of your ludicris philosophy on all political fronts including economy, welfare, and foreign policy, and also the way you present them and the way you handle opposition to your ideology.

I have worthy real-life liberal opponents and are ironically some of my closest friends. Now I will admit they are quite as liberal'd as you, mainly because they aren't psycho. However, I love a good debate, but you are keen on achieving victory through insults. You criticize Bush on totally irrelevant and arbitral conspiracies and not argue his plans and bills he has tried to pass through Congress. I would like to see more of this, besides blaming him for everything you can possible imagine on a daily basis, come here and dispute, civilly, what he has passed through Congress, or attempted to.

Now I know I'm kind of giving attention to basically a temper tantrum from an attention whore here and I am kind of at fault for doing so but I feel like there is some intelligence left in you and I know that if you exert a phenomenal amount of self control you can be a welcomed member on the debate table.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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ZenMaster said:
It amuses me that you hold your self in such high regards to think that you are receiving ridicule because of your pioneer, new era way of thinking, and thus becoming a self-glorified martyr.

It is truly because of your ludicris philosophy on all political fronts including economy, welfare, and foreign policy, and also the way you present them and the way you handle opposition to your ideology.

I have worthy real-life liberal opponents and are ironically some of my closest friends. Now I will admit they are quite as liberal'd as you, mainly because they aren't psycho. However, I love a good debate, but you are keen on achieving victory through insults. You criticize Bush on totally irrelevant and arbitral conspiracies and not argue his plans and bills he has tried to pass through Congress. I would like to see more of this, besides blaming him for everything you can possible imagine on a daily basis, come here and dispute, civilly, what he has passed through Congress, or attempted to.

Now I know I'm kind of giving attention to basically a temper tantrum from an attention whore here and I am kind of at fault for doing so but I feel like there is some intelligence left in you and I know that if you exert a phenomenal amount of self control you can be a welcomed member on the debate table.
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When it comes to Bush, there is no debate. His moronic presidency has set this country back 50 years. It is so obvious to anyone with two braincells that a debate would be infantile. No matter what he passes or tries to pass, the damage has been done and there is no reversing it untill the next presidential cycle. Bush is definently a closed case for me. Fuck Bush and his whole cabinet, criminals all.
 
AlphaNoN

AlphaNoN

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It's my personal belief (possibly a more unpopular view than your own) that it's the Right/Left mindset that will be the downfall of America.. Republican, Democrat, red, blue, it's all the same elitist bullshit. The ruling class is no longer in sync with the pulse of the nation. Until we stop buying into all this propagandist bullshit we will continue to be ruled from on high..
 
panhead

panhead

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AlphaNoN said:
It's my personal belief (possibly a more unpopular view than your own) that it's the Right/Left mindset that will be the downfall of America.. Republican, Democrat, red, blue, it's all the same elitist bullshit. The ruling class is no longer in sync with the pulse of the nation. Until we stop buying into all this propagandist bullshit we will continue to be ruled from on high..
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Ditto on that shit & plus rep,fuck both parties,the current political process is a proven failure,the whole Democrat Republican deal is a rotten conspiricy.
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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AlphaNoN said:
It's my personal belief (possibly a more unpopular view than your own) that it's the Right/Left mindset that will be the downfall of America.. Republican, Democrat, red, blue, it's all the same elitist bullshit. The ruling class is no longer in sync with the pulse of the nation. Until we stop buying into all this propagandist bullshit we will continue to be ruled from on high..
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panhead said:
Ditto on that shit & plus rep,fuck both parties,the current political process is a proven failure,the whole Democrat Republican deal is a rotten conspiricy.
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i like the way you guys think... + rep to both of you :D

the only problem is getting change to happen.. how are the people going to start the "peoples union"?

do you guys think we need a revolution or do you think we need obama, mccain, or clinton in office? :lol: hehe
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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You exhibit the debate skills of a dull 7th grader. You are petulant and insulting. Your passive-aggressive demeanor is extremely hostile. No wonder we react to your endless drivel with derision.

You are not disliked because you are on the left. You are disliked because you are a colossal boor.
 
AlphaNoN

AlphaNoN

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We TaRdED said:
i like the way you guys think... + rep to both of you :D

the only problem is getting change to happen.. how are the people going to start the "peoples union"?

do you guys think we need a revolution or do you think we need obama, mccain, or clinton in office? :lol: hehe
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Thanks brother, I don't think we need to push a socialist agenda just yet lol. The constitutional republic could have a bright future, we just need to get rid of the corruption at it's core, though it may just take a revolution to do it. It certainly won't come about until middle class America gets pushed out of it's comfort zone. We're just too complicit at this point.

I imagine that Obama will take the presidency, it will probably be an uneventful 4 years, he'll get the economy back on track, use an emotional event to outlaw some guns, etc. There'll be a terrorist incident nearing the next election and we'll elect another neo-con that knows how to play on the publics fear into office. And the cycle will continue as such until the union is reduced to a police/nanny state where the eyes of big brother watch us all...

I won't vote for any of the aforementioned candidates, I might vote for Paul, but I refuse to delude myself with fantasies that he'll fix everything. Even if he were to actually beat the odds and became president, he'd never overcome his opposition in congress.
 
mockingbird131313

mockingbird131313

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medicineman said:
It seems that I hold an unpopular position on this forum. Who knew I was entering a den of right wing zealots. You who know who you are, take your best shot, I'm not as bulletproof as I once was, but most of your bullshit still bounces off. I will rejoice when all you wingers have to eat a giant bowl of shit on inauguration day when a black man takes the helm. My god that will be Hillarious (Pun intended). Maybe he can bring back some sense to this country as it has gone way past nonsense. The right would have us in war with half the globe as if kicking ass were going to make people like us. If this country doesn't turn the corner with this warmongering this Presidential cycle, we are fucking Doomed, yes with a capital "D". So even you idiots right of Richard Perle ought to wake the fuck up and see this is our last chance to be a participating democracy, either that or Sig-Heil motherfuckers!
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Dear medicineman,
Compared to me, Rush Limbaugh is a liberal. But, I agree with your point that war without purpose is paving the path to Hell. I think it would be in everyone's best interest to stop name calling and support the next President, if that person moves us toward a policy of nationalism and away from failed policies of internationalism. World-wide meddling has gotten us into this wringer. If we can find proof-positive of international terrorism toward the USA, we should go after them and blow their asses up. And then come home.

Foreign policy IS really rather simple.
 
W

Wordz

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Johnnyorganic said:
You exhibit the debate skills of a dull 7th grader. You are petulant and insulting. Your passive-aggressive demeanor is extremely hostile. No wonder we react to your endless drivel with derision.

You are not disliked because you are on the left. You are disliked because you are a colossal boor.
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buh urn ..... If I was med man I would be laughing my ass off at that.
 
K

kronicsmurf

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I don't really see a way out of this mess i think we are pretty much doomed its only a matter of time. no politician is going to do the right thing. its just not in the nature of a politician to promote peace. they are the worst scum bags that ever set foot on earth(Ron Paul excluded) and they can't see the real picture because of the dollar signs in their eyes$$$$$$
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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AlphaNoN said:
Thanks brother, I don't think we need to push a socialist agenda just yet lol. The constitutional republic could have a bright future, we just need to get rid of the corruption at it's core, though it may just take a revolution to do it. It certainly won't come about until middle class America gets pushed out of it's comfort zone. We're just too complicit at this point.

I imagine that Obama will take the presidency, it will probably be an uneventful 4 years, he'll get the economy back on track, use an emotional event to outlaw some guns, etc. There'll be a terrorist incident nearing the next election and we'll elect another neo-con that knows how to play on the publics fear into office. And the cycle will continue as such until the union is reduced to a police/nanny state where the eyes of big brother watch us all...

I won't vote for any of the aforementioned candidates, I might vote for Paul, but I refuse to delude myself with fantasies that he'll fix everything. Even if he were to actually beat the odds and became president, he'd never overcome his opposition in congress.
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right i hear ya man...

Bush passed a bill where the president has dictator abilities. so if RON PAUL got into office maybe he would switch some key things around for us without objection, lol...

regardless of what RON PAUL would or would not do, im 100% certain that he has the best intentions for the country/world... JMHO



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Dankdude

Dankdude

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mockingbird131313 said:
Dear medicineman,
Compared to me, Rush Limbaugh is a liberal. But, I agree with your point that war without purpose is paving the path to Hell. I think it would be in everyone's best interest to stop name calling and support the next President, if that person moves us toward a policy of nationalism and away from failed policies of internationalism. World-wide meddling has gotten us into this wringer. If we can find proof-positive of international terrorism toward the USA, we should go after them and blow their asses up. And then come home.

Foreign policy IS really rather simple.
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So you would be the worlds bully then.
 
AlphaNoN

AlphaNoN

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We TaRdED said:
right i hear ya man...

Bush passed a bill where the president has dictator abilities. so if RON PAUL got into office maybe he would switch some key things around for us without objection, lol...

regardless of what RON PAUL would or would not do, im 100% certain that he has the best intentions for the country/world... JMHO
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Hopefully the first thing Paul would do in office is get rid of those signing statements (bills are passed by congress, presidential directives are not) that Bush created to increase the executive branches despotic powers. Using them would be unbecoming to a president running on a platform of change.

What congress needs is an civilian oversight committee, that is elected by a true popular vote, with one year, one term, limitations. That way it would be nearly impossible for them to be bought out.

I agree that Paul has good intentions, and his voting record shows that he is a man of action and conviction. He would make a fine president, and certainly the best choice of the available candidates. He has consistently endorsed freedom of speech and individual choice so long as it doesn't harm another person or infringe on their civil liberties.

I do fear (possibly unreasonably, idk..) that his religiosity may interfere with some issues.. but I suppose that could be said of any of the candidates. Sometimes I wish we really did have separation of church and state.. not just the illusion of it..
 
mockingbird131313

mockingbird131313

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Dankdude said:
So you would be the worlds bully then.
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Ah, you are way off. Read again. I said if attacked, go after the killers and then come home. How do you read bully into that? It is a states soverign right and responcibility to protect it's citizens. That is NOT being a bully, unless you have a very tainted sense of judgement.

We have two past failed policies to consider: The Clinton policy of hand wringing and blowing up asperin factories. Or the Bush plan to go out, kill everything, smile, rebuild everything, and then say "let's be friends".

We need to learn some lessons from the past 15 years of bad times in America.
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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mockingbird131313 said:
We need to learn some lessons from the past 15 years of bad times in America.
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i wouldnt stop at just 15 years... lmao... sad but true, every empire wants to expand its domain to no end. one world gov't is a scary thing because there would be no checks and balances.

everyone would be implanted with a Vchip, otherwise who knows what the repercussions would be. maybe they wouldn't allow a family to have more than one baby at a time. my point is that a one world gov't will be the downfall to an individuals liberties. i bet democracy would be out the window and communism would be implemented.
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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AlphaNoN said:
It's my personal belief (possibly a more unpopular view than your own) that it's the Right/Left mindset that will be the downfall of America.. Republican, Democrat, red, blue, it's all the same elitist bullshit. The ruling class is no longer in sync with the pulse of the nation. Until we stop buying into all this propagandist bullshit we will continue to be ruled from on high..
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THANK YOU! Two legs of the same beast, I've been sayin' it for YEARS. Will no one listen? Some already know.

Med, honestly, do you really care whether or not the internet personalities like you?
 
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