go big or go home

Ok here is my problems with your post, I am laughing at that ONE specific post where LoudBlunts posted cosign, now onto business, I am not trying to portray myself as someone who knows everything, but I know enough to know that a first time grower without MAJOR help is trying to do something about as possible as surviving 4000 feet below the ocean in a diving suit. I am not neccassarily laughing at him, but more at the idea of him saying he wanted to do that. I do not blame anyone for wanting to do something like that, but from saying you are going to, is just silly, we all know, he will fail, unless he is helped, and your second quote proved me right.

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The Colorado Life Zones or Transition Garden depicts five of the major bioregions in Colorado. This garden was planted with the support of the Broadmoor Garden Club and the Colorado Tree Coalition and includes signage that asks “Where did all the trees go?” From left to right, the hillside progresses from grasslands to Alpine Tundra. In Colorado, the Grasslands are classified as the ecosystems generally found under 6,000 feet in elevation, while the Shrublands are 6,000 to 8,000 feet, the Montane Forest from 8,000 to 10,000 feet, the Subalpine Forest from 10,000 to 11,400 feet, and the Alpine region above 11,400 feet

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See, that half a sentence proved me completely right my friend. Those two organizations are upwards of 6-8 THOUSAND people EACH! I am not trying to tell the guy to NEVER try it, but more so, telling him to try it when he is more experienced, and as for you, if you don't like me trying to give him advice, and think I am portaying myself as someone who thinks they know it all, I am sorry, I am just trying to be realistic here.

He can plant a 100 weeds at 11,000 feet if he wants to.
Lets be honest if he plants them at this height the chances of discovery are minimal.
He can plant and then come back at harvest time and see what hes got.
Or he can go there often and tend to them,thats his choice.
Your laughing and saying his idea is stupid and dangerous,i dont agree.
He said hes going to do it anyway so i will try to give him the best advice i can in that vain.

I happen to agree you with in principal that he would be better of growing indoors,but he said hes going to do it anyway.
My post wasn't aimed entirely at you either.
It is perfectly possible to grow plants that are acclimatized to high altitudes at 11,000 feet.

If you want a decent yield from weed though at that height you will need to find a way to oxygenate the soil a lot more as the air is thin at that height or you wont get much more than 50 grams per plant.
The best pot in the world originated in the Himalaya's.

Hes talking about sowing a 100 weed plants in a small area not a 10,000 square foot plantation of varying plants that are difficult to grow.
In my experience weed will grow in a bit of shit on a roadside.
It wont grow well but it will grow.
Its a weed

Ahh ok ok, I agree bro, although, my personal opinion, it isn't a good idea, because if he doesn't get caught (even if they are minimal, that is enough reason for me to not grow 100 plants) He will have barely (if any) yields from it, unless he will be living right next to the "plantation". And Nat, sorry about some of the previous post because i was mistaken and took your post as directed completely at me.

Since you are obviously going to try this anyway though, I will try and help. Your best bet will be indoors but since you are stuck on outdoors, you may want to till the soil then empty a few bags of perilite or a similar to it all over the tilled area, then till it again so that is mixed and allows better air circulation, they will need it due to the lack of o2 at that kind of altitude. Due to that altitude, you may want to have some kind of quick shelter to pull up, the rains up there can easily be turned to snow or be cold enough to kill a plant. So until they are mature, some kind of shelter should be considered. I will give more when I can think of it... =P

tokensmoke said:

Ahh ok ok, I agree bro, although, my personal opinion, it isn't a good idea, because if he doesn't get caught (even if they are minimal, that is enough reason for me to not grow 100 plants) He will have barely (if any) yields from it, unless he will be living right next to the "plantation". And Nat, sorry about some of the previous post because i was mistaken and took your post as directed completely at me.

Since you are obviously going to try this anyway though, I will try and help. Your best bet will be indoors but since you are stuck on outdoors, you may want to till the soil then empty a few bags of perilite or a similar to it all over the tilled area, then till it again so that is mixed and allows better air circulation, they will need it due to the lack of o2 at that kind of altitude. Due to that altitude, you may want to have some kind of quick shelter to pull up, the rains up there can easily be turned to snow or be cold enough to kill a plant. So until they are mature, some kind of shelter should be considered. I will give more when I can think of it... =P

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No worries

Well thank you all for the advice, I do appreciate it. I am still planning on trying. I am looking at mountain mist or swiss mist, hollands hope or a pure afghani stain, I think my best bets are the mountain strains, or early mist or early girl. I like the idea of the Afghani too because it is a natural strain and has survived for thousands of years in the even higher afghani mountains with out all the human attention. The area is so secluded that I am not worried about it being found and even if seen, I do not plan on leaving evidence that will lead it back to me. It is a hour and a half drive from my house and a several hour hike to the site, the last part of the hike is up a steep as hell mountain and there is no trail, at the top is a little lake/pond and it is basically a bowl created by the mountains. because it is so hard to get to I am planning on visiting only about 5-6 times during the grow and staying 4 days per visit to work. the mountain strains and the early strains say they are ready to harvest early to mid september and the weather is still fine then even at that altitude. But many of you are right, I am basically going to plant and let it take care of its self to a large extent. And I understand that I wont have plants that have 600 grams of bud on them. But then again the soil may be so rich it might. I have been to the are once and it is rough, but I google earthed it and during the summer months it is the greenest spot I can find it is green green green! But now you have me worried about the oxegen problem and I have no idea how to get more to them. well keep the help coming.,

ohh one more question, does any body have any expirence with amsterdam-seed.nl as a seed bank? or can anyone suggest a seed bank that has the strains im looking for. The mountain stains from the Himalayans?

i say go small or go home......hmm or is it go home or try small. let me smoke a j and think, oh well i am high so i say go home and eat some oreos and lay on the couch......thats my motto. best of luck to ya friend.

well i think i might have just killed my own hopes, i called the ranger station for the general area of the [ark i was looking at growing in, and the snow isn't even out of there till June and as far as I know that doesn't leave me with enough time for growing. unless of course I start them at home, keep keep them about two months but then I can' pack them in.....well maybe I'll grow them in the middle of no-where desert south of my house or in the lower foot hills..

come hell or high water though I am planting a large crop. how else am i supposed to pay for law school? 700-800 a credit hour is outrageous

Oh shit bro, you better have a back up for that cash then. IRS will crawl up your ass with a magnifying scope. And if that is how much it costs... FIND A DIFFERENT LAW SCHOOL, but.... if you are dead set on that school, I have to tell you, 100 plants is over kill if you get good yeilds, seriously, go indoors like a large shed or something, with about 50-75 plants, you'll get great yeilds and that will be plenty to cover it if you sell it right.

redking11 said:

come hell or high water though I am planting a large crop. how else am i supposed to pay for law school? 700-800 a credit hour is outrageous

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just one more thought, if you get popped with that many plants, i would think that would put a huge damper on your legal career aspirations.

man you want 100 and im sweating 10 for my first grow. its hard work and i hope you can pull it off.


~dude

I know a newb grower that thought he would just learn as his plants grew. His stuff looks pretty good, but theyre nowhere near the quality of someone that knows what theyre doing. I say start off small and after a few harvests you'll know a pot plant well enough to think big. BTW I came here from another board, you guys seem cooler. Glad 2 be here

Agree with everything here.
This place is the coolest.

allovher said:

I know a newb grower that thought he would just learn as his plants grew. His stuff looks pretty good, but theyre nowhere near the quality of someone that knows what theyre doing. I say start off small and after a few harvests you'll know a pot plant well enough to think big. BTW I came here from another board, you guys seem cooler. Glad 2 be here

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natmoon said:

He can plant a 100 weeds at 11,000 feet if he wants to.
Lets be honest if he plants them at this height the chances of discovery are minimal.
He can plant and then come back at harvest time and see what hes got.
Or he can go there often and tend to them,thats his choice.
Your laughing and saying his idea is stupid and dangerous,i dont agree.
He said hes going to do it anyway so i will try to give him the best advice i can in that vain.

I happen to agree you with in principal that he would be better of growing indoors,but he said hes going to do it anyway.
My post wasn't aimed entirely at you either.
It is perfectly possible to grow plants that are acclimatized to high altitudes at 11,000 feet.

If you want a decent yield from weed though at that height you will need to find a way to oxygenate the soil a lot more as the air is thin at that height or you wont get much more than 50 grams per plant.
The best pot in the world originated in the Himalaya's.

Hes talking about sowing a 100 weed plants in a small area not a 10,000 square foot plantation of varying plants that are difficult to grow.
In my experience weed will grow in a bit of shit on a roadside.
It wont grow well but it will grow.
Its a weed

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Himalayan weed. true. good point. I don't have any idea about alttitudes, what not but I do have to give the guy a lot of credit for being persistent in his idea to find out more info etc
He might wanna tone down his expectations but I wouldn't give up on it. You always learn form experience.

Lacy said:

Himalayan weed. true. good point. I don't have any idea about alttitudes, what not but I do have to give the guy a lot of credit for being persistent in his idea to find out more info etc
He might wanna tone down his expectations but I wouldn't give up on it. You always learn form experience.

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Yeah he just needs to use a strain that will acclimatize easily.
One that originated in a cold high altitude in the first place will adapt easily.
Not much good trying to grow a desert indica at that height.
I also agree that he would be much better off doing this indoors but he insists that he will do it anyway so i just gave him my best advice

good luck man. i plan on growin 5-10, and im sketchy as fuck already. (not startin til may / !!!)
but if u get caught up with too much to handle go ahead and PM me. ill have an idea for u. dead serious.

personally i wouldnt worry about it too much. check to see if c.a.m.p. helicopters fly by your area and walk a good distance in all directions from your spot to double check that there aren't any nearby hikers/birdwatcher trails. btw r u growing them all in one spot because that won't be a good idea. I'd say at least spots of max 25 to 30 plants with good camouflage. i used to grow guerrilla style right next to a river up near eukaya and i would get the river water and mix it with a drop of nutr.s and feed it to some of the surrounding wild plants. i would also transplant some wild plants near to my weed plants to help camouflage. finally, i would pull some plants (both wild and weed)just to make even less suspicious. its not too hard, just dont get lazy half way and dont leave anything that can be traced back to you (finger tips especially). are you doing this by yourself? and maybe you could send some pictures.

Welcome to the forum I am new here too! Everyone here is really nice and very helpful!