Global Warming or Over Population - Earths Biggest Threat?

see4

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If you dont understand the difference about giving someone shit about a pay stub and giving someone shit about their dead kids then you are the one with the problem, not the forum.

I dont usually ignore users but since you have added absolutely 0 to this forum since you joined, you wont be missed.
Of course I know the difference. However, you are missing the point, like your dim-witted friend beennowhere. And it only goes to show your narrow minded attitude. You chose to believe Red, at his word, but not UB's. Simple as that. I just showed that here. If Red really had children and they really did die in a fire, I am honestly very sorry for dragging them into my point. And I feel terrible. However, just as you and beennowhere and others are so quick to do, I do not believe his story.

See how that works? No. You don't. You're too fucking stupid.

 

Doer

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Was it this thread where the subject of space elevators and "black men smarter than Netwon" came up?

Here's a vid that combines both...POW!

[video=youtube;vktd3-MKh-U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vktd3-MKh-U[/video]


No mention of EM forces, but the wind sure is giving those prize seekers a rough time...
About Nanotubes. A millimeter is not a mile. :) And the tensile strength properties of combining fragments of tubes are not known. But, science is funny that way. There are plenty of events in Material Science that became the God Hammer, break throughs, we love the most.

Nylon. Carbon fiber. PostIT Notes. Superconductive Ceramics.... Someone today, could get that, 1 single tube, cooking just right, and be able to announce centimeter strands. It just take that one Ah HA! And that is how you get your name on a new material.

Or, they can call it..... Doerite....I like that.
 

burgertime2010

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Well, as most of us know carbon dioxide is used by plants and converted into breathable o2. We are increasing co2 output while deforestation takes the metabolic channels away. Both are moving rapidly away from each other, decreasing 02 and increasing co2 is a problem. The oceans produce O2 in the tropical reefs more than anywhere else. The delicate system is dying because the oceans are warming, the ice is melting which reflects solar radiation and cools the planet. The earth is warming, the reefs are dying, there is a storm brewing on multiple fronts.
 

burgertime2010

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Poppycock.
I'm sorry but this is all happening. I have no agenda just a list of things that are happening. You can feel how you want, but look at the data behind each of these facts, see that they are real and put the multiplier or whatever and then say poppycock.
 

burgertime2010

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Yea. Got pretty quiet up in here once I brought out the truth card huh?

So you either believe him and therefore I'm the asshole, which means you take people for their word, which means you guys are being the assholes trying to call out UB and myself.

Or you don't know for sure if he is being honest, in which case, am I being an asshole if it isn't true, and he is drawing the sympathy card?
The hardest thing about fiction is it has to be believable -Mark Twain
 

Doer

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Well, as most of us know carbon dioxide is used by plants and converted into breathable o2. We are increasing co2 output while deforestation takes the metabolic channels away. Both are moving rapidly away from each other, decreasing 02 and increasing co2 is a problem. The oceans produce O2 in the tropical reefs more than anywhere else. The delicate system is dying because the oceans are warming, the ice is melting which reflects solar radiation and cools the planet. The earth is warming, the reefs are dying, there is a storm brewing on multiple fronts.
100% bullshit, then. In short you have no idea what you are talking about, so "poppycock" is best, I think. You believe in Saganism. I do not.

The land O2 production exceeds the oceans. And not the reefs but the free floating phytoplanton gives off 02 as it has done and continues since the Great Oxygenation Event.
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Table 2: Annual gain and loss of atmospheric oxygen (Units of 10[SUP]10[/SUP] kg O[SUB]2[/SUB] per year)

Photosynthesis (land)
Photosynthesis (ocean)
Photolysis of N[SUB]2[/SUB]O
Photolysis of H[SUB]2[/SUB]O
16,500
13,500
1.3
0.03
Total Gains~ 30,000
Losses - Respiration and Decay
Aerobic Respiration
Microbial Oxidation
Combustion of Fossil Fuel (anthropogenic)
Photochemical Oxidation
Fixation of N[SUB]2[/SUB] by Lightning
Fixation of N[SUB]2[/SUB] by Industry (anthropogenic)
Oxidation of Volcanic Gases
23,000
5,100
1,200
600
12
10
5
Losses - Weathering
Chemical Weathering
Surface Reaction of O[SUB]3[/SUB]
50
12
Total Losses~ 30,000

You act like we are running out of O2 and should not tell those lies, imo.
 

burgertime2010

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100% bullshit, then. In short you have no idea what you are talking about, so "poppycock" is best, I think. You believe in Saganism. I do not.

The land O2 production exceeds the oceans. And not the reefs but the free floating phytoplanton gives off 02 as it has done and continues since the Great Oxygenation Event.
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Table 2: Annual gain and loss of atmospheric oxygen (Units of 10[SUP]10[/SUP] kg O[SUB]2[/SUB] per year)

Photosynthesis (land)
Photosynthesis (ocean)
Photolysis of N[SUB]2[/SUB]O
Photolysis of H[SUB]2[/SUB]O
16,500
13,500
1.3
0.03
Total Gains
~ 30,000
Losses - Respiration and Decay
Aerobic Respiration
Microbial Oxidation
Combustion of Fossil Fuel (anthropogenic)
Photochemical Oxidation
Fixation of N[SUB]2[/SUB] by Lightning
Fixation of N[SUB]2[/SUB] by Industry (anthropogenic)
Oxidation of Volcanic Gases
23,000
5,100
1,200
600
12
10
5
Losses - Weathering
Chemical Weathering
Surface Reaction of O[SUB]3[/SUB]
50
12
Total Losses
~ 30,000

You act like we are running out of O2 and should not tell those lies, imo.
chill out, and in English what part of this am I missing. How are we not affecting the O2 supply. Just telling me I am lying and showing me a chart does not change any of the factors I mentioned. Lets talk about each of the factors one by one then. I am not preaching really, this is the first mention of O2 levels in this thread....I thought it might be worth a mention.
 

PetFlora

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Neither.

Eliminate the power structure at the top (both govt and oil cartels) so we can get on with free (clean/nonpolluting) energy + return farming to organic/non-GMO, which means getting rid of Monsanto's power structure, eliminate the power structure behind chemtrails, and you ill virtually eliminate any contribution they are making as well as lieing about to increase taxes, further controlling the WW population

EDIT: Forgot to mention GW is a ruse. Our entire solar system is heating up due to increased vibratory rate, which will drive the controllers away as they cannot handle the increased vibration
 

Doer

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The land based and ocean based production of 02 is slowing right?
No. It is a balance. The 10[SUP]10[/SUP] kg O[SUB]2[/SUB] per year in verses 10[SUP]10[/SUP] kg O[SUB]2[/SUB] per year out are both about 30,000.

And notice the Lithosphere. 95% of all O2 is right there beneath our feet. We have processes that can unleash as much O2 as we will ever need.

So, what is real is the Gia system, not that it is an intelligent being perhaps. But, if it is, it needs us, ergo sum. Still the system is real and dwarfs our imagination.

Somehow the scales were tipped to favor aerobic life. And who knows, maybe another anaerobic cycle will take place, some day.

And there will be a lot of stupid monkeys that die blaming the other monkeys for it. It is just what us Ego Monkeys do.
 

Doer

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Neither.

Eliminate the power structure at the top (both govt and oil cartels) so we can get on with free (clean/nonpolluting) energy + return farming to organic/non-GMO, which means getting rid of Monsanto's power structure, eliminate the power structure behind chemtrails, and you ill virtually eliminate any contribution they are making as well as lieing about to increase taxes, further controlling the WW population
Poppycock.
 

see4

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I am on board with putting energy control back to the people. We do that by releasing ourselves from the breast of big oil.
 

burgertime2010

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No. It is a balance. The 10[SUP]10[/SUP] kg O[SUB]2[/SUB] per year in verses 10[SUP]10[/SUP] kg O[SUB]2[/SUB] per year out are both about 30,000.

And notice the Lithosphere. 95% of all O2 is right there beneath our feet. We have processes that can unleash as much O2 as we will ever need.

So, what is real is the Gia system, not that it is an intelligent being perhaps. But, if it is, it needs us, ergo sum. Still the system is real and dwarfs our imagination.

Somehow the scales were tipped to favor aerobic life. And who knows, maybe another anaerobic cycle will take place, some day.

And there will be a lot of stupid monkeys that die blaming the other monkeys for it. It is just what us Ego Monkeys do.
Do we need plants for o2 at all? is the balance a human responsibility? will this be an industry? FYI I am trying to learn, nothing else.
 

schuylaar

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Of course I know the difference. However, you are missing the point, like your dim-witted friend beennowhere. And it only goes to show your narrow minded attitude. You chose to believe Red, at his word, but not UB's. Simple as that. I just showed that here. If Red really had children and they really did die in a fire, I am honestly very sorry for dragging them into my point. And I feel terrible. However, just as you and beennowhere and others are so quick to do, I do not believe his story.

See how that works? No. You don't. You're too fucking stupid.

You know I felt sorry for red and thought UB was being a dick to him but I saw something in red which leads me to believe where there's smoke there's red..I mean fire:fire:
 

churchhaze

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O2 makes up about 21% of the atmosphere. By contrast, CO2 makes up about 0.035%.

Even if the level of CO2 were to quadruple, the change in O2 would be negligible. %O2 would still be around 21%.

The land based and ocean based production of 02 is slowing right? The earth is losing bio-matter in plant form and increasing bio-mass in animal form. Right? Demand for o2 is increasing?
 
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