GFCI Wires burnt

KronikGrower

Active Member
O.K. so I have all my eqquipment into a GFCI outlet that popped this morning.....unplugged everything ( two power strips ) and the gfci resets. when you plug anything in it pops again.....Well I took the cover off and pulled the GFCI out......:!::!:on the "LINE" side the hot and neutral wires are burnt:fire::-( the twist connector were completley melted off. what could have caused this? whats the best way to fix? the wires burnt about three inches back into the box....not enough slack to pull out to new wire. any advice much needed???? thanks
 

Dirty Harry

Well-Known Member
Sounds like your pulling too much current for the size of wire. When that happens, they can heat up and actually turn into what looks like a toaster heating element and catch fire.
 
What type of breaker panel do you have? Federal Pacific by chance? Your breaker should of tripped before the wire fried unless it is on the wrong size breaker. It sounds like you have a fire waiting to happen. DO NOT USE THIS CIRCUIT UNTIL YOU FIND THE PROBLEM AND REPLACE THE ENTIRE CABLE. YOU LIFE MAY DEPEND ON IT.
 

KronikGrower

Active Member
Sounds like your pulling too much current for the size of wire. When that happens, they can heat up and actually turn into what looks like a toaster heating element and catch fire.
So wouldn't that have popped the circuit breaker it's self? i'm on a 20 amp circuit.....
 

KronikGrower

Active Member
It was all exsiting wiring...pretty sure it's 12ga dont quote me though the GFCI itself was old...could I replace the GFCI, lighten the load and be good? or maybe daisy chain another outlet? but I still can't see why the breaker didn't flip. Things had been up and running for a few months straight no changes to anything. I'm running a 600w hps electronic ballast on 12/12, 16" wall mount fan on 24/7, CAP Air 4 controller, 6,500 btu wall mount a/c on 24/7, 240 cfm fan and carbon filter 24/7, 2x32 watts ea. dual bulb T8s on 24/7 and a 9 inch box fan......Doesn't seem like too much for the circuit it's on?
 

Sir.Ganga

New Member
Home construction uses 14/3 wire for most household applications. Its sounds like your running 14/3 wire on a 20 amp breaker. This would cause the situation you speak of. A 20 amp breaker is recommended for 12/3 wirring. If your not sure about your wire I would change that breaker back to a 15 amp and try to plug some equipement elsewhere, just to be safe.
 

KronikGrower

Active Member
[h=3]Capacity Chart[/h]This chart is a simple "max capacity" chart for a short wire run. Increase the wire size for long runs - for example the wires running to the back of a vehicle to power the taillights may need to be one size larger to account for the length.
Gauge110V12V
225A5A
207.5A8A
1810A10A
1613A20A
1417A40A
1223A60A
1033A100A
846A150A
660A??A
480A??A
2100A??A
1125A??A
0150A??A
 
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