Getting the most out of MG seeds?

high|hgih

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On a whim, I bought 3000 untreated seeds because why not? $5..

Anyways I have read various teks on making different compositions of LSA and would like to know the most effective, easy and stable way to do so. Whenever I find or am suggested a good one, I will post the procedure on this thread to help people wanting to know the same thing.

I have had a couple sessions with LSA experimentation and have had mind blowing results a couple times. Mainly when I just mix 1-4k grinded seeds with distilled water and drink the nauseating brew until I can't see anymore.
I feel an extraction would allow me to dive into this more effectively. I know I could just do a few iso washes and have something to work with, but a change in the structure of the molecule could be better for whatever reasons.
I'd just like to know a way to get a 'journey' out of these. Lately I've been reading a lot of things about shamanic plants and the journeys that they provide and feel ready and eager for such an experience. I've even been practicing introspectively to prepare. Mainly for an Ayahuasca brew a couple months coming up.

So how do you make these things work the best? :3 I actually like doing the water/grind mix. But it hurts very bad. I've never 'met' anything in that void either. Seems to be a wall of opaque psychedelic patterning that puts me in a trance, unable to move or make out the bathroom the next morning.

Also would it be a good idea to(in my original brew) add some peppermint oil extract and lemon juice into it, or just add lemon juice and pop one of my peppermint oil extract pills? (IBS:finger:)
And what exactly is the function of the peppermint? I may have figured it out before this gets a reply, but I'm feeling exhausted.
 

DankDru

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i ran 3 or 4 thousand through some iso and scraped up on a baking dish. it turned a gold powder and i just dabbed it with my finger and ate it. Worked pretty well!
 

qwizoking

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crush em, blast em with butane like you would bho, toss that and then run the seeds in iso..
peppermint is a waste imo. too unstable
 
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qwizoking

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hydrolyze amide to amine, react with aldehyde.
the peppermint extract should be added to the subsequent lysergamine, not your belly though I don't doubt that this would be somewhat effective. but the product again is incredibly unstable, I mean most of what you actually produce will be destroyed on contact with your belly juices
 

high|hgih

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Never done anything with butane.. So I'm gonna have to do some reading. Ended up just drinking tea for a few days and going on walks.

Next time I'm gonna get a simple iso extraction down, although.. Is the butane to get rid of the nausea inducing agents? Then washed with iso to get a more solid yield?

Dank, how bad was the nausea from your extract?
and qwiz, you've experimented with these and had good results? There's only a handful of times where I've 'blown my mind apart'. And those times I was very drunk or on xanax. Apparently I can't get the plant matter down as effectively since I stopped drinking and being barred out as much.
Smoking didn't even help xD Even if I did blow my mind, I would've been in an incredible amount of pain, rendering it un-enjoyable more than likely.

I'm trying to do theraputic 'sessions' with easily obtainable psychedelics. Next time a buddy has some mushrooms, I plan on eating 3.5 grams one night(3.5 grams to me is a lot. Last time I ate a full eighth, I got lost in my brain and heard these impeding noises that sound like angels getting processed through a godly,psychedelic piece of machinery. Not the first time. Coolest noise ever, I want to become more familiar with that so I can replicate it into music.) anyways, I have eaten large dosages before, but it scares the shit out of me and I used to tend to fight it. Until I learned. I veered away from large dosages for the longest time after ingesting 10 grams.
Something happened though over the past year or so, now I seem find it down-right interesting. And I feel as if it's time to stop only, loosely using them as tools for introspection, and using them for the soul purpose of self exploration.

I plan on working my way up by doing a session once every month in my bed. With mushrooms, I must work my way up. An eighth the first time, then when I'm ready again, 5 grams or so. Then up to seven, and possibly up to ten. Although I do feel like I have a certain sensitivity to most psychedelics. In comparison, I seem to have a lot more of an effect from even the tiniest dosages than anyone else I know that is interested in these things. I feel as if 7 grams would do the same as 10.

I could find LSD, but it's only ever liquid for the passed while and it's very weak. I'd rather not waste my money. What happened to all the paper? Guess I don't go out as much as I used to.

Back to morning glory.
I would love to do a session with LSA, if I could get it in a more easily consumable form. Especially because of the gentleness aspect of the trip. It'd be good preparation (and a good 'snack') over the near future when I plan to do my journeys. I'm going to do some research on heroic dosages of this, I'm pretty sure I haven't even done that yet!
 

high|hgih

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Ultimately, ayahuasca is the journey I am in pursuit of. But I feel unworthy. I have done a lot of immoral things in the past while (not recently after an existential crisis basically, don't know what else to call what that was.) and I know that it's all just going to punch me right in my face and possibly alter the experience in a way that I don't want it to. Of course.. Maybe it should.

However, I have been doing nothing but good deeds, meditating daily, (sort of) detoxing... Living a pretty routine life that I am comfortable with, but it is getting repetitious and lacking of purpose the longer it goes. I want to explore on the inside for awhile. I have two years until I fly to Denmark and travel through Europe. I'll probably end up living in Denmark with the way things are looking. But in this sort of.. Purgatory I am in, I'd like to be constructive with it. And have it be as beneficial as possible.

It's almost like I am scared of life changes. Every heroic dose I've ever done(besides 10g), I can hardly recall because of fear initially, resulting in xanax administration beforehand. Or tons of alcohol. Or both.
My only DMT(blastoff) trip was in the midst of a very heavy robotrip. I faintly remember the imagery. But that is all. Plus it was years and years ago.

I need to become more in tune with myself as I feel like there are a lot of things that need to be figured out and solidified within.. Meditation helps.. A lot.. But I still feel incomplete. Like I am not whole.
Psychedelics seem to switch that around really quickly and teach me lessons.

But heroic 'shamanic journeys' are what I am aiming for. Whether it be negative or positive, it will still be equally as constructive. But I'd like to learn how tor un instead of walk before I skydive. If that makes sense.
 

qwizoking

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yea the butane washes all the side effects away really. eye issues, stomach, headache or tightness etc.
the iso extracts the goodies. it's really pretty simple, not like hash.. but I mean I used to just soak in water and chug that peppery earthy nastiness

Yea I experiment alot. I like to be alot higher than most can handle.. what's great is lsa on dxm, then the first couple hits of weed send you over, dxm nicely turning thc to a full agonist will also kill your tolerance though..

have you read my posts on reacting cinnamon essential oil with the lsa?

either way an extraction Is yiur best bet, can put in capsules too..

edit...probably shouldn't say that
 
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Bublonichronic

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Sounds like you need to just give dmt another go...IMO no other substance can even come close to it as far as self/spiritual progression, or whatever..I like to take large rips then meditate and try to be more present in the trip, otherwise it's all just a scrambled mess
 

high|hgih

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Okay, gonna do butane/iso then. Just ordered 3000 more. Would it be wise to eat the entire yield? I haven't read about the cinnamon but I'll do a quick search! Lsa is a good candidate for some experiments :)

Dmt will be given another go, but in the form of ayahuasca. Figure I might as well try it after awhile.
I have been hiking up to the top of this mountain and camping on the top of the largest waterfall in Missouri. No disturbances, the ayahuasca will be done there because it is very safe and I feel more comfortable there while I am tripping than anywhere else.
Ibogaine seems to have potential. Never really looked into it and a week or two ago I read a couple dozen trip reports. I couldn't stop. Those are some of the most interesting readings that I have done in a long time. Every TR was like reading a very good book. The danger of it is worrisome so if I do take the ibogaine, it will be in a controlled setting for good measure. That one is far off though.
 

high|hgih

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Also I am a fan of Dxm, a lot more a few years ago. Don't really do it much anymore but I could imagine that'd be a great combo. I've mixed every drug pretty much with Dxm, I used to binge and binge. My favorite was mushies with it. LSD is great too.. Even as far as heroin. Or speed.. Alcohol.. Dxm is something else man but I can say I will probably do this and do a side extraction of Dxm hbr. I'm familiar with this so it wont be a problem. Just feel like I shouldn't be drinking the syrup any longer. Icky haha

A 00 capsule with a bigger dose of lsa(depending on how small I can get it), and about 600mg of Dxm would be a journey for sure.

How does the lsa come out? I've seen or heard of it being a brown goo
 
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