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Larry {the} Gardener

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Damn, sounds like your Fla. weather is worse than our North Ga. weather. I still have mine in buckets moving them in and out of the house. When indoors I have them under some CFL's but on pretty days I set them under the sun. I got extremely lucky today. A electrician friend of mine has been working on billboards switching them over to LED's and taking down the big lights that shined on them at night so you could see the billboard. Well just by happenstance the spot lights they have been taking down are 400w HPS lights so I got a freebie light and sealed reflector hood. I will have to cut holes in each end to put a fan in it for doing something with the heat. I might be growing a couple plants in my out building to go with my briar patch grow. But I have a question. I have never grown anything indoors so I don't know jack shit about it. The HID setup he's giving me is for a 400w HPS light, can I run a MH light in it also? And because it's a 400w setup do I have to use a 400w light or can I down size the bulb to 150? Like I said all my growing experience is by the help of Mother Nature and her lights are perfect for growing. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Good luck and good growing!!
We were back up to 80F today. I'm thinking the threat of cold is over. Now I just hope I don't get an early flower problem.

I'm an outdoor man too. No help to you in lighting questions. I do start peppers and tomatoes under lights, but those are just the 48" plant and aquarium tubes in shop lights, and a 12 bulb CFL setup in a homemade hood.

You could post a thread over on the indoor section. Those guys know lights coming and going.
 

BUSTALUNG

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We were back up to 80F today. I'm thinking the threat of cold is over. Now I just hope I don't get an early flower problem.

I'm an outdoor man too. No help to you in lighting questions. I do start peppers and tomatoes under lights, but those are just the 48" plant and aquarium tubes in shop lights, and a 12 bulb CFL setup in a homemade hood.

You could post a thread over on the indoor section. Those guys know lights coming and going.
Ah I'll ask my electrician buddy, surely he should know. Sounds like your weather is great. It got to the mid 60's here today. Pretty and sunny this morning then overcast this afternoon and about 5:00 pm the bottom fell out of it and it rained like pouring piss out of a boot for about 3 hours. I wish I could go ahead and set my plants out but I wouldn't dare for about three more weeks. I've never started any as early as I started these. I usually am just starting germinating about now. I wanted to get a couple months head start indoors and then set them out. I had visions of monster plants dancing in my head but I can see now that I really goofed. I'm going to have early flower problem for sure I can see already, mine are starting show sex already and they're a still a long ways from being ready to set out. I've learned a valuable lesson this year fo sho!
 

Larry {the} Gardener

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Ah I'll ask my electrician buddy, surely he should know. Sounds like your weather is great. It got to the mid 60's here today. Pretty and sunny this morning then overcast this afternoon and about 5:00 pm the bottom fell out of it and it rained like pouring piss out of a boot for about 3 hours. I wish I could go ahead and set my plants out but I wouldn't dare for about three more weeks. I've never started any as early as I started these. I usually am just starting germinating about now. I wanted to get a couple months head start indoors and then set them out. I had visions of monster plants dancing in my head but I can see now that I really goofed. I'm going to have early flower problem for sure I can see already, mine are starting show sex already and they're a still a long ways from being ready to set out. I've learned a valuable lesson this year fo sho!
It's been raining here since about 5 o'clock too. I didn't carry water when I transplanted the three plants this morning because of the promised rain. I'm glad it came, but I have sprouts out in it that might be getting drowned.

I think I saw hairs on one of mine today, so looks like I started too early too. But since I'm looking for as many good males as I can find this summer, flowering early won't be the end of the world for me. They will be slowed down, if they do decide to flower early.

But if you can put yours under lights they will come right back into veg. Even if you have them outside during the day, then add a couple hours of lights at sunset. It doesn't have to be all that much light to work.
 

BUSTALUNG

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I sprouted them under CFL's and have been using them on cold and cloudy days when it's to bad to put them out. I'm sure I can bring them out of flowering with the same lights but I can't set them out in the briar patch and use those lights. I guess if buddy comes thru with the hid setup I'll get my first taste of indoor growing, want to or not. I've put to much into them to let them go early. I have more germinating now that I can set out mid April for my usual grow. I'm just excited to get something growing. I wish Ga. would get with the program so I wouldn't have to be so damn stealthy about things. I would love to see what I could do with maximum sunshine out in the open where I could be with my plants daily!
 

Larry {the} Gardener

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I sprouted them under CFL's and have been using them on cold and cloudy days when it's to bad to put them out. I'm sure I can bring them out of flowering with the same lights but I can't set them out in the briar patch and use those lights. I guess if buddy comes thru with the hid setup I'll get my first taste of indoor growing, want to or not. I've put to much into them to let them go early. I have more germinating now that I can set out mid April for my usual grow. I'm just excited to get something growing. I wish Ga. would get with the program so I wouldn't have to be so damn stealthy about things. I would love to see what I could do with maximum sunshine out in the open where I could be with my plants daily!
Even if you do wind up growing indoors, make some clones and stick them out. I know I'm not going to sling tons of weight per plant, so I'm just planning on more plants. I'm trying for as much genetic variation as possible, so I'll be doing very few clones. But if you are limited on number of seeds, cloning is great.
 

BUSTALUNG

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Even if you do wind up growing indoors, make some clones and stick them out. I know I'm not going to sling tons of weight per plant, so I'm just planning on more plants. I'm trying for as much genetic variation as possible, so I'll be doing very few clones. But if you are limited on number of seeds, cloning is great.
have never cloned before. I know all you do is cut a branch off the plant but can you get it to live putting it in just water? I don't have all the rooting solution and stuff I've read about that ppl use when cloning. I've grown lots of weed but always from seeds and outdoors I'm not up to date on the scientific aspects of the sport..lol
 

Larry {the} Gardener

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have never cloned before. I know all you do is cut a branch off the plant but can you get it to live putting it in just water? I don't have all the rooting solution and stuff I've read about that ppl use when cloning. I've grown lots of weed but always from seeds and outdoors I'm not up to date on the scientific aspects of the sport..lol
Last year I used an air bubbler {like you put in a fish tank} in an aluminium baking tray. I had over 60% live without much in the way of climate control. This year I bought a timer, submersible fountain pump, tubing, 3" net cups and a 360 degree sprinkler head to make a 5 gallon bucket cloner. I'm going to practice on tomato plants until I feel like there is a better than even chance I can do it right. And pick up an aloe Vera plant. That is what I used for rooting compound last year. Although I did buy some of the powder stuff this year.

Here is the one I'll be making.

 

BUSTALUNG

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Last year I used an air bubbler {like you put in a fish tank} in an aluminium baking tray. I had over 60% live without much in the way of climate control. This year I bought a timer, submersible fountain pump, tubing, 3" net cups and a 360 degree sprinkler head to make a 5 gallon bucket cloner. I'm going to practice on tomato plants until I feel like there is a better than even chance I can do it right. And pick up an aloe Vera plant. That is what I used for rooting compound last year. Although I did buy some of the powder stuff this year.

Here is the one I'll be making.

I've been thinking about making a bubbler closer out of a 5 gal bucket and a airstone. Only thing different would be the sprayer head. With the bubbler you would have to use more water for the air stone to bubble the waster up on the plant. Right?
 

Larry {the} Gardener

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I've been thinking about making a bubbler closer out of a 5 gal bucket and a airstone. Only thing different would be the sprayer head. With the bubbler you would have to use more water for the air stone to bubble the waster up on the plant. Right?
Yes, with the bubbler the stems need to be in the water. I used Styrofoam coffee cups to put the cuttings in. When the roots got big enough, you just break the cup away from the stem. The plastic storage bins work good. Just paint the clear ones so no light gets on the roots.
 

BUSTALUNG

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Yes, with the bubbler the stems need to be in the water. I used Styrofoam coffee cups to put the cuttings in. When the roots got big enough, you just break the cup away from the stem. The plastic storage bins work good. Just paint the clear ones so no light gets on the roots.
Do the stems have to be submerged? I was thinking that if the water was just high enough for the bubbler to splash water up on the stem. Put the cutting in a net pot with the bottom cut out like in the video you posted and a collar to hold it in place and let the air stone splash the water up on the stem. Would that work you think ?
 

Larry {the} Gardener

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Do the stems have to be submerged? I was thinking that if the water was just high enough for the bubbler to splash water up on the stem. Put the cutting in a net pot with the bottom cut out like in the video you posted and a collar to hold it in place and let the air stone splash the water up on the stem. Would that work you think ?
The airstone doesn't really cause the water to splash. It just puts more 02 into the water. I guess if you got a big enough air pump it might work. But the $10 kind I got at Walmart makes bubbles, but doesn't do much splashing.
 
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