Getting frustrated

GrnGardnr

New Member
Hey all, been growing almost a year now and I'm starting to get frustrated I'm 3 weeks into flower and I'm starting to run into problems ( all my grows start having issues around week 3-6 and Idk why.. Ive been a silent lurker but now I'm just tired of failing) the set up is as follows 400w HP's light 3x3 tent temps steady at 85f during the day with a RH of around 40% ( being in South Florida that's the best I can swing ) soil is an even mix of Coco, ground soil, perlite, black cow manure... Amendments are garden tone, dolomite lime, epsom salt, alaska fish fert about 3 weeks ago I top dressed some sunniland bloom special fert. 2-10-10 so that's the backround... it's been working out nicely and I have been able to weather a small phosphorus, magnesium defincency going into flower but she bounced right back... Several days ago all her bottom fan leaves all curled up on me, the top half of the plant was fine so I thought maybe I watered a little too much so I let her sit for a few days she felt lighter and drier but the problem persisted.. I decided to bottom up water to rid the soil mix of salt build ups... I filled the tub up and once full I set the pot in and waited untill the water flowed up through the soil and lifted to drain... I did that three times before pulling the plug and readding nutes ( 2-10-10 with a touch of magnesium) and letting her drain dry before retenting her... this was 2 days ago and still no improvement.. the soil mix does feel slightly damp when I shove my finger into it up to my knuckle... I'm going to leave her alone untill Monday no water.. no nothing... Any ideas guys? 20160423_082002.jpg 20160423_081933.jpg
 

RM3

Well-Known Member
Your temp humidity relationship is off, they are trying to slow transpiration

for a temp of 85 an RH of 59 would be better if you can adjust it

adding another fan (lower) might help also
 

kachiga

Well-Known Member
Your temp way to high less you are doing co2. Get temp to 76, max 80.

I think you tried to flush? Really sounded like it with putting it in the tub. I am against that less you really did something bad. And next time just pour water though it, clean ph water if you are trying to flush.

Did you say you mixed soil and coco? I never done that didn't know you could tbh. Sorry I can't help you with that part, I don't really know your nutes or grow method I guess.

But I do not see any leaves curling up, can be a few different things. I do see them curling down, looks like a bit of over water.
 

GrnGardnr

New Member
Thanks Gregor! it's been a labor of love, unknown bagseeds too..looks like a keeper to me, well see afterwards...

Yea kachiga I did flush my soil .. I figured as long as i did it gently and re-added nutes it wont harm the plant any, and it may clear the problem out if it was nute or soil related .the temps are what they are.. I cant get them lower without blowing my electric bill up... But this clones mother weathered hotter temps on the last run no problems so I'm not to concerned

I'll try to raise humidity as well RM to see if it helps... Typically the humidity swings here from the low 40's to the high 60's every few days depending on the weather... I dropped the fan a bit to flow into the center of the plant not only the top
 
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foxcrew6

Active Member
Im guessing when you gave it a bath the soil got so wet that the plant is just saying dont water me for a few days still confused why you gave the girl a bath but people will try any thing,i grow all organic with no NUTES EVER and very very successful indoors
 
Hi,
iam not a gardener or have so much experience (just like you, i try it also since 1 year), but for me it looks like over watering. In my opinion your temperature is OK also your humidity. But your pot dont look so good to me. Looks like a bucket, can the water leave below? Maybe you can add a heating pad to get the medium dry. (dont overheating your roots)

I like these pots http://www.amazon.com/inch-GardenHQ-hydroponics-aquaponics-orchids/dp/B01E4KCIEW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462562008&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=net+cups+pots&psc=1

I use some with 1,5 Gallone


I found this text on a site:
Over-watering and under-watering cannabis plants
Over-watering is the single biggest mistake made by beginner growers. !!!! It leads to the roots becoming too wet and thereby unable to take up enough oxygen !!!!, thanks to which they will slowly die.

!!!! The characteristics of over-watering are primarily yellow leaves that fall off, and sometimes not yellow leaves falling off too, leaves that droop (just as in under-watering) but if you’ve just given them water and they continue to droop then you can be sure the cause was not under-watering !!!!

You can avoid over-watering by doing this: when your soil is dry, lift up your pot and weigh it, then weight it again when you’ve fully watered it. If you repeat these weighings for a day or two then you’ll have an accurate idea of how much water the plant is using and develop a better idea of how much to give her!
 

foxcrew6

Active Member
Hi,
iam not a gardener or have so much experience (just like you, i try it also since 1 year), but for me it looks like over watering. In my opinion your temperature is OK also your humidity. But your pot dont look so good to me. Looks like a bucket, can the water leave below? Maybe you can add a heating pad to get the medium dry. (dont overheating your roots)

I like these pots http://www.amazon.com/inch-GardenHQ-hydroponics-aquaponics-orchids/dp/B01E4KCIEW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462562008&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=net+cups+pots&psc=1

I use some with 1,5 Gallone


I found this text on a site:
Over-watering and under-watering cannabis plants
Over-watering is the single biggest mistake made by beginner growers. !!!! It leads to the roots becoming too wet and thereby unable to take up enough oxygen !!!!, thanks to which they will slowly die.

!!!! The characteristics of over-watering are primarily yellow leaves that fall off, and sometimes not yellow leaves falling off too, leaves that droop (just as in under-watering) but if you’ve just given them water and they continue to droop then you can be sure the cause was not under-watering !!!!

You can avoid over-watering by doing this: when your soil is dry, lift up your pot and weigh it, then weight it again when you’ve fully watered it. If you repeat these weighings for a day or two then you’ll have an accurate idea of how much water the plant is using and develop a better idea of how much to give her!
Overwatering is foresure this plants issue do to the swimming she did but they will bounce back and still make it through
 
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