General Organics Go Box

Discussion in 'Organics' started by medicineforpatients, Jul 13, 2013.

  1. Anyone use it? How where the results? Looks good to me. Only $35 for 8 bottles of nutes(8-16oz) that they claim is organic.
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    hexthat

    hexthat Well-Known Member

    never got the box i use bioroot and bioweed and the calmag+
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    st0wandgrow

    st0wandgrow Well-Known Member

    I used their whole line (minus the squid/fish one or whatever it is) and had really good results.

    I question whether they're truly organic though. If you read the ingredients on a few of the bottles it sure doesn't look like it.

    Potassium sulfate? Sodium borate? Ferric sulfate?
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    NightOwlBono

    NightOwlBono Active Member

    Which bottle/s have those ingredients?here in Canada the bottles don't have that on the label
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    st0wandgrow

    st0wandgrow Well-Known Member

    The Biothrive Grow and Biothrive Bloom.

    The back of the bottle reads:

    Derived from: Alfalfa meal, copper sulfate, ferric sulfate, kieserite, manganese sulfate, molasses, potassium sulfate, rock phosphate, sodium borate, sodium molybdate, soybean meal, zinc sulfate.

    Is it just me or does that not really seem very "organic"?
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    NightOwlBono

    NightOwlBono Active Member

    Hmm I just called the local hydroshop and asked them to read the bottle ingredients to me.....you right man
    i personally use the entire line minus the black diamond.
    i must have old stock because three of those chemicals are not on my GO veg+bloom

    im now going to be switching to botanicare organic veg+bloom formulas,luckily I only use hydro for my lettuce,kale,spinach,ect
    i use a supersoil recipe for more important crops
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    Nullis

    Nullis Moderator

    Potassium sulfate = K[SUB]2[/SUB]SO[SUB]4[/SUB] = sulfate of potash. It's a popular ingredient you'll see in many organic fertilizers, actually sourced from mined minerals. It is more commonly found crystallized with sulfates of Ca, Mg and Na. For example Langbeinite which is K[SUB]2[/SUB]SO[SUB]4[/SUB]·2MgSO[SUB]4[/SUB] or potassium sulfate with magnesium sulfate. Other ingredients you'll see are likely derived from mined minerals.

    Kieserite is actually one form of hydrated magnesium sulfate (MgSO[SUB]4[/SUB]·H[SUB]2[/SUB]O). Epsomite is another, also called epsom salts (MgSO[SUB]4[/SUB]·7H[SUB]2[/SUB]O), and being much more hydrated.

    Kieserite = MgSO[SUB]4[/SUB]·H[SUB]2[/SUB]O = hydrated magnesium sulfate
    Espsomite\Epsom salts = MgSO[SUB]4[/SUB]·7H[SUB]2[/SUB]O = super hydrated magnesium sulfate

    Gypsum = CaSO[SUB]4[/SUB]·2H[SUB]2[/SUB]O = calcium sulfate dihydrate
    Borax = Na[SUB]2[/SUB]B[SUB]4[/SUB]O[SUB]7[/SUB]·10H[SUB]2[/SUB]O or Na[SUB]2[/SUB]B[SUB]4[/SUB]O[SUB]7[/SUB]·5H[SUB]2[/SUB]O = sodium borate or disodium tetraborate.
    Oyster shell is mostly calcite\aragonite = CaCO[SUB]3[/SUB] = calcium carbonate (aragonite being another mineral form).
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    hyroot

    hyroot Well-Known Member

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    Nullis

    Nullis Moderator

    Huh? That is the State of Oregon fertilizer product registration database, mainly for listing heavy metals contents.
    You can get to it from here: http://www.oregon.gov/ODA/PEST/Pages/fertilizer.aspx

    Most the stuff there on the listing for Diamond Black is blank (6% Humic acid, 1% Sol potash), aside from the heavy metals which frankly don't concern me all that much. Compare it to their listing for the Bio-Thrive Grow: http://oda.state.or.us/dbs/heavy_metal/detail.lasso?-op=eq&product_id=16788, which actually gives some more info on the nutrient contents and a bit more relative to the "Non-Plant Food Ingredients" in the product... but still nothing about the actual ingredients that make up the product.

    http://oda.state.or.us/dbs/heavy_metal/detail.lasso?-op=eq&product_id=11206 - The interesting thing about that one is that it lists all of the microbials in the product.

    Non-Plant Food Ingredients are basically ingredients not strictly defined by law as directly contributing to the nutrition of the plant or for another purpose. For example; the microbes, humic acid, kelp sometimes, cane sugar and molasses, vitamin B1, rooting hormone, etc.
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    st0wandgrow

    st0wandgrow Well-Known Member

    Interesting.

    I wonder why they're not OMRI listed then?
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    sunnydizzle

    sunnydizzle Member

    I love the GO Box! 5/5* good stuff.
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    swaggersDlite

    swaggersDlite Active Member

    i grow with the whole line for a few large grows now this is the first time i haven't added other additives or bloom pk boosters hope the yield doesn't suffer, but we'll see.The big reason i use and love this product is i NEVER have to ph, and for pennies you can grow pounds (so cheap). :bigjoint:

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