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kgp

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genuity said:
the grower is at fault in most all factors of the grow...to be honest

a shit grower will get shit end results...no matter how good the genetic potential profile(GPP) is.
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Very true but a great grower with subpar genetics would most likely get a subpar plant when pushed to the genetic potential. Not saying that this has anything to do with ggg.

The genetic flavor profiles, and combination of cannabanoids and terpenes play a greater roll. Growing a plant that YOU don't find enjoyable could cause you to dislike a certain strain or type of plant.

Good thing about opinions is that there is no right answer. It's about personal tastes.
 
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genuity

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kgp said:
Very true but a great grower with subpar genetics would most likely get a subpar plant when pushed to the genetic potential. Not saying that this has anything to do with ggg.

The genetic flavor profiles, and combination of cannabanoids and terpenes play a greater roll. Growing a plant that YOU don't find enjoyable could cause you to dislike a certain strain or type of plant.

Good thing about opinions is that there is no right answer. It's about personal tastes.
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@kgp thats why i like ya,cause you do keep it real,and do not sugar coat it..we really need more people like this.

@Amos Otis i have my weeks of shit growing,and like @urban1026835 said,i still get the "good job" or "look at the frost tho"
when i know damn well the plant is not looking how it should look.

as for going off the write up of seeds(f1,polyhybrid,s1),it's bullshit to,cause every seed will not be the same.

@Amos Otis it really is a class of top notch growers,that i will not name,but these guy/gals know how to let the plant reach its full GPP.

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TonightYou

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genuity said:
the grower is at fault in most all factors of the grow...to be honest

a shit grower will get shit end results...no matter how good the genetic potential profile(GPP) is.
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Hardly the case. Give an excellent or even just decent grower shit genetics, you will end up with a shit product. Rather simple. Hence why I run solid genetics, if somethings fucked up and I know it was nothing I've done, it's the genetics.
 
Mad Hamish

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TonightYou said:
Hardly the case. Give an excellent or even just decent grower shit genetics, you will end up with a shit product. Rather simple. Hence why I run solid genetics, if somethings fucked up and I know it was nothing I've done, it's the genetics.
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I get what you are saying mate, most of us need to take that route. But someday you will see what Genuity means, I have been watching him and a few other fellas do their thing for about a year now, they really are on a whole new level. I mean people are still saying organic hydro is impossible but this cat has been doing it very well for a long time already..
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Mad Hamish

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Apologies for double posting, silly phone... Anyhow, my point is there ar plants out there that require a whole new level of experience to bring to full potential. I have had my ass kicked by a few types and learned my lesson. Guys like Genuity have helped me up my game, and we are talking about small details like 'plant x will need more blue light in flower but not too much air and watch the lower branches for male flowers if canopy is dense' etc... Next level man.
 
genuity

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@TonightYou what is shit genetics to you?please share

@Mad Hamish thats all its about,trying to help people,and get help from people..

i watch the same guys you do,and the organic type dwc..as fast as a plant drinks in the systems,it's no way any bad stuff had a chance to grow....i think that is another key to it too.
 
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TonightYou

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I hear ya. I'm not knocking GGG as I'm now proudly running 3 beans of Grape Stomper, which I'm excited for as I've always wanted to try their gear. Seems like this is another breeder that people really like.

ETA: I consider myself a good grower, but there are many which are much better than myself.
What would I consider shit genetics? Well I wasn't happy with some TH Seeds, or G13 from my experience. Both of those come to mind, granted I have a limited personal perspective to draw from. Not to say their gear is universally sub part but nothing I'd run again. Also it's pretty easy to deduct from these boards which breeders stand out in consistent quality and those which have questionable genetics
 
st0wandgrow

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genuity said:
if you put your self in that group,then thats you..
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Well, when I pop a pack of seeds and only 8 sprout, I only get two females, and one turns out to be a guy-gal that pollinates a bunch of my patients plants I'm not left with a warm fuzzy feeling about said company. Then to have someone affiliated with the company blame that on "shit growers"?? What a cop-out. Is that how Gage earns business from people on the fence?

This Grape Puff *looks* pretty, as do all of the GGG strains, but I'm not doing this so that I can snap pics of a pretty plant and impress a bunch of random strangers on a weed site. Pics don't mean shit. Whether you want to admit it or not, the single most important factor for what kind of smoke you will end up with is genetics. I don't care how good you think you are, if you're handed a pack of shit seeds, you'll end up with bags full of shit weed.
 
st0wandgrow

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TonightYou said:
I hear ya. I'm not knocking GGG as I'm now proudly running 3 beans of Grape Stomper, which I'm excited for as I've always wanted to try their gear. Seems like this is another breeder that people really like.

ETA: I consider myself a good grower, but there are many which are much better than myself.
What would I consider shit genetics? Well I wasn't happy with some TH Seeds, or G13 from my experience. Both of those come to mind, granted I have a limited personal perspective to draw from. Not to say their gear is universally sub part but nothing I'd run again. Also it's pretty easy to deduct from these boards which breeders stand out in consistent quality and those which have questionable genetics
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Those Grape Stomper beans are not GGG.

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Amos Otis

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st0wandgrow said:
I'm not doing this so that I can snap pics of a pretty plant and impress a bunch of random strangers on a weed site. Pics don't mean shit. Whether you want to admit it or not, the single most important factor for what kind of smoke you will end up with is genetics. I don't care how good you think you are, if you're handed a pack of shit seeds, you'll end up with bags full of shit weed.
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Mad Hamish

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StOw, after seeing the pics of GS posted here I have been looking it up... Dude I seriously dont know where your beanpoles came from, what I remember you posting on the teas thread and what I have been seeing look quite different. The pics are missing off the tea thread, you still have any of the pics of those in veg and early flower?
 
genuity

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st0wandgrow said:
Well, when I pop a pack of seeds and only 8 sprout, I only get two females, and one turns out to be a guy-gal that pollinates a bunch of my patients plants I'm not left with a warm fuzzy feeling about said company. Then to have someone affiliated with the company blame that on "shit growers"?? What a cop-out. Is that how Gage earns business from people on the fence?

This Grape Puff *looks* pretty, as do all of the GGG strains, but I'm not doing this so that I can snap pics of a pretty plant and impress a bunch of random strangers on a weed site. Pics don't mean shit. Whether you want to admit it or not, the single most important factor for what kind of smoke you will end up with is genetics. I don't care how good you think you are, if you're handed a pack of shit seeds, you'll end up with bags full of shit weed.
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pics mean nothing?? how did you come to buy/get most of the beans/seeds you have today??
i grow lots of breeders crosses,and i get balls and nanners with them all,and i know for sure lots of people hold that back for the "breeders"they like.i do not,i let GGG know about all balls/nanners,with pics.
words without pics,is just that..words.

so its best to always "blame" the breeders?
if you buy/get beans off of write up,then you should be looking for the plant/clone they did the write up on.

i know for a fact i have done shit grows,but ill post pics of all said bad plants,and how they was grown..ect.

my statements are about all breeders,not just GGG.

i just put 12 beans down of TE remix v2,only 3 came up......should i be mad?should i blame the breeder?
non of the above,it's the way of the bean,and they have left me with 3 very nice looking plants to play with,and im sure one will be female,if not oh'well.
 
st0wandgrow

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genuity said:
pics mean nothing?? how did you come to buy/get most of the beans/seeds you have today??
i grow lots of breeders crosses,and i get balls and nanners with them all,and i know for sure lots of people hold that back for the "breeders"they like.i do not,i let GGG know about all balls/nanners,with pics.
words without pics,is just that..words.

so its best to always "blame" the breeders?
if you buy/get beans off of write up,then you should be looking for the plant/clone they did the write up on.

i know for a fact i have done shit grows,but ill post pics of all said bad plants,and how they was grown..ect.

my statements are about all breeders,not just GGG.

i just put 12 beans down of TE remix v2,only 3 came up......should i be mad?should i blame the breeder?
non of the above,it's the way of the bean,and they have left me with 3 very nice looking plants to play with,and im sure one will be female,if not oh'well.
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Look, I don't want to come off like a whiny baby. May be too late for that, but oh well. I'm not looking for free seeds or sympathy. Just sharing my experience. I took umbrage with your comment about shit growers. I view that as a cop-out. I just spent the weekend picking seeds out of my patients plants, so I might be over-reacting a bit ....

I honestly don't choose strains based off of pictures. Every breeder puts their best foot forward and markets their gear to look appealing to potential customers. I've seen way too many plants over the years that look nice, but fall way short of expectations. I don't put much stock in to breeder descriptions either. Of course they're going to tell you everything you want to hear. I look to other growers whose opinion I value, and have nothing to financially gain by repping a strain. The bodhi thread right here on RIU is what turned me on to his gear. Posters like brek, TonightYou, Amos, calicat, etc etc that grew these strains out and universally praised the gear. That means way more to me than what any breeder has to say about their own wares.

I understand that growers can fuck shit up, but let's be honest ....once the learning curve is over growing this plant isn't rocket science. I've had Greenhouse seeds, TGA, Dutch Passion, and other companies in my garden that have sketchy reputations as far as stability goes, and never once had my garden pollinated. Maybe because of that good fortune I didn't really know what to look for and waited too long to get that plant out of there. I'll own that mistake, but that plant did not hermie due to stress. The only thing I can think of is that I had to top it coming out of veg because there were no side branches to take cuts from so that may have been the trigger ...... but if that's the case then I don't want a plant in my garden that will throw balls over being topped.
 
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