Full implementation of legal cannabis could be delayed beyond July 1

gb123

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So....hows this gonna work anyway? lol if say they allow online sales but most provinces have squatt....come day one? lol classic Cannadah EH
fools

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The full implementation of legal cannabis could occur later than July 1, government officials told CBC News Tuesday.

While the Liberal government is still hoping its legislation will pass Parliament before July — even though it faces entrenched opposition from some Conservative senators — it recognizes it may take some provinces 8 to 12 weeks of further work after the law passes before consumers can purchase legal, recreational marijuana from storefronts.

Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor, during an appearance before a committee of the whole inside the Senate Tuesday, said she has heard from lower levels of government that more time might be required.

"As a practical matter — they told us they need 8 to 12 weeks following royal assent for preparatory activities to occur, such as lawful movement of product from license producers to distribution and retail outlets."

"Before legislation comes into force and Canadians can legally buy cannabis, Health Canada continues to engage national and community partners to share information related to implementation and ensure all levels of government our prepared for the prospective coming into force of bill," she said.

Based on that timeline, the Senate would have to pass the bill by end of May if the government is to meet its July timeline for full legalization.

That scenario seems unlikely as the legislation, Bill C-45, is currently only at second reading in the Red Chamber, meaning it still has to be studied at committee — where many witnesses are expected to be called for testimony — before the bill is sent back to the chamber for further debate at third reading.

There is also the strong possibility that amendments will be proposed to the bill, which, if passed by the Senate, would then have to be sent back to the House of Commons to be approved by MPs, a process that could tack on weeks to the legislative process.

'We've made it very clear that our goal is this summer.' - Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale
Like other government bills in the past, Conservative senators could also continually adjourn debate in their name, which allows a senator to sit on a bill until they are ready to speak to its content.

Conservative Senate Leader Larry Smith said Tuesday his senators won't be "obstructionist," but they will insist on rigorous and thorough examination of the bill.

Independent Senate officials, speaking to CBC News on background, have said there is an openness to using time allocation, a procedural tool used to shut down debate and move to a vote, if Conservatives prevent the bill's passage in a timely manner.




A photo of cannabis production at a Canopy Growth Corporation facility in Ontario. The Senate is studying the government's legislation that will legalize marijuana. (Canopy Growth Corp.)

Until the bill receives royal assent, it will be illegal to transport cannabis. Thus, the federal government believes it will take weeks to formally establish a distribution system that will allow producers to transport their product to provincially-run stores, or, depending on the province, private retailers.

Employees will have to be hired, screened and trained on the sale of the drug, too, meaning retail operations cannot materialize overnight even if there is a change to the law of the land.

The legislation, as currently written, stipulates the legislation does not come into force until a date is fixed by an order of the governor in council (Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's cabinet).

"We've made it very clear that our goal is this summer," Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said. "Our goal is this summer in an orderly fashion with all the pieces sequenced in the right order so that they are effective."

Legislation could face hurdles in the Senate
Three Liberal cabinet ministers appeared before the Red Chamber Tuesday to defend their cannabis legislation. In an unusual move, senators allowed television cameras to capture the proceedings.

Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould, Petitpas Taylor, Goodale and Bill Blair, the parliamentary secretary tasked with seeing the cannabis bill passed, fielded questions for two hours from some skeptical senators who worry the legislation will endanger youth, increase smoking rates, complicate the work of police officers, lead to a backlog of court cases for possession offences, and do little to curb the black market sale of the drug.



The legislation passed through the House of Commons, largely along partisan lines, but the Senate has proven to be a more tricky chamber to navigate with some Conservative senators signalling they will do all they can to stall the bill's passage.

Some provincial officials and law enforcement agencies have said they will not be ready for legal cannabis by July 1, and, thus, the Tories believe implementation should be delayed by at least year to allow the other levels of government to play catch-up.



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Defenders of the bill, including its sponsor in the Senate, Tony Dean, say the government does not have the luxury of time as illegal cannabis use will continue unabated — a $7-billion industry, according to government research, that funnels funds into the hands of organized crime — without the benefit of federal regulations.

The government maintains the prohibitionist approach has done little to stop young Canadians from using the drug, and does not protect the health and wellness of Canadians.

"Canadians are already consuming cannabis at record levels. The individual and social societal harms associated with cannabis use are already being felt every day. The proposed legislation, and eventual regulation, is our best attempt to minimize those harms," Wilson-Raybould said.
 

gb123

Well-Known Member
8 to 12 weeks :lol:
more like 8 to 12 years HAHAHAHAHAHA

attempt she says..

Not gonna happen...

So..what did I win ? lol
June somethin last I saw from somone...or sooner?
Who's gettin the cash to say yes for or before July?

Just makin fun...this truely is a joke of all jokes...
Im glad my kids get to see first hand what their government is capable of in the name of money... along with many others..
We ARE a force to be reckoned with people DONT EVER FORGET THAT
WE ARE THE MONEY!
They have nothing without us.
simply put
no one is going to hand their business over come this summer..
I doubt they will ever have to join em!..
The feds will lose this one hands down,
 
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gb123

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know the head grower for metruns..only thing they MAy have going for them...
He laughed at what they were growing in when he got there.
They were paying the idiot they fired over 150 gs

to grow in Promix lol
 

gb123

Well-Known Member
Conservative senator says police won't be ready for high drivers by Canada Day deadline


Canada Day 2018 may not be as high a time as some Canadians might have hoped.

On Tuesday, three Liberal cabinet ministers defended the government's cannibas legislation in a rare televised session in the Red Chamber, and the focus was on the self-imposed legalization deadline of July 1.

Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould, Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor, Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale and Bill Blair, the parliamentary secretary tasked with seeing the cannabis bill passed, fielded questions from the senators.

The July 1 deadline is being questioned, as the timeline of the bill depends on how long it takes the Senate to review and adopt Bill C-45.

So far, Conservative senators have been delaying the adoption of the bill because they say some law enforcement agencies won't be ready for legal cannabis by the deadline.


A man lights a marijuana joint as he participates in the 4/20 protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on April 20, 2015. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

Claude Carignan is a Conservative senator who has been delaying the legislation because he says the necessary groundwork isn't in place. He spoke with As It Happens host Carol Off about what he wants to see in order to adopt the bill. Here is part of their conversation.

Senator Carignan, a majority of Canadians support legalizing these drugs. They want reform. Why delay it?



Well, first I'm not sure that the measure is if Canadians support it because that's not what I'm hearing on the ground. Secondly, the objective is not to delay it. It's to do our job, our responsibility, to study this legislation. So that's exactly what we're doing.

The last time we spoke with Bill Blair he was talking about this. He was quite confident that he would be ready, the police would be ready, that the systems in place to address many of the concerns you have would be there. Why do you think that we won't be ready?


Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale responds to a question during question period in the House of Commons on Feb. 1. (Fred Chartrand/Canadian Press )

That's not what we hear actually. We studied C-46. C-46, it's the impaired driving bill, and we just started our study in the legal and constitutional committee. And last week, we had the high commissioner of RCMP and he said very clearly that they will not be ready to apply this legislation during the summer.



And you're talking about the drug recognition experts, is that right?

Not only train but to recognize people that they are impaired by drugs or alcohol. So they have a symptomatic test and so they are experts to what kind of drugs the driver is impaired [by]. So actually we have only 500, around 500, in all the country and that's not enough. So the minister said that he wants to double [the experts] in six months but I think that's impossible.

But we know that people are already driving impaired. They are already under the influence of drugs and they're behind the wheel. So is it not the case that there will be methods of detection that don't exist to any great degree now. That in fact there will be better detection of those who are already out there on the road behind the wheel with drugs.


Marijuana plants are pictured during a tour of Canopy Growth Corp., formerly Tweed Marijuana. in Smiths Falls, Ont. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

Yes that's true. And what we have seen particularly in Colorado, in Washington, Oregon when they legalized marijuana the impaired driving was very high. So that's the reason why we need to have tools because people, and particularly young drivers, think that we could drive safely with cannabis and that's not the case. So we have a lot of education to do.

Just to be clear, you're not saying that this shouldn't go through, that there shouldn't be legalized marijuana, are you?

Look, I think in our job in the Senate, it's to study the legislation and not be rushed by a political agenda. And make sure that we will not create a system where the people will not be safe and secure and we always have to protect youth. So we have to make sure this is the intention of the government to do that. That the legislation, that's exactly what it's supposed to do. And actually we have seen a lot of problems with the legalization Bill C-45. We have seen also a lot of problems with the C-46 or the impaired driving bill. And we have to do our job and we will probably recommend amendments to those two bills to the government and we will see after what the government will decide to do.

The issue is that right now we've had, because of the legacy of our drug laws, so many young people especially racialized young people getting criminal records while we wait for this to happen. That there have been many convictions and is that not also as important to reduce the numbers of those young people who are getting convictions?

I agree with you. It's for that, that I'm in favour of the decriminalization of the cannabis. But not necessarily the legalization. That's important but I don't think that we have to go with the legalization. And we have seen people, like in Norway, the rate of consumption is very low. So I think we have to see what's happening in the other countries for best practice to reduce consumption.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Why don't they just do the same thing with the scourge of cannabis impaired drivers that they've been doing for the last 90 years? How did they manage to keep cannabis related driving deaths so low for all these years? If they are waiting for a breathalyzer equivalent, they've got a bit of a wait. Maybe they think we are all waiting until it's legal until we start being dangerous?
As for July 1 - the media keeps saying the Liberals target date is July 1st. I've been keeping up pretty good and I cannot find any Liberal saying July 1st, except Blair who wants to keep that date sacred for Canada's Birthday and implementing new taxes. Yet more media bullshit to stir the pot.
 

HotWaterKarl

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It would be super funny if everyone started smoking weed after legalization (including people who don't now) and all of a sudden our roads got even safer, because everyone was all chilled out. Haha. That's probably closer to the truth than the fear mongering politicians and hate groups like MADD.
 
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