freeze berry from big heads

Seedlin said:

Buddy I have no idea when she started. It doesnt really matter. Patience weedhopper patience. They WILL ALL FLOWER.How long you let them go before chopping is ur choice. I let everything I have done and I have grown around 45 -50 autos, go way over the magic 70-0 days most breededs advertive. I start flushing around 70 days depending on the size and thickness of the buds. To get those big thick heavy colas ihave had some go over 100 days. The key is patience and watch em close every day. I have yet to cut one at 70 days. Take.time to know your girls....

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Dude, thats exactly what I needed to hear. I'm sitting here thinking they will start to degrade and die off shortly after that advertised harvest period. Hence my anxiety. But you seem very knowledgeable about autos in general and have WAY more experience than I (first time growing) thanks for the input.

Still no sign of bud or preflowers. It wanted to show sex on a few places, but isn't really showing all that much. Like 2 spots with hairs coming out, that's it. Its going on 55 days. And I decided to pull the HPS for the polar express I thought might've been a herm. I'm pretty sure she isn't, or prolly even wasn't, the formations I saw could've easily been the starts of new node sites as compared to a different strain; auto diesel berry I have currently, yet when this one started to show the same signs, I left them alone (didnt cut them) and they turned out to be new node sites. But looked identical to the presumed "balls" the first few days after appearing. Long story short, I cut off baby branches, not male pollen sacs. furthermore, the freezeberry auto is currently sitting under 14 23w cfls @ 5000k. She stopped stretching so much, now I'm hoping to start seeing preflowers any day.

Still not a sign of preflowers. For an "autolower", she's being really stubborn. I hoped she would've been started on flower but what can we do. Once I get some more room and a little extra cash, I'm going to start on my led build. Should only be a few weeks for that, but once I do, I know all my plants will benefit. Not stretching so much anymore but the growth has slowed down a lot. She was stretching like mad under the 150w hps, but since I put her back under the cfl's, she's staying where I want her. Gna throw on a scrog net once I cut my polar express. I'm kinda space limited right now. Hopefully we get some sign of bud soon.

berten-ernie420 said:

Still not a sign of preflowers. For an "autolower", she's being really stubborn. I hoped she would've been started on flower but what can we do. Once I get some more room and a little extra cash, I'm going to start on my led build. Should only be a few weeks for that, but once I do, I know all my plants will benefit. Not stretching so much anymore but the growth has slowed down a lot. She was stretching like mad under the 150w hps, but since I put her back under the cfl's, she's staying where I want her. Gna throw on a scrog net once I cut my polar express. I'm kinda space limited right now. Hopefully we get some sign of bud soon.

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put it under a box for 48 hours and see what happens or flip to 12/12

I am currently running a bunch of autos and "autos" on 13/11 due to a situation much like yours, an auto wasnt auto. waited like 60 or 70 days for them. FWIW the actual real auto's I am growing are doing fine and budding up nice under this lighting

billytimmy said:

put it under a box for 48 hours and see what happens or flip to 12/12

I am currently running a bunch of autos and "autos" on 13/11 due to a situation much like yours, an auto wasnt auto. waited like 60 or 70 days for them. FWIW the actual real auto's I am growing are doing fine and budding up nice under this lighting

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What lights are you using? And what strains?

And another update, I built a double deck scrog net, and removed the hps to another room so now she is all scrogged up, ready for the 12/12 flip, as soon as my autos are all done. Probably another month or so, give or take a few weeks. So she will be nice and plump under the cfl's before I flip her to 12/12 under the future led build. Pics coming tonight when lights kick back on.

So here she is, so much for autoflower, I'm 99.99999999% positive that she's a photo dependant plant. She's officially 62 days old from seed and not a damn sign of bud or preflowers. Not even the hairs bursting, she had a few spots where a tiny hair could be seen wanting to pop out, but to me, she's still in veg. So ill just keep her going until the led build is complete and flip her then. She's got two scrog nets on her, one lower seperating the long and lengthy branches, and another about 7" higher to guide the growing branches exactly where I want them. Especially for the stretch after the light cycle flip. She's still massive in comparison to any of my other plants. I'll be honest, if she doesn't kick those dark, almost purple colors after I flip her, ill be kinda disappointed and I may even decide to put the remainder of the seed stock on the shelf for a while, I was thinking she was gna be one of my favorites, now I'm thinking not so much. Fed her today, going off the fox farms smart naturals feeding schedule, week #8. First use of sugar daddy, hope it'll do what it advertises. But we still have quite some time before thats going to come into play. Without further adieu, miss freeze berry.

Last one, only lets me upload 10 @ a time.

Man. She looks great. Very healthy. I had a similar issue and had to cut lights back. Went pretty extreme going from 18/6 to 12/12, but she (Lemon Skunk that I thought was an auto too) finally started flowering and fast too. My Auto ULH (flowered just fine at day 20 or so) has been going along for the ride too, so after week 7 she went from 18/6 to 12/12. I would have loved to continue the 18/6 schedule, but she is still getting fat ass buds, so it's all good.

Toaster D said:

Man. She looks great. Very healthy. I had a similar issue and had to cut lights back. Went pretty extreme going from 18/6 to 12/12, but she (Lemon Skunk that I thought was an auto too) finally started flowering and fast too. My Auto ULH (flowered just fine at day 20 or so) has been going along for the ride too, so after week 7 she went from 18/6 to 12/12. I would have loved to continue the 18/6 schedule, but she is still getting fat ass buds, so it's all good.

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When you switched, how much did she stretch? Do u recall? N man thats reassuring to hear, situations sound identical. I have a total of 3 other autos, 1 little kushy auto, 1 diesel berry, and the polar express u saw earlier. hehehe. 2 out of those other 3 all started budding on their own, the little kushy isn't quite old enough yet, she's only about 2 weeks in. This damn freeze berry "auto" isn't an auto I think. Which is cool, I guess. I'm gna just keep her vegging until I finish up this led build I'm trying to get started. I'm not growing this stuff for anyone but me, so if I gotta wait a bit longer to claim my prize, then sobeit. But That means I have 3 photos going, and 3 autos. Not bad odds. I think the autos will supply enough to get me through until the photos fatten up and give me my real solid yield. I'm gna play around with my seeds a bit, maybe start throwing a couple more into germ within the following couple weeks. From the autos I have currently growing, they should all harvest in between 2-3 weeks of each other. So that's cool too. Timed those out pretty good, hahaha.

It was very close in size to yours IMO before the switch. Tough to tell for sure in the scrog netting. I was a little worried, so prior to the flip I topped. After the flip it did stretch a few inches, but nothing crazy. I LST'd my 2 tops after a week or two and tied some other branches down a bit to get as flat of a canopy as possible. I'm hoping my ULH will be ready in two weeks (starting my flush, so it better be) I figure the Lemon Skunk will go atleast another month after that.

I really want to start on my next group of autos though. So I want to get this back to an 18/6 schedule. Figure I will germ and veg my next round ( 4 Girl Scout Cookies by Fast Buds) for a few weeks after chopping my ULH in a separate area. Then they will be ready to go into the flower tent shortly after harvesting my Lemon Skunk. Hoping it finishes fairly quick though. My auto is at week 12 with no cloudy trichs.