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Sativied

Sativied

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pinner420 said:
Tear drop size resin... View attachment 3680385
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Not resin, sap (mostly water, sugar, minerals). And when it oozes like that it usually indicates disease or damage.

In theory amino acids can a better supplement than the typical bloomboosters but in practice... I've seen plenty of grows with expensive aminos from various sources and never one that made it look worth it for cannabis.
 
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VegasWinner

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Great form of urine available already packaged and processed by bats. comes recommended by Soma. I use a mix of Indonesian and Jamaican, Peruvian, and Mexican guano's at different phases of growth.
peace

First, due to the large number of companies dealing in guano at the retail level, and the nearly infinite N-P-K combinations that result from that, it was necessary to select one brand to use for illustration purposes. I chose Sunleaves, because they are the most readily available in my part of the world. Sunleaves is OMRI certified, so you can be sure of it's 100% organic content. However, this should not be taken as an endorsement of this brand over any other, it was simply convenience.

Indonesian Bat
.5-12-.2
Jamaican Bat
1-10-.2
Mexican Bat
10-2-1
Peruvian Seabird
10-10-2

So the immediate question is how do we get such wide swings in the N-P-K values. The answer is quite simple actually. Diet. Bats that consume a diet high in fruit, like the Indonesian or Jamaican, excrete a guano high in P. Bats that survive on a diet consisting primarily of insects, like the Mexican, excrete guano high in N. Seabird guano doesn't have a single species source, many different birds contribute to these deposits, and the differences in the diets, and the diet of what the bird's food source was consuming, are reflected in a guano high in both N and P with a good amount of K as well. I want to reiterate that there a numerous companies out there, and their N-P-K values are different, in many cases, very different, and that difference opens all manner of numerical possibilities and this whole thing is numbers.

https://www.420magazine.com/forums/organic-soil/101775-guano-gardeners-guide.html
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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So if I walk down the street with a shovel and come home with a bucket full of Seagull Shit, how do I put that into practical application in my garden?
 
pinner420

pinner420

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Sativied said:
Not resin, sap (mostly water, sugar, minerals). And when it oozes like that it usually indicates disease or damage.

In theory amino acids can a better supplement than the typical bloomboosters but in practice... I've seen plenty of grows with expensive aminos from various sources and never one that made it look worth it for cannabis.
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30 to 45 zs per plant seems like a good value indoors.
 
pinner420

pinner420

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OneHitDone said:
I thought is was 5 Parts Fulvic (hydro) or Humic (soil) to 2 Kelp?
Amino's are the Calcium Chelator?
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I'm an ionic fan so I use (fossil fue) and Amina from raw maybe overkill but the ladies love it. So the uptake of calcium will exceed your base nutes so bump the ol calmag. 1ml to the liter..
 
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Bill Lidgate

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Most of the scientific literature on amino acid uptake by plants (so called organic nitrogen) has identified this to be important in plants in the tundra/taiga where inorganic nitrogen is limiting. I suspect that if inorganic nitrogen is provided in abundance the addition of organic nitrogen would not provide marked benefits on a tropical plant like cannabis, but its a complex ecosystem and some AAs around could help. Its probably not too important since AAs in soil are usually rare and jealously guarded by the organisms that made them, but real controlled experiments could help sort this out.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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Fastslappy said:
I've used this stuff the last 2 years in the greenhouse on summer grows & it works great but very expensive
I had a gallon of the stuff
anything that's less expensive that works as well ?
as I'm now out of it .
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Where you using Dark Energy or Amino Actin from the American Hydroponics Commercial Nutrient line?
I pinned them down and they hesitantly admitted that they are the same product ;)

http://store.americanhydroponics.com/AminoActin-Chelating-Agent-p/88080.htm
 
Fastslappy

Fastslappy

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OneHitDone said:
Where you using Dark Energy
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that one that DE product
I went thru the check out process with that other product & it was about 125$ a gal to my place & amazon was / is 110$ for DE
but last time @ the local hydro store it was 175$ a gal
so someone making some $$ cash on this stuff
hence the look for a alternate product
 
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OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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Fastslappy said:
that one that DE product
I went thru the check out process with that other product & it was about 125$ a gal to my place & amazon was / is 110$ for DE
but last time @ the local hydro store it was 175$ a gal
so someone making some $$ cash on this stuff
hence the look for a alternate product
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Probably gonna have to look to a dry product like this
http://npk-industries.com/omina.html

The whole "bio-stimulant" thing has led me to doing some trial runs with General Hydroponics Flora Nova Grow / Bloom.
They are not real transparent about all the ingredients but their tech was proud to say that Protein Hydrolysate is one of the ingredients.
I suspect a humic or fulvic bases as well. Wish they would openly publish the ingredients.
Anyway, I had used Dark Energy and saw some good results. So, if the Flora Nova in fact has the amino's already in it I am basically buying a bottle of Dark Energy and getting Nutrients for Free :P
FloraNova at 5ml per gallon gives an EC of 1.3 in my water.
 
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