Former top cops Fantino, Souccar launch marijuana-services business

gb123

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Two of Canada’s former top cops – one of them recently a Conservative cabinet minister – are helping launch a new prescription-marijuana business.

Julian Fantino and Raf Souccar are executives with a business that will open a storefront clinic in a strip mall north of Toronto in the coming weeks.

Vaughan-based Aleafia Inc. is not a marijuana dispensary. It aims to be be among a new breed of corporate go-betweens, a “total health” provider that creates treatment plans for prospective medicinal-marijuana users and connects them with cannabis products from licensed growers.

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The fact that the business will not grow, sell or handle marijuana itself should not detract from the obvious irony of two former chief cops becoming cannabis middlemen. Both readily admit they were once outspoken about the dangers of the drug – and the politicians who would relax its prohibition.

“In my mind, having grown up in policing and so on, medical users were – for lack of a better term – dopeheads,” Mr. Souccar, a former undercover drug officer and RCMP deputy commissioner, said on Friday sitting with Mr. Fantino in a boardroom at the company’s office on Jane Street. Mr. Souccar is Aleafia’s president and chief executive officer.

Mr. Fantino, who headed the Ontario Provincial Police and Toronto Police Service before becoming a cabinet minister in Stephen Harper’s government, is the company’s executive chairman.

“What I said then was then, what I say today is my value system today,” Mr. Fantino said.

In his unsuccessful 2015 re-election bid, Mr. Fantino circulated flyers suggesting Justin Trudeau’s decriminalization plans would put marijuana into school children’s hands. “But I can tell you right now that times change, people’s thinking changes – I became more aware,” he said.

Mr. Fantino explained: “We’re talking about the medical benefits that have evolved and been tried and proven … it’s been a matter of informing myself, educating myself.”

On a tour of their company’s nearby clinic, they said the company will bring osteopaths, chiropractors, doctors and nurses to cater to patients there soon.

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Aleafia is clearly in the early stages – a bank of workout machines, computer monitors, and medical-examination tables are slowly emerging from cardboard and bubble wrap. The hope is to be operational later this fall.

What makes a career cop change his mind about a drug? Mr. Fantino said it was his time as Veterans Affairs minister, seeing how Afghan war veterans were turning to prescription marijuana to deal with anxiety, sleep disorders and post-traumatic stress disorder.

Statistics show that when Mr. Fantino took over Veteran’s Affairs in 2013, it was spending about $400,000 a year to help just over 100 veterans fill their prescriptions. When he left two years later, it was spending $20-million for more than 1,700 veterans.

Since then, under both Liberal and Conservative governments, the numbers have exploded. On Friday, the department told The Globe it expects to spend $90-million reimbursing veterans in the coming fiscal year.

That growth curve helps explain the potential business case for go-between companies such as Aleafia, which plans to sell client-treatment plans and get percentages of profit from product sold by growers it recommends. The niche fills a void – the federal government may license growers, and allow prescriptions, but does not put marijuana in people’s hands, or monitor how they use it.

Should marijuana be smoked or ingested? Should it be heavy or light on psychoactive elements like THC? How does it affect pre-existing medical conditions? These are the sorts of questions Aleafia hopes to address for each client.

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Demand for such services could grow, especially if police, firefighters and emergency workers are allowed to use medical marijuana for work-related ailments, and workplace insurance plans begin covering it. In February, an Aleafia vice-president – Marisa Cornacchia, a registered nurse at Sick Kids – addressed police chiefs about trends in mental health care for officers. Corporate records show the company was founded early this year by William Car, a Vaughan-based entrepreneur.

Mr. Souccar was a member of the Liberal government’s task force on decriminalizing marijuana. He said that work allowed him to meet people on prescriptions.

“They were people no different than me,” he said. “People with careers, and jobs and well educated, and all they wanted was some sort of normalcy back in their life. To be able to live a pain-free life, to be able to sleep at night, to be able to be productive like they once were.”

Mr. Souccar even said he now believes medical marijuana could help address Canada’s opioid crisis.

“Cannabis can be used to get people off of opioids,” he said, adding that he regrets seeing medicinal marijuana users as “dopeheads.”

As for Mr. Fantino, he simply says the new business shows how people can change.

“We have evolved. In our drug squad days we kept locking people up. Did we care about this other stuff? Not really,” he says. “This was our job right? But eventually in your life and your career you become more
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Two more names to add to the growing list of scum sucking senior civil servants and trough-slurping politicians. We are paying each one of these losers a fat pension too. Even those that choose to buy from LP's, do your research and boycott all LP's and cannabis businesses that have someone from the list in their employ. Make your reasons for not shopping at these places known. We will not support someone doing something that they previously imprisoned others for.
 

Farmer J BCNL

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I always say, the only real vote civilians get is how they choose to spend money. It really offends corporations when you don't buy their products/services. Choosing to support businesses who only choose responsible values into their practices is the best way to offend greedy corporations
 
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The Hippy

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I've been saying it all along...buying from LP's is basically like sucking off these two old bastards.
This has been my point all along...you buy LP weed....your supporting the biggest buncha hypocrites and back stabbing wagon jumpers there is.
How anyone could do business with their persecutors is beyond me. Buying from the folks who merrily busted you...what kind of fuckin tool would you need to be.
BOYCOTT as The Hippy has been suggesting/shouting since day one.......don't be a Johny boy...keep some pride at least.
 

Photon Flinger

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Well you can tell who the convicts are in this thread. I get to add more to my ignore list.

Instead of calling it progress in changing the minds of those opposed to legalization they complain about those going the legal route.

Bunch of cry babies.
 

The Hippy

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Cop suck up....like a cop-sucker type thing.....hahahahahahaha...is the big bad criminal bogey man gonna git ya....lmao....you afraid of the dark too??
 

HotWaterKarl

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Well you can tell who the convicts are in this thread. I get to add more to my ignore list.

Instead of calling it progress in changing the minds of those opposed to legalization they complain about those going the legal route.

Bunch of cry babies.
Those assholes persecuted innocent pot smokers, including medical patients. They are the criminals. So what if they have had a change of heart ($$$). They should be publicly tried for their crimes against humanity!
 

gb123

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Well you can tell who the convicts are in this thread. I get to add more to my ignore list.

Instead of calling it progress in changing the minds of those opposed to legalization they complain about those going the legal route.

Bunch of cry babies.
you seem to be the one who sticks around, crying about losing your business. Youll learn one day Son. :)
we're trying to help you see the error in your ways
soon enough..you'll be quiet and content like the rest! ')
 

Farmer J BCNL

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Well you can tell who the convicts are in this thread. I get to add more to my ignore list.

Instead of calling it progress in changing the minds of those opposed to legalization they complain about those going the legal route.

Bunch of cry babies.
You do you Scotty P. Aka @Photon Flinger aka @thelast1 what ever you call yourself.
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Btw I'd love to be added to the ignore list you have, must be half of the Canadians on RIU already on there.
 

Photon Flinger

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You do you Scotty P. Aka @Photon Flinger aka @thelast1 what ever you call yourself.

Btw I'd love to be added to the ignore list you have, must be half of the Canadians on RIU already on there.
Huh? My name isn't Scott, George, Buck, Bob, lastone, flinger, or whoever else the schills have ticked off and automatically assume it is when someone points out how wrong they are.

Please go ahead and add me to your ignore list. You obviously have nothing beneficial to contribute *cough* *blueberry* so there is no loss on my part.
 

gb123

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Huh? My name isn't Scott, George, Buck, Bob, lastone, flinger, or whoever else the schills have ticked off and automatically assume it is when someone points out how wrong they are..
they seem fitting to me because you haven't yet grasped the idea of legalization or how its going to go..in spite of what you think ...(:
that's right Dick. Dick is your name right?:?
 

Farmer J BCNL

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Huh? My name isn't Scott, George, Buck, Bob, lastone, flinger, or whoever else the schills have ticked off and automatically assume it is when someone points out how wrong they are.

Please go ahead and add me to your ignore list. You obviously have nothing beneficial to contribute *cough* *blueberry* so there is no loss on my part.
I don't have an ignore list. If I ignored you, who would tell you how really really dumb your posts are?
 

Photon Flinger

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I don't have an ignore list. If I ignored you, who would tell you how really really dumb your posts are?
Consider the source when valuating a statement. For example, I doubt you would feel insulted by a homeless person who made a comment about your poor finances.

Blueberry cough.
 
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