Flushing at the end of Vegetative State..?

Jack Harer

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When you get ready to go, hit me up. If I'm still out here, that is.I'll show you how to do it under $50, tax, tags, and options (out the door). I have court on the 22nd. D-Day. It's looking OK tho.
 

TATTOODETROIT

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When you get ready to go, hit me up. If I'm still out here, that is.I'll show you how to do it under $50, tax, tags, and options (out the door). I have court on the 22nd. D-Day. It's looking OK tho.
Rite on.. I will.. !! And goodluck with court.. Oh yea, I checked out your journal entry.. My Mom was saving up & using egg shells & coffee grounds in her flower gardens.. Good stuff to use.. !!
 

ismokealotofpot

New Member
Do ya use bag soil from the hydro store or do ya mix your own.. ??

What's your guy's take on ROOT'S ORGANIC soil?
I use bx promix. I get a good deal on it and buy it by the bail its cheaper. I was thinking about going all organic but Ive been doing it this way for so long I don't know ware to start.I may have to talk to jack hair.
 

TATTOODETROIT

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I use bx promix. I get a good deal on it and buy it by the bail its cheaper. I was thinking about going all organic but Ive been doing it this way for so long I don't know ware to start.I may have to talk to jack hair.
Hahahaha.. Rite on ismokealot.. !!

I just priced out Subcool's Supersoil recipe at an online nursery that's in California.. So far I'm at ''$116.00'' minus

- 1 bag of Bio-Bizz soil
- 25lbs worm castings
- 1/3 epsom salts
- 1tbsp ozomite
- Shipping/Handling

Actually droppin $200 on acouple highgrade bags of soil & spiking it /amendments isn't really all that bad price wise.. !! Next year, I plan on starting up my mulch pile again.. Hell I guess starting this winter wouldn't be a bad idea.. heh heh heh.. One thing that's been buggin me is tryin to find containers to store the super soil for the winter.. ?!?? Hhhmmmm.. I'll be back.. I'm goin to 'google' - Mulching Bins.. !! :-D
 

Buddy Ganga

Active Member
I use a storage tub for my promix. The largest size seems to fit my bail as soon as I take a couple of scoops out.
I mix in a smaller tub, that way I can save what I don't use for the next day.

Makes it easy when re-potting too, I just hold them over the tub. Makes clean up a breeze.

Pro mix bx $34.99 a bail from my local greenhouse/nursery $40 + at any grow shop.
 

Buddy Ganga

Active Member
Hahahaha.. Rite on ismokealot.. !!

I just priced out Subcool's Supersoil recipe at an online nursery that's in California.. So far I'm at ''$116.00'' minus

- 1 bag of Bio-Bizz soil
- 25lbs worm castings
- 1/3 epsom salts
- 1tbsp ozomite
- Shipping/Handling

Actually droppin $200 on acouple highgrade bags of soil & spiking it /amendments isn't really all that bad price wise.. !! Next year, I plan on starting up my mulch pile again.. Hell I guess starting this winter wouldn't be a bad idea.. heh heh heh.. One thing that's been buggin me is tryin to find containers to store the super soil for the winter.. ?!?? Hhhmmmm.. I'll be back.. I'm goin to 'google' - Mulching Bins.. !! :-D
Some of those are one time purchases (once every 6 to 10 months)and last a long time.
The initial cost may be hard to understand but one you see which ones you only buy every 6 to 10 months it will make more sense.
 

kbz

Active Member
fox farm isn't junk Its all i use and I have not one complaint. It works great, I use it for my clones, seedlings the whole nine, no problems yet. It is kinda hot but all I do is let the clones/seedlings go until they start to yellow a little and then give them some verde from humbolt. Thats all they will need for food through the entire veg cycle. Never burnt a plant
 

WestCoastMaster

Active Member
I use drip clean from start to finish, and always have some run-off when I water. Plus I feed right up to chop day. Flushing a plant for better taste is just a myth and not needed.

Never ever flush a plant unless it is sick and fucked up.
Im sorry buddy, but if you dont flush your plants before you "chop" them your herb will not burn evenly due to built up salt in your buds. Your smoke probably has a slight snap crackle and pop to it and is probably harsh too. If you flush for 1.5-2 weeks before you harvest you will still get as good of a yield as if you didnt. Your not sacrificing yield when you dont flush your sacrificing taste and aroma. Cronic smells good, and taste good right? Its cause the flush homie!!!!!!!
 
A plant grown outdoors never gets any type of flush and yet they never produce that harshness unless not cured properly! Unless someone can show me how nature is flushing at precisely the right time to not allow for the "snap, crackle, and pop", or the harshness, then it's still no flushing for me.
 

Buddy Ganga

Active Member
A plant grown outdoors never gets any type of flush and yet they never produce that harshness unless not cured properly! Unless someone can show me how nature is flushing at precisely the right time to not allow for the "snap, crackle, and pop", or the harshness, then it's still no flushing for me.
Apples to oranges really. And since an outdoor plant gets flushed so regularly, if anything it's an argument for not against.
And you don't have the chemicals to wash away..

Understanding the cannabis plant would help one to understand the benefits of flushing.
The best part of the plant gets built up in older leaves and growth, and the only way to get them to give up the goods is to starve the plant of any outside nitrogen or food. The plant turns to itself and starts draining the leaves and older growth, that's what turns the leaves yellow right before harvest. Well I guess you would only know the leaves turn yellow right before harvest if you flushed.

I can't get the best my plants have to offer if I don't flush..
 

bob harris

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Lots of good advice here. I see both sides of the fence. I'm an organic grower, so A) I don't worry about salt build up, and B) there is no flushing out organic nutrients. Someone said the only reason in the world to flush would be to flush out excess salts.I totally agree, but if you go truly organic, that becomes a non-issue. Since you can't flush out organic nutrients, you can't stop feeding them before harvest, so that shoots the "nutes make the buds taste bad" theory in the ass, 'cuz there is no better tasting bud than organic bud, and it's full of nutes.
Tattoo (You knucklehead!LOL) you know what I'm getting from all this? You can listen to everyone who knows about flushing,....OR you could just go organic and say fuck all that!!
I'm organic too...no ph'ing, no flushing. Just water and wait after mixing my soil.
Can't beat the taste of bud grown with guano...
 
How do you explain how an outdoor plant gets flushed of its nutrients if every time it rains it is absorbing more from the surrounding soil. There is no flush there? Cannabis does not selectively choose to stop uptaking nutrients from the soil just because flower formation is occuring. Also, the yellowing of leaves occurs, just as it does with our tree's, oaks, maples, etc. because of the decreased light levels eventually getting to a point that photosynthesis cannot occur at a pace capable of maintaining its green. Even keeping a plant on strong nutes with relatively large amounts of nitrogen will not prevent it's leaves from yellowing if your lighting is on a 12 hour or more darkness schedule. Try it, you'll see!
 

Buddy Ganga

Active Member
Understanding the cannabis plant would help one to understand the benefits of flushing.

Well since you went from "never gets flushed" to every time it rains, I doubt you are looking for information as much as you are an argument, and all I'm trying to do is offer information.

I don't want to smoke chemicals, so I flush.
I don't want a soar throat from smoking, so I flush.
I don't want to have to relight a join a couple of times while smoking it, so I flush.
I want my meds to burn smoothly and clean, so I flush.
I want to maximize my plants quality, so I flush.
I enjoy the fine tastes and aromas of cannabis, so I flush.
I want to strains flavor to be maximized, so I flush.
Good enough isn't good enough for me, so I flush.
 

Jack Harer

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But Buddy, not to pick an argument here, however how would you explain the fact that organic pot is the best tasting smoke you can get? You cannot flush out the nutrients like you can with chemical salts, and even though it would SEEM that nature flushes every time it rains, the nutrients are really still there right up to (and after) the harvest? Plants do not store salts in their tissue, they'd die if they did. It's probably the FORM of nutrient, not the nutrient itself, that would be MY theory.
 

Buddy Ganga

Active Member
I would suggest anyone growing, including organic growers flush a week or two before harvest offering the plant nothing more then water intill it's cut down. The same principles apply.
 

Jack Harer

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Buddy, once again, you cannot flush organic nutrients out of the soil like can be done with chemical salt ferts, so it's an exercise in futility.
 
Hhhmmm.. Ok.. I'm gona have ta look what you said up.. Interesting point.. But I thought it was Magnesium & phoshorus that built strong stems & the Nitrogen was used solely during flowering..
I've heard this to be true as well, I agree with flushing in between stages & again before the final flush @ harvest - at the same time every cultivator has their own techniques =)
 

Jack Harer

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As microbial action continues to break down organic matter and make more nutrients available to the plant? It's basic biology man.
 
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