flowering 6 weeks, yellowing wilting leaves, some with dried up burnt looking spots.

jcdws602

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I don't do soil any more but when I did I had lots of problems with soils that had nutes already in them.......I too switched to soils with nothing in them that way I knew exactly what was going on with my plants..
 

kappainf

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I don't do soil any more but when I did I had lots of problems with soils that had nutes already in them.......I too switched to soils with nothing in them that way I knew exactly what was going on with my plants..
Yeah it seems like if you really want complete control of a consistant feeding schedule, non nute soil is the only way to go. Plus you can get a 3.8 cu. ft. bag of organic peat for less than 10 bucks and a big bag of perlite for about the same. I like the way the peat perlite blend feels, might add some verm next time and maybe some of the shit that helps hold water.
 

stickyickyoohwee

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hmm.. well the only thing that started from that bottom and moved its way up slow was the big main fan leaves which would yellow then fall of which was normal, this problem id say started sorta high middle then top, so you think its a toxicity?, what do i do to help that problem?... and now im thinking since the problem seems to just be worsening with plain water and a flush that it may have been too little nutes and not too much?, and not putting any in the water the last 2 or 3 times im starving it?..
 

jcdws602

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Yeah it seems like if you really want complete control of a consistant feeding schedule, non nute soil is the only way to go. Plus you can get a 3.8 cu. ft. bag of organic peat for less than 10 bucks and a big bag of perlite for about the same. I like the way the peat perlite blend feels, might add some verm next time and maybe some of the shit that helps hold water.
I use 33% soil with no nutes 33% perlite and 33 % vermiculite......work really well....I don't grow mj in soil anymore but I still use this mix for all my other plants I grow in pots........



hmm.. well the only thing that started from that bottom and moved its way up slow was the big main fan leaves which would yellow then fall of which was normal, this problem id say started sorta high middle then top, so you think its a toxicity?, what do i do to help that problem?... and now im thinking since the problem seems to just be worsening with plain water and a flush that it may have been too little nutes and not too much?, and not putting any in the water the last 2 or 3 times im starving it?..

If you have flushed thoroughly and seen no sign of improvement then your plants may be in need of nutes.....If I were you I would give them a nice dose and see if you see any improvments
 

WeSmkDro

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if you want control ... use coco. if you dont know what coco is ... it is exactly what you want ... without soil. hydro in a medium ... its god medium.
 

stickyickyoohwee

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well ive just watered it with plain water i think 3 times now the third putting 3 and a half gallons of water through it and it had a lot of run off which had a good yellow tint to it, dont know if that was a thorough enough flush or not though, from what ive read and learned really your supposed to do 3 gallons to every gallon of soil or something along those lines which means id atleast have to put like 9 gallons of water?... so if it doesnt need a flush and needs food and i flush it, at the pace its going itd probably be passed the point of ability to recover since id have to wait for the soil to dry then water again with lots of nutes which would take a little bit to take affect and im guessing it would die, however if the problem is nutes and i add more nutes is the risk less than starving of food and survivable?
 

greasemonkeymann

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i usually don't feed at all until the flowering phase if i use a soil that is enriched (fox farm, roots, etc).
from the pics it looks like too much heat and possibly overfertilizing, the fox farm retains much of the fertilizer and sometimes builds too much salt, also flushing too much can cause root rot and soil tension, don't get me wrong i flush once a week, but i am extremely skimpy on the fertilizer and it'll sound arrogant but i haven't met anyone with better end product.
In a season i only fertilize four times, and @ half strength.
 

greasemonkeymann

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i wouldn't feed them, something else is the problem. I've never seen a plant needing food that exhibits those attributes, i have seen hundreds od plants that do that from over-feeding.
 

killz

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well ive just watered it with plain water i think 3 times now the third putting 3 and a half gallons of water through it and it had a lot of run off which had a good yellow tint to it, dont know if that was a thorough enough flush or not though, from what ive read and learned really your supposed to do 3 gallons to every gallon of soil or something along those lines which means id atleast have to put like 9 gallons of water?... so if it doesnt need a flush and needs food and i flush it, at the pace its going itd probably be passed the point of ability to recover since id have to wait for the soil to dry then water again with lots of nutes which would take a little bit to take affect and im guessing it would die, however if the problem is nutes and i add more nutes is the risk less than starving of food and survivable?
can you post some pics of what they look like now?

I'm going to water the shit out of mine again and hope that it clears up.
 

stickyickyoohwee

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without the soil even drying out the plant is very weak, more leaves are doing the same thing on top main cola and around on the plant, and hairs are turning more and more, but bud growth staying at a stop, its not too much heat it stays 70-74 at night and right at 80 during the day with the light 2 feet over the top of the plant, dont see it being root rot cause i water it then wait for the soil to completely dry out (light to the lift), before watering it but not long enough to where it droops or anything.. so if it is over fertilizing then why hasnt the plain water and a flush helped?
 

stickyickyoohwee

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killz... what i wrote about the 3 times watered with plain water was the last 3 times, and the pics are all from after them.. 2 times just plain water and the 3rd time flushed with 3 and a half gallons... either later today or tomorrow i will have to water it again, but dont know if it needs plain water and a bigger flush or to be fed and either one could cause it to just die if im wrong for the amount of time id have to wait to water it again a week later and then it take a week for which ever thing i decided to do to take affect
 

killz

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gotcha... I just flushed mine last night and holy shit! they are all reaching to the sky now. I don't think the one flush solved the problem but I know it helped. Or at least it looked like it helped, fuck man, I may have killed them
 
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