FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

eastcoastmo

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4 months!? i don't think that long surely...... shit you're right aren't you..... november, december, january = bud + Feb = Bud........ GULP!...... She will be a bit large for my liking.... see how i go. Might have to Bonzai her and train her along a rail or something... i'll have some fun, see if i can hide it too.



lol thanx mate! they were some small plants but kept my mrs and i happy for weeks :) actually my mrs preferred that smoke over my indoor at the time as that was too strong and made her think too much!? heh chicks. Talk too much more like it. kiiiiiiiding all the ganja babes out there!

Yeah i've used hydro nutrients many times outside, i think the last run i did had 5 plants of that skunk..... the 3 were organic and i had another 2 larger ones that were a few weeks ahead for some earlier smoke and they were force fed hydro nutrients, and i agree that those turned out a little more potent and to my liking. A better more sweet aroma also. However, the organic were a little more harsh and 'pine tasting' the hydro being an almost custom musky yet citrus skunk smell to them. All in all it was amazing to see the same strain that i grew indoors outside and get amazingly different results because of climate conditions, medium i used and weather variables. I notice a hotter climate produces more potent more resinous product.

When it comes time for FLOWERING !!!

One thing i will say is when i learnt how to grow indoors is when it came time to set flowering height and positioning, i was thinking the canopy was far too close to be safe to the light.... I WAS WRONG. ALWAYS TEST WITH YOUR HANDS TO SEE IF IT'S COMFORTABLE FOR ATLEAST 1 MINUTE UNDER THE LAMP AT CANOPY HEIGHT. The plants can handle heat. Believe me!! but they can't handle TOO MUCH LIGHT. But in order to get MONSTER colas, you HAVE TO HAVE YOUR LAMP AS CLOSE AS SAFELY POSSIBLE. I MEAN AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN HAVE IT WITHOUT STRESSING THE PLANT. With good ventilation you can get by with extra heat and more lumens per square inch. But always test, and maximize your output!! I see too many WATT WASTERS!!! Use the spread of the lamps output, think of why some lights have reflectors. To MAXIMIZE spread so coverage is more even over a given area. The fact is the only position where the lamps output is at maximum efficiency is quite a small and limited area, as to why i scrog the way and shape i do. The lamp is most efficient given the output at around 10-16 inches. NO MORE. If you trail away from that, do not expect colas the size of your fist, the light output simply is not enough. A NEW lamp will also run 2-3 degrees cooler than another lamp that is 30 days old. I've seen the tests.

Where did all that come from?! dribblin away, but hopefully some useful info for some :) The hydro shops are either gonna hate me or love me....

Sweet dude, sometimes i even prefer outdoor hey, depends if ive grown it or not lol. I usually use all organic nutrients (way too fuckin expensive for what they are though) which have always given me a good tasting smoke, i now just use flairform nutes and organic bud enhancers (psychobud) which works just as well!

So keen to see how big your girl gets man, the size of her already tells me she will be big, only think restricting her is the pot size ;) f she was in the ground she would be an absolute monster! You could try training her along the fence and pin her to it loosely..ive done it in the past and the plant stayed about 1ft off the pot but stretched about 1.5m in either direction haha.

Good advice about canopy control too, that will be something i'll have to keep an eye on!!
 

flowamasta

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Sweet dude, sometimes i even prefer outdoor hey, depends if ive grown it or not lol. I usually use all organic nutrients (way too fuckin expensive for what they are though) which have always given me a good tasting smoke, i now just use flairform nutes and organic bud enhancers (psychobud) which works just as well!

So keen to see how big your girl gets man, the size of her already tells me she will be big, only think restricting her is the pot size ;) f she was in the ground she would be an absolute monster! You could try training her along the fence and pin her to it loosely..ive done it in the past and the plant stayed about 1ft off the pot but stretched about 1.5m in either direction haha.

Good advice about canopy control too, that will be something i'll have to keep an eye on!!
Gotta love what the sun can do :) you just can't beat it. I don't think it matter what nutrients you give them, as long as you don't give too much they seem to do great round these parts.... Mine will stay in the pot incase i need to move her, it's a 36 litre so it should have ample room for even 9 months i would think. Like i said i don't want her too big! lol I already have to make up stories over the fence.!!

Some more Bud Porn for a new page :) Just foolin round with my camera and some different temp settings. Amazing to see how different it looks in different lighting and exposure times :)

 

Scrogreen

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Thanx mate :) i try my best to read my grows, you can tell alot by the stance and vigor of your plant, and after examining further seeing some spotting on some dying leaves that gave me the go ahead for treatment for root rot or res slime....

LOL ;) gotta love the XL, just have to get her a little bigger and some more leaves yet to create a solid buffer, the plant needs to be robust, bushy and very healthy before i attempt XL but only a few mere days away. Flat out from here on i guarantee.

Thanx again for the compliments!



Great solid question and compliment :) some people say don't flush..... you know what? i don't smoke that erb, tried it, it's comparing butter and cream.

The sock is a mild fabric, it breathes very well, and yes roots do grow though the bottom of the sock, but only during the last few weeks would it reach that far, being almost sealed that far down and completely dark the roots stay moist and healthy but don't grow root hairs ( no need for stability ) They are just in continuous search of more water. Being 100% Perlite and very coarse with sizes ranging from the size of a pea to a thumb nail. and they allow ALOT of room for growing roots, they spread far and wide, filling the entire 50 litre pot. The Pot sock sits flush on the bottom of the inner pot and has drainage holes around 6mm insize covering the entire bottom of the sock. Then drain down 4 corner holes around 8cm diameter into the outer pot and down the return line gravity fed back to the res. The entire pot system Must be above the top of your nutrient level to maintain no stagnant water.


She is isn't she :) Hey i appreciate that! reason why i'm doing this is other styles of growing can be fairly hit and miss. This is easy to maintain, reliable and very VERY consistent. If i can get more people out there growing better quality meds so they don't need to smoke as much then thats a massive bonus for me! Quite frankly the commersh erb around lately that i bump into is almost rubbish. Where's the shiny resin? the smell? and why is some wet still!? Some of these 'growers' need to take a hard look at what they're doing before they try get their product out there, i mean wouldn't they prefer GOOD FEEDBACK?? I know if i got a quart off someone in the past and it was shite then i move along... I've seen shit dried in bunches dried in grow rooms with 6 x 600 watt HPS glowing away till it turns crispified..... i've seen it all. It disgusts me it really does. I'm so glad that there are many connoisseurs out there like me that get it for the quality and grow for the quality! I know Gorge Cervantes wouldn't waste his lungs on an 'average erb' There is a difference between top shelf and bottom and geeez i wish that was obvious to all

Everyone keep up the great work! It's the guys checkin up on these sights growin the Dank after all ;) I mean research research..... The ones who don't care about quality erb aren't on these sites, cause they are too busy scratching their heads wondering why their shits gone to..... well shit!? commersh do it 1 way, WE GOTTA DO IT ANOTHER. IT'S ONLY RIGHT FOR THE MARIJUANA GODS
I couldnt agree more bro! At the same time its hard to find people who can grow real dang willing to help out the little guys tryn to get there. Im sure everyone will agree with me when I say thank you for your thoughts and input!

And now another question from one of the small guys. haha. So Im more of the over thinker when it comes to growing but I try to run with it. So Im setting up a program for my logging and I have put together 15 questions that i will anwser everyday. Would like to know what you think and if you think I missed anything important.
1. Does she look happy?

2. Current, high and low temps?

3. Humidity %?

4. How tall?

5. How wide?

6. How deep?

7. How far away from the light?

8. Color of the old and new leaves?

9. Is new air reaching all parts of the plant?

10. Are the leaves perky or droopy?

11. Any signs of mold/mildew or insects?

If so start evasive maneuvers!

12. Water level in res?

13. PPM in res?

14. PH is res?

15. Is all equipment clean and running as it should?


Smoke easy flow!
 

eastcoastmo

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Holy shit Flowa, how frosty are those nugs in the first photos! They look almost like they have a dusting of snow on them haha. That's bloody amazing bro!

Totally agree about the sun dude and also about the nutes on outdoorys, the less the better. I only ever get to half strength during veg and about 3/4 when in full bloom! Could probably even go a bit less actually :)
 

Scrogreen

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Holy shit Flowa, how frosty are those nugs in the first photos! They look almost like they have a dusting of snow on them haha. That's bloody amazing bro!

Totally agree about the sun dude and also about the nutes on outdoorys, the less the better. I only ever get to half strength during veg and about 3/4 when in full bloom! Could probably even go a bit less actually :)
I know right? Im gettn high just looking at that frost!
 

flowamasta

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magnifique!!!!
Thankyou kindly!!

I couldnt agree more bro! At the same time its hard to find people who can grow real dang willing to help out the little guys tryn to get there. Im sure everyone will agree with me when I say thank you for your thoughts and input!

And now another question from one of the small guys. haha. So Im more of the over thinker when it comes to growing but I try to run with it. So Im setting up a program for my logging and I have put together 15 questions that i will anwser everyday. Would like to know what you think and if you think I missed anything important.
1. Does she look happy?

2. Current, high and low temps?

3. Humidity %?

4. How tall?

5. How wide?

6. How deep?

7. How far away from the light?

8. Color of the old and new leaves?

9. Is new air reaching all parts of the plant?

10. Are the leaves perky or droopy?

11. Any signs of mold/mildew or insects?

If so start evasive maneuvers!

12. Water level in res?

13. PPM in res?

14. PH is res?

15. Is all equipment clean and running as it should?


Smoke easy flow!
:) Much appreciated man! gotta get the word out there :)

I'll answer like this:


  • 1. Does she look happy?
    She look incredibly happy. Not 100% health, and i have snipped alot of lower growth of, there's too much plant as it is, i just need her to stretch now :) cloning time soon!

    2. Current, high and low temps?
    currently 21.9

    3. Humidity %?
    Max gets around 28 degrees c and around 20 ambient... here's a pic off the phone at current temp.
    Near perfect 59-60%




    4. How tall?
    From Base of stem to tips around 16 inches or so

    5. How wide?
    1.2 metres

    6. How deep?
    Lost me....... sorry! I'll try.... What you see growing here is not my canopy height, i'm just spreading to get some room so when i clone i can have some more room for more Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuud :p

    7. How far away from the light?
    I measured 90cm to glass hood.

    8. Color of the old and new leaves?
    The older leaves are a lighter green with some yellowish dying off. New growth is perfect :)

    9. Is new air reaching all parts of the plant?
    New air is reaching everywhere.

    10. Are the leaves perky or droopy?
    They are relaxed, her transition back to veg is a complete success and she's back to throwing out 3 bladed fans, back to her usual stride now. I'm keeping her on a mild diet until next feed which will be a good kick in the res. Including XL This will happen on sunday i think, she will be Huge. So neither droopy nor perky.

    11. Any signs of mold/mildew or insects?
    I had 1 spider mite on the small clone i snipped a couple of weeks ago. 1...! I took both plants out, soaked them with garlic and chilli spray which you might be able to see in some pics, some residue was left behind. but i soak the plant with fresh water 2 hours after the soak that washes off anything that might burn during lights on and high temps.
    I'm careful, had white flies nearly every grow, but not this time touch wood.... spider mites will be watched out for bigtime.

    If so start evasive maneuvers!

    12. Water level in res?
    about 8 inches up, (45 litre res)

    13. PPM in res?
    - Cyco flower is way over the chart from what i've heard, not worth checking in my system, Ph is more crucial, even then i can read the plant pretty well. so i haven't used it since last grow using XL as it drops to around 2-3 PH

    14. PH is res?
    5.5-6.8

    15. Is all equipment clean and running as it should?
    You bet. New pump, new hoses, lines, lamp, nutrients, air cooled hood 6 inch fan and even a Brand new Sea Hawk Tent. also running 2 new carbon filters. Also a Moretti Evaporative Air conditioner. for cooling and humidity.



 

Scrogreen

Active Member
Thankyou kindly!!



:) Much appreciated man! gotta get the word out there :)

I'll answer like this:


  • 1. Does she look happy?
    She look incredibly happy. Not 100% health, and i have snipped alot of lower growth of, there's too much plant as it is, i just need her to stretch now :) cloning time soon!

    2. Current, high and low temps?
    currently 21.9

    3. Humidity %?
    Max gets around 28 degrees c and around 20 ambient... here's a pic off the phone at current temp.
    Near perfect 59-60%




    4. How tall?
    From Base of stem to tips around 16 inches or so

    5. How wide?
    1.2 metres

    6. How deep?
    Lost me....... sorry! I'll try.... What you see growing here is not my canopy height, i'm just spreading to get some room so when i clone i can have some more room for more Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuud :p

    7. How far away from the light?
    I measured 90cm to glass hood.

    8. Color of the old and new leaves?
    The older leaves are a lighter green with some yellowish dying off. New growth is perfect :)

    9. Is new air reaching all parts of the plant?
    New air is reaching everywhere.

    10. Are the leaves perky or droopy?
    They are relaxed, her transition back to veg is a complete success and she's back to throwing out 3 bladed fans, back to her usual stride now. I'm keeping her on a mild diet until next feed which will be a good kick in the res. Including XL This will happen on sunday i think, she will be Huge. So neither droopy nor perky.

    11. Any signs of mold/mildew or insects?
    I had 1 spider mite on the small clone i snipped a couple of weeks ago. 1...! I took both plants out, soaked them with garlic and chilli spray which you might be able to see in some pics, some residue was left behind. but i soak the plant with fresh water 2 hours after the soak that washes off anything that might burn during lights on and high temps.
    I'm careful, had white flies nearly every grow, but not this time touch wood.... spider mites will be watched out for bigtime.

    If so start evasive maneuvers!

    12. Water level in res?
    about 8 inches up, (45 litre res)

    13. PPM in res?
    - Cyco flower is way over the chart from what i've heard, not worth checking in my system, Ph is more crucial, even then i can read the plant pretty well. so i haven't used it since last grow using XL as it drops to around 2-3 PH

    14. PH is res?
    5.5-6.8

    15. Is all equipment clean and running as it should?
    You bet. New pump, new hoses, lines, lamp, nutrients, air cooled hood 6 inch fan and even a Brand new Sea Hawk Tent. also running 2 new carbon filters. Also a Moretti Evaporative Air conditioner. for cooling and humidity.



wow hahaha! I wasnt meaning for you to answer all those but thats awesome! Is there anything else you look ay with your plants besides those questions? Rock out wit your cock out! hahahahahah
 

Mohican

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Hey FlowaMasta - Your meter reads 3 weeks - what kind of meter is that? Very cool :)


Yesterday the Big Clone hit 180 days outside in the trashcan.


Here is one of her colas:






Cheers,
Mo
 

PutItInTheBowl

Active Member
This is a badass thread I'm gonna keep pokin in on it and keep getting awesome tips and tricks from some great growers thanks all you contributors and u FM for starting your thread!
 

flowamasta

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wow hahaha! I wasnt meaning for you to answer all those but thats awesome! Is there anything else you look ay with your plants besides those questions? Rock out wit your cock out! hahahahahah
lol :) best to answer them i thought, i mean it is my methodology and there may be others out there curious as to if i actually take notice in that sort of thing ;) Not just a freak after all he says..... :p I'll try to remember as i go.

Hey FlowaMaster - my ugly flower reveg clone is doing great:


Was:







Now:











Cheers,
Mo
No kidding!! Thanx =, The perfect contribution to my thread even if it is outdoor grown!! totally welcome. Most insane and idolized.
Hey FlowaMasta - Your meter reads 3 weeks - what kind of meter is that? Very cool :)


Yesterday the Big Clone hit 180 days outside in the trashcan.


Here is one of her colas:






Cheers,
Mo
Lol haha you seen that did you..... The thing is, my memory is crap. That thing is my failsafe for my memory lol i reset for the grow and she keeps track, although last grow i think something dodgy happened it lost time at some stage and i had to get the callendar out again. Very handy telling me i'm in whatever week.
Ouch :p Baseball bat and then some lol

Nice work Slanty!! i dint have any influence on the size of that jungle did i ;) just incredible! have fun losing your hands in there! I'm sure there's defense mechanisms growing in there :p

This is a badass thread I'm gonna keep pokin in on it and keep getting awesome tips and tricks from some great growers thanks all you contributors and u FM for starting your thread!
Awesome compliment mate!! welcome to the New Age Of Ganja Growing.! (Well actually it's back to basics old school but it's going back i tell ya!!)
 

^Slanty

Active Member
Nice work Slanty!! i dint have any influence on the size of that jungle did i ;) just incredible! have fun losing your hands in there! I'm sure there's defense mechanisms growing in there :p
Just trying to see what this UC setup can really do! Talking about baseball bats; did you see the size of that stalk at the base! Less than 1/2 an inch til it touches the sides of my netpot! Not too shabby for a 30 day veg!(and I think I can cut that down next round)

I think I can confidently say that I used up every square inch of space in my bud area!
 

ThegrowerMOJO

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You don't think your going to run into issues keeping the root mass healthy for another 2 months?I believe your right in your thinking of cutting veg time down,i will follow along as i'm curious how that dense jungle turns out.Props though on the tree trunk :bigjoint:
 

flowamasta

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looks amazing, as usual. lol. how long have you been growing flowa?
Thanx mate :)

In general? or for this grow? this grow is on day 16 today since i transplanted the clone, the plant was growing slowly under some gro-lux tubes for around 9-10 weeks to keep her alive. I have been growing indoors for around 2 years, I've had 2 breaks where i stopped growing, felt lost so got back into it and started experimenting more with concentrates and thought..... 'why not eh?' i'm rarely short of erb, and haven't run out since i started growing, that's the main thing!!!

Day 16.... pics were taken yesterday before i passed out and forgot what planet i was on.



Here is my Outdoor, she's begun flowering for sure,.... x your fingers, i can go up a pot size if i really had to, and i was thinking if i need to hide her i'll just set up a camping tent and make it look like i've been outside sleeping ;) not their business :p (landlords)

 

Mohican

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Hey FlowaMasta,

I need one of those meters! What is is called?

Thanks for the compliment but the girls are growing outside. It is the plant that is amazing not me. Did you see my trim macros on my thread? Used an extra light and my tripod to get some FlowaMasta style shots. Some are posed on a catalog from Fender Guitars and the others on the lid of a canning jar.

How is the weather there? Is it getting warm yet or is it all rainy and gray? It has gotten up to 90 degrees here and zero % RH!

Your outdoor girl is going to go nuts! I wonder if you clipped off the flowers if it would reveg faster? You know me, always trying some weird process to see what happens :)

Cheers,
Mo
 

eastcoastmo

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Wicked Flowie they're looking great! Indoory really has that vigor to her now :) outdoory i was sure was going to reveg...ah well, at least she'll have 4 months to mature lol
 
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