FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

Scrogreen

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Thanx man!! You wait till flowering ;)


lol :) glad you liked it, wasn't sure if anyone was interested!

gotta check this out guys!!! space jump !! Live right now!!!


[video=youtube;MrIxH6DToXQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrIxH6DToXQ&feature=player_embedded[/video]
Thats AWESOME!!!!! Its sweet you got to see that.
 

Scrogreen

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Hey flow I was wondering if I could get your take on how you cure and dry. We all focus on the growing part and we all know if you dont dry it right it doent matter how big it was. So with you having some of the best bud around whats your meathod? I normaly just line hang for a few days then slow dry in jars but I feel like there is better ways. Thanks!
 

eastcoastmo

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Current feeding schedule: CYCOFLOWER.Ratings all at ml per litre.

Grow A + B = 2ml

B1 Boost = 1ml

Silica = 1ml

Dr. Repair ( cal/mag and nitrogen boost ) = easy fix for deficiency with balanced PH buffers safe to use at 2ml. 1.5ml currently to up the mag to compensate for loss from transplant or mild shock.

& Floralicious from General Hydroponics. ( humic acid which oxygenates the nutrients and adds micro-organisms. ) = .25ml That equates to 10ml for my 40 litre res. Very potent rich formula so stir in well and make sure you have an airstone to keep agitated.

If you know of the Cyco regime, you may notice my list lacks uptake and Zyme. I don't like them, the Uptake is cheap and watery and the zyme always left my res feeling slimy. The B1 Boost and Dr. Repair is plenty of back up nitrogen and the base food has plenty of vitamins for root growth, so i thought to myself why have it at all, tried it once 2 grows ago and haven't looked back. My results changed dramatically. A much tastier Erb.

This can and does alternate according to how i read my plant, so stay tuned!!
cheers legend! Are you able to tell me (again, sorry mate!) what bloom nutes you use. So far i remember bloom a+b, potash, swell and sugar rush...am i missing something?? Im goin to go put all this stuff on hold at the shop so i can pick it up early in the new year :)
 

flowamasta

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Hey flow I was wondering if I could get your take on how you cure and dry. We all focus on the growing part and we all know if you dont dry it right it doent matter how big it was. So with you having some of the best bud around whats your meathod? I normaly just line hang for a few days then slow dry in jars but I feel like there is better ways. Thanks!
I agree with line drying, i lay the small stuff in my green net. You can't beat line drying for that perfect cola look :) I'll take some snaps of some primos tonight with the update! Curing in Jars is a must :) Good man, replace the air every 6 hours or so kinda thing, and let the sit all night closed up in the dark. You get more stink out of the bud in my opinion.

Thats AWESOME!!!!! Its sweet you got to see that.
I was amazed i was awake and didnt miss a thing! i was watching both live US and the Aus version 30 mins behind. That guy is a living legend!. WOW.


cheers legend! Are you able to tell me (again, sorry mate!) what bloom nutes you use. So far i remember bloom a+b, potash, swell and sugar rush...am i missing something?? Im goin to go put all this stuff on hold at the shop so i can pick it up early in the new year :)
You are correct.

Bloom A+B, potash first 3 weeks, swell after week 3, Dr. repair if needed, don't hit it with B1 boost in flowering i really see no point unless you want a bright green plant when you goto dry! Yes and suga rush. I quite like the pineapple rush from General hydro aswell. Both nice additives and not overwhelming. People swear it's genuine Jack Herer with the strong citrus after taste and insane buzz! :eyesmoke:
 

Scrogreen

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I agree with line drying, i lay the small stuff in my green net. You can't beat line drying for that perfect cola look :) I'll take some snaps of some primos tonight with the update! Curing in Jars is a must :) Good man, replace the air every 6 hours or so kinda thing, and let the sit all night closed up in the dark. You get more stink out of the bud in my opinion.



I was amazed i was awake and didnt miss a thing! i was watching both live US and the Aus version 30 mins behind. That guy is a living legend!. WOW.
Well At least I know Im doing something right! haha

That dudes name will live forever!
 

^Slanty

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I have a question for the masta and others......

How thick/full is too much? This current grow I have going now, well how do I put it, is just mad!! The first round using UC was a bit of a learning curve, but now that I have eliminated all organic material from my system, the results are beyond words! Roots are pure white and MASSIVE! Growth rate is out of this world! I have 2 plants, and they have been drinking 6-8 gallons per day for the past week now! I go in and prune leaves at will, and then come back the next day to a canopy that looks like I was never there the day before!

My question is though, how full of a plant is too full and going to hamper my yield? I have never in my years of growing ever grown plants with such vigor and health and think I need to do a major prune job before I flip. I need to flip this week though, as I am getting scared of how full the canopy is already and I can only raise my 2 lights another ~18 inches or so.(shouldn't be a big issue for height as the clone didn't stretch much if at all in transition last round.

Any insight would be stellar! I will post some updated pictures tomorrow to show you what I mean. I left the camera at the mrs. this weekend and couldn't take any tonight. :(

ps. I can barely close my hand around the stalk and the plants are ~1.5 feet tall! :shock:
pss. I really wish that FM and myself could compare the results from the 2 different grow methods. Both seem to be the top niche of hydro though to say the least! Unfortunately, due to having different lighting in itself wouldn't be close enough of a comparison for most. Cheers my green thumbed brother from down under!
 

eastcoastmo

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I agree with line drying, i lay the small stuff in my green net. You can't beat line drying for that perfect cola look :) I'll take some snaps of some primos tonight with the update! Curing in Jars is a must :) Good man, replace the air every 6 hours or so kinda thing, and let the sit all night closed up in the dark. You get more stink out of the bud in my opinion.



I was amazed i was awake and didnt miss a thing! i was watching both live US and the Aus version 30 mins behind. That guy is a living legend!. WOW.




You are correct.

Bloom A+B, potash first 3 weeks, swell after week 3, Dr. repair if needed, don't hit it with B1 boost in flowering i really see no point unless you want a bright green plant when you goto dry! Yes and suga rush. I quite like the pineapple rush from General hydro aswell. Both nice additives and not overwhelming. People swear it's genuine Jack Herer with the strong citrus after taste and insane buzz! :eyesmoke:
Thanks heaps mate! Really looking forward to using your method hey! Just a tad excited :lol:
 

eastcoastmo

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Hey bro, what's your opinion on hermie seeds? Ive got a stack of some of the best looking seeds ive ever seen off a plant that got stressed and hermied on me. I havent had the heart to throw them away as they came from a plant with old school top genetics. Im considering growing one and taking some pollen to seed up a branch on my other similar strain...you reckon it's worth trying or should i just fuck the seeds off all together?
 

flowamasta

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I have a question for the masta and others......

How thick/full is too much? This current grow I have going now, well how do I put it, is just mad!! The first round using UC was a bit of a learning curve, but now that I have eliminated all organic material from my system, the results are beyond words! Roots are pure white and MASSIVE! Growth rate is out of this world! I have 2 plants, and they have been drinking 6-8 gallons per day for the past week now! I go in and prune leaves at will, and then come back the next day to a canopy that looks like I was never there the day before!

My question is though, how full of a plant is too full and going to hamper my yield? I have never in my years of growing ever grown plants with such vigor and health and think I need to do a major prune job before I flip. I need to flip this week though, as I am getting scared of how full the canopy is already and I can only raise my 2 lights another ~18 inches or so.(shouldn't be a big issue for height as the clone didn't stretch much if at all in transition last round.

Any insight would be stellar! I will post some updated pictures tomorrow to show you what I mean. I left the camera at the mrs. this weekend and couldn't take any tonight. :(

ps. I can barely close my hand around the stalk and the plants are ~1.5 feet tall! :shock:
pss. I really wish that FM and myself could compare the results from the 2 different grow methods. Both seem to be the top niche of hydro though to say the least! Unfortunately, due to having different lighting in itself wouldn't be close enough of a comparison for most. Cheers my green thumbed brother from down under!
Hey Slanty! great question! and i think i can answer it.. If you look at some growth during the first stages of flowering and some isn't as nice green, and spindly growing with not much tightness going on... I snip them off. I make room up top by spreading things out even if it's messy, it looks neat-ish in the end. You can be too bushy... and by seeing your plants last time, i'd say you coiuld be going down that path!! Too bushy plants don't breath, hold bacteria and fungus, and just plain outright room hoggers. There are a few who 'mainline' I think some go a bit over-board and not necessary to do everything but the tops.... once you start cleaning up a majority of the once were smalls will then turn into bigger, soon to be beautifuls :)

If you are lifting up leaves and some are wet.. start to think about worrying and preventing further i'd say! That is a sign of a not breathing plant. Moisture like that is ok in veg.... come flower, a whole new ball game..

You will really be able to tell when flowering is a couple of weeks in and see the buds sizes and progress throught the grow-room. I get a few different characteristic heads in my tent, and would you believe they almost always end up in the same spot!

Thanks heaps mate! Really looking forward to using your method hey! Just a tad excited :lol:
Hey bro, what's your opinion on hermie seeds? Ive got a stack of some of the best looking seeds ive ever seen off a plant that got stressed and hermied on me. I havent had the heart to throw them away as they came from a plant with old school top genetics. Im considering growing one and taking some pollen to seed up a branch on my other similar strain...you reckon it's worth trying or should i just fuck the seeds off all together?
My original skunk had a slight hermie trait but only under stress. If you are careful with some hermie strains, they can be the best. I've had hermie smoke i thought was laced!! lol I tend to stay clear from hermies as the big seeds arentt the only ones you can see. Once a plant has hermied and seeded it can grow miniature tiny brown seeds throughout ALL the buds. Not just big noticeable ones. They can change the entire flavour, and be a nasty hidden surprise if you didn't catch it early on.

Seeds scare me. I've grown some insanely great outdoor smoke from seeds, but it's not a guarantee i can wager on, i like quick easy clones, one day i will give my skunk seed another go! I got 1 nice apple seed from my old outdoor of my last strain... ( maybe w.w. deinite skunk to it though so could be wrong )
 

flowamasta

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Day 4 Veg :)

Training time. ALREADY!!!!???

get some thin wire, and bend away! make some long hooks and hook them under the rim of the pot. This is to create my beginning arms that will create my entire bushes profile. These will grow up, be trained and topped even further.

 

eastcoastmo

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Looking awesome already man :)

cheers for your opinion too mate, i'm thinking i may try one and see how it goes and if it turns out hermie i'll ditch the rest! Will be an interesting experience i guess lol.

Two of my biggest and best plants i grew from a female that produced 4 almost black seeds. I would really love to get that shit again but alas DJ short doesnt have them any more :(
 

flowamasta

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gotta love the big apple seeds :p

Here we are at day 6 vegging. Things got a little out of ballance so i did an early flush. By out of balance i mean, leaves vigor was deteriating and there was a slight loss in colour, It should hold now, all the new growth is perky and fresh bright green. She's taking off now. There is no stopping her.

Got some nice nug shots of what i'm smoking on :) A priiiiimo UVB cola, down to about the halfway mark, where you pull the nug open and inside is nothing but mature ripe trichomes and mass stickiness! Enjoy. Also a couple of shots of my outdoor after some hardcore Lst'ying

 

Mohican

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Which one is in and which one is out? hehe


That is some nice green you have on your crystals! I want to see some pure white hash from that stuff!


Mmmmmmm hash :)


Cheers,
Mo
 

eastcoastmo

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Haha lol Mo, nice green on your crystals :lol: soooo true though, they are some damn frosty nugs you got there Flowa!

Even your outdoory is looking great too :)
 

flowamasta

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very nice. how many uv bulbs do u have in there? are the results noticeable?
Thankyou :) I use 1 UVB lamp, i notice a huuuuuge difference over the mainly expose heads. Resin content, and flavour change character dramatically. I keep forgetting, not morning smoke. Can't do anything on it and your eyes...... dead giveaway if you can open them that is Bloodshot red stoney eyes TO THE MAX. A1 Sleep meds for sure. Huge content of amber resin and alot more densly packed on those buds.

Which one is in and which one is out? hehe


That is some nice green you have on your crystals! I want to see some pure white hash from that stuff!


Mmmmmmm hash :)


Cheers,
Mo
lol :) good one Mo!, Ohh he slipped another in there :p I did a white hash run i believe a few grows ago, i had to use the 20 micron bag and got almost pure white/creamy hash! So it is possible, however i have enough hash and erb for a bit now :p Put it this way..... I've NEVER been this whacked in all my life. This erb is so intoxicating i wish i could take it everywhere and share it with everyone! People can pull out top grade nug, and just the smell alone from a baggie will most likely over-power the other top grade smell. It's Putrid, my mates tell me they have no clue how i get away with the smell. I just think it's because it's looked after so it produced the best that it could, or maybe i had it in such harsh conditions that it forces more resin on the plant in order to protect itself against my dry storm environment. I guess noone will ever know for sure, but in my heart I'm so proud of it i treasure each inhalation :)

I will keep this strain going for a while longer, i think my neighbours honestly think that the smell is coming from the strange plants around our yard... come to think of it, we do have a type of pine tree that oooozes heaps of that sappy stuff and the tree does give off quite a unique citrus/jack semi smell kinda.. and lavender bushes everywhere

Morning rant

Good Morning Mo and everyone or whatever the time maybe wherever you all are!

Haha lol Mo, nice green on your crystals :lol: soooo true though, they are some damn frosty nugs you got there Flowa!

Even your outdoory is looking great too :)
Haha thanx man they are my fave nugs for sure.... between my mrs and I we haven't even smoked 4 grams for the week you have 1 and you walk away.... You Walk away!! or you goto sleep it's quite simple really. 1 Bong relaxation and 2 bongs semi-hallucinogenic for maybe 5 minutes before heavy skunk induced coma lol You bump off walls and forget to breathe ;)

Memories........



 
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