floramite or avid?
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OGEvilgenius
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Avid is extremely toxic. If your plants are budding, you should avoid it completely (and if you get a few drops on your skin, go to the hospital). I am not sure what floramite is.
UVC light can work and is not a chemical toxin. It is quite dangerous as well and the proper precautions should be taken.
UVC light can work and is not a chemical toxin. It is quite dangerous as well and the proper precautions should be taken.
Metasynth
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Then don't even consider avid or floramite.
nastynate420
Active Member
You can give Azamax or Azatrol a try but if that doesnt work you might be up shits creek!
I have used Floromite in the 3rd week of flower before without ill effects.
Ive been using Azamax as a preventative this past run so cant help ya out much there.
Id hit em with Floromite otherwise you'll be fighting with them forever!
I KNOW floromite works!!... I dont have faith in the organic ways yet!
I have used Floromite in the 3rd week of flower before without ill effects.
Ive been using Azamax as a preventative this past run so cant help ya out much there.
Id hit em with Floromite otherwise you'll be fighting with them forever!
I KNOW floromite works!!... I dont have faith in the organic ways yet!
nastynate420
Active Member
I used to alternate floromite with Forbid to help keep the mites from building up immunities
Well, now you've seen how all the *feel good* remedies work.
All that's really left is Floramite, Avid, or Forbid (my favorite). All are too toxic to use in flower. Forbid for example uses a dilution of 1/8tsp/gallon (~5 drops).
Next time, use one of these and spray a day or 2 before you flip to 12/12.
Nothing to offer for your present situation.
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OGEvilgenius
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UVC light will kill them and their eggs. It will take more time to do it this way and you should take appropriate precautions. Make sure you cover every inch for at least a few seconds (I'd go a bit longer). You can get UVC lights if you search with relative ease. Like I said, do not expose yourself to it. You can get cancer quick with any exposure. A highly directed light is necessary as well as good cover. They will also completely destroy your eye sight. They will kill the eggs and mites though. Can damage your plant with too much exposure as well. But short term directed is not so bad.
dbkick
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if you've used mighty wash and still have eggs then you aren't applying the mighty wash completely because IF it contacts a live mite OR an egg both are dead. complete and thorough and you'll kill every mite, without some type of device (I'm whipping out the airless paint sprayer tomorrow) you'll be doing a lot of work, I own a atomist and can pretty well cover my grow in under a minute , it turns leafs like you wouldn't believe but I think it's too harsh and am going to try the airless paint sprayer tomorrow, this will be precise and efficient . I've settled for extreme control because eradication doesn't seem possible, I live in a area these pest love but I know one room they aren't gonna be comfy in soon. I've been using pyganic and at 180 bux a quart I'm not that impressed with it, mighty wash isn't cheap either but I know where I'm putting my money from now on.
nastynate420
Active Member
HELL YEAH WEAR A MASK!! I suit up when i spray
jessy koons
New Member
Both Avid and Floramite are too toxic to use on cannabis. Neither one is to be used on consumable plants, they are for ornamental plants only. People who use these products on their cannabis do so because they don't understand how toxic and persistent these things are. Both of these act systemically and will persist in the plant tissue for months. Floramite is registered for use on fruit trees but only if they will not be bearing fruit for consumption for 12 months.
Mites are difficult to get rid of when they are well established, but not too difficult to keep off of new plants.Azamax is very effective if used correctly.You must be consistent with your spray schedule or you'll never have any success. You are in a difficult situation right now because you're infested and in flower.
You can control them now but you won't be able to get rid of them completely. You probably know this already but I'll say it anyways. Put 90% of your attention to the underside of the leaves; this where they live, breed, and lay eggs. If a leaf shows signs of mite damage then you can be sure that there are eggs there too. I usually remove any leaves that show signs of mites but that is very difficult if the infestation is well established and is detrimental if the plant is in flower as it will reduce yield. It is crucial to your success that mite infestations are eliminated during the vegetative phase so that you won't have to deal with it in the flowering phase. Good luck
Mites are difficult to get rid of when they are well established, but not too difficult to keep off of new plants.Azamax is very effective if used correctly.You must be consistent with your spray schedule or you'll never have any success. You are in a difficult situation right now because you're infested and in flower.
You can control them now but you won't be able to get rid of them completely. You probably know this already but I'll say it anyways. Put 90% of your attention to the underside of the leaves; this where they live, breed, and lay eggs. If a leaf shows signs of mite damage then you can be sure that there are eggs there too. I usually remove any leaves that show signs of mites but that is very difficult if the infestation is well established and is detrimental if the plant is in flower as it will reduce yield. It is crucial to your success that mite infestations are eliminated during the vegetative phase so that you won't have to deal with it in the flowering phase. Good luck
dbkick
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if you wanna be cheap about it purespray green, nothing but petroleum oil, the deal is you HAVE to hit them, if you've used all this shit and still have in infestation then you aren't working hard enough at it, do you know what purespray green or any non-toxic oil based insecticide does? it suffocates the little bastards but you HAVE to hit them, the things you say you've been using will do their job IF you do yours and completely and thoroughly apply the product.
Hannibal Cannabinol
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Ummmmm http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_...Rec_Id=PC36422
Top 50 Crops and Sites for Bifenazate( active ingredient in floramite)use in California in 2009
Crop or Site
(Commodity Code)
Gross
Pounds Application Rate
pounds per acre treated
Acres Planted
where all or part
has been sprayed
Acres Treated Application
Count
All Sites (00)
69,337 0.47 222,734 146,898 6,899
Wine Grapes (29143)
18,333 0.46 73,514 40,032 1,178
Strawberries (1016)
17,353 0.49 48,527 35,480 1,254
Almonds (3001)
9,599 0.46 29,589 20,797 358
Table and Raisin Grapes (29141)
8,441 0.49 20,979 17,078 460
Peaches (5004)
3,490 0.48 9,037 7,285 460
Walnuts (3009)
2,398 0.47 7,989 5,056 185
Cherries (5002)
1,826 0.44 5,237 4,142 159
Nectarines (5003)
1,825 0.48 4,742 3,837 262
Prunes (5006)
1,036 0.67 3,026 1,538 53
Plums (5005)
934.0 0.49 2,247 1,914 108
Raspberries (1006)
644.4 0.48 2,668 1,343 144
Tangerines (200
545.0 0.46 1,186 1,180 5
Outdoor Container Nursery (154)
510.8 0.28 6,439 1,723 490
Apples (4001)
357.0 0.47 1,095 764.6 31
Greenhouse Plants (153)
334.3 0.35 756.4 774.5 780
Outdoor Propagation Nursery (156)
286.7 0.49 647.0 587.5 55
Watermelons (1000
183.2 0.47 387.5 387.5 8
Greenhouse Flowers (151)
175.6 0.28 383.3 582.7 437
Apricots (5001)
151.9 0.47 384.8 322.6 12
Bell Peppers (11003)
140.0 0.50 309.0 280.0 2
Cucumbers (10010)
137.8 0.50 334.0 275.5 25
Pears (4003)
113.4 0.40 357.3 284.8 19
Pumpkins (10011)
66.5 0.46 242.9 145.9 4
Landscape (30)
65.1 - - - 112
Tomatoes (11005)
59.8 0.23 125.0 256.4 16
Tomatoes for Processing (29136)
58.1 0.38 165.0 155.0 1
Blackberries (1002)
51.0 0.50 156.1 101.9 16
Outdoor Flower Nursery (152)
48.0 0.19 1,494 237.3 146
Commodity Research (99)
30.3 - - - 33
Cantaloupe (10002)
27.6 0.46 153.0 60.0 1
Eggplant (11001)
26.2 0.44 47.5 60.0 7
Succulent Beans (15003)
26.0 0.50 95.0 52.0 2
Pluot (5505)
19.5 0.50 38.9 38.9 1
Pistachios (3011)
12.5 0.50 295.0 25.0 2
Greenhouse Propagation (155)
9.39 0.20 18.6 47.3 46
Mint (28012)
7.48 0.34 45.0 22.0 1
Unknown (-1)
5.75 0.72 2.00 8.00 10
Chestnuts (3004)
5.62 0.38 16.0 15.0 2
Melons (29122)
2.00 0.25 4.00 8.00 2
Vertebrate Pest Control (80)
0.34 - - - 1
Regulatory (100)
0.24 - - - 11
Why do people speak in complete ignorance?