first time making super soil questions

spazatak

spazatak

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have always guerilla grown and am taking my hobby inside, never used nutes and have always used the earth as my medium..

I have a few questions about making a super soil that I havent quite found the answer to definitively..


1) is it possible to make with coco as the base instead of soil
2) is it possible or easy to burn your plants with an excess of nutrients... that is my biggest fear is having a plant rooted in something that will kill it and being unable to flush it...
3)after reading sub's super soil...he says dont fill up the pot... do you add any nutes before roots hit the SS to assist with early growth
4)is it possible to leave roots in after a run and add to your super soil stock
5) when finished a harvest is it a matter of adding the used SS to your SS stock and replanting with that...
6) Do nutes get washed away over the course of the grow to the point where you need to add some



thanks guys
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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1) yes, but there's some considerations to be aware of. Maybe Don Petro or Don Tesla can pop in and fill you in a bit. They grow in coco.

2) it's possible, but very unlikely. If you let your soil "cook" for at least a month, and you're using a good source of compost/worm castings then you will be fine.

3) no. Your soil should have enough juice to carry you through veg and early flower at a minimum. He suggests leaving room in the container so that you can top dress some new soil and (strain dependent) possibly add a bit more dry organic nutrients.

4) yes. You can leave the root ball in the container, add more soil/organic amendments, and reuse that same soil

5) you could do that, or just do as stated above. You already have a vibrant soil food web in tact in the container, why not just plug another plant right back in there? Either is fine, but it's not necessary to dump the soil out and re mix it.

6) depends. If you're using a decent nozzle end sprayer, and your soil has a good cec, it would be difficult to wash the nutrients out of the soil. This is perhaps where peat is superior to coco. The cec is higher, microbial count probably higher as well, which means the soils ability to store nutrients will be better..... but it's unlikely in any medium that you will run in to issues here IMO.
 
spazatak

spazatak

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st0wandgrow said:
1) yes, but there's some considerations to be aware of. Maybe Don Petro or Don Tesla can pop in and fill you in a bit. They grow in coco.

2) it's possible, but very unlikely. If you let your soil "cook" for at least a month, and you're using a good source of compost/worm castings then you will be fine.

3) no. Your soil should have enough juice to carry you through veg and early flower at a minimum. He suggests leaving room in the container so that you can top dress some new soil and (strain dependent) possibly add a bit more dry organic nutrients.

4) yes. You can leave the root ball in the container, add more soil/organic amendments, and reuse that same soil

5) you could do that, or just do as stated above. You already have a vibrant soil food web in tact in the container, why not just plug another plant right back in there? Either is fine, but it's not necessary to dump the soil out and re mix it.

6) depends. If you're using a decent nozzle end sprayer, and your soil has a good cec, it would be difficult to wash the nutrients out of the soil. This is perhaps where peat is superior to coco. The cec is higher, microbial count probably higher as well, which means the soils ability to store nutrients will be better..... but it's unlikely in any medium that you will run in to issues here IMO.
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great post man

thanks a lot
 
spazatak

spazatak

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bumping this as i have a few more questions.


1)say I mix up soils and its is too heavy in one element... does this neutralise out after a month cooking or do you guys test the PH of your soils..

2) Does leaving your soils out cooking increase the chance of mites etc...

cheers
 
Mr.Head

Mr.Head

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As long as you don't go crazy you should be fine after it cooks.

Leaving your soil outside can yes, you could use semi sealed totes or let your soil sit indoors. If you are going to use the great outdoors I would suggest adding some sort of organic pest control to the soil structure like a neem cake meal or something else. There's a few out there.

I haven't looked into them too much but Nematodes are being pushed hard locally as organic pest control.
 
spazatak

spazatak

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Mr.Head said:
As long as you don't go crazy you should be fine after it cooks.

Leaving your soil outside can yes, you could use semi sealed totes or let your soil sit indoors. If you are going to use the great outdoors I would suggest adding some sort of organic pest control to the soil structure like a neem cake meal or something else. There's a few out there.

I haven't looked into them too much but Nematodes are being pushed hard locally as organic pest control.
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thanks man....
 
Herb Man

Herb Man

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I reuse my soil and amend with chicken pellets.

I let it cook in my garage.

I avoid excess moisture as this promotes the risk of pests.

At the one month mark I will typically see some red spider activity (common and harmless).

By the two month mark, were all clear and good to go.

I'll then add some lime and worm castings and were off to the races.

I use a base nute of Fish, Blood and Bone, which I use as a tea, from the three week mark till a week before the chop.

I will then add Bat Guano and molasses to the tea regimen during flower.

I use the simplest organics.
 
Mr.Head

Mr.Head

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Herb Man said:
I reuse my soil and amend with chicken pellets.

I let it cook in my garage.

I avoid excess moisture as this promotes the risk of pests.

At the one month mark I will typically see some red spider activity (common and harmless).

By the two month mark, were all clear and good to go.

I'll then add some lime and worm castings and were off to the races.

I use a base nute of Fish, Blood and Bone, which I use as a tea, from the three week mark till a week before the chop.

I will then add Bat Guano and molasses to the tea regimen during flower.

I use the simplest organics.
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reasoning for putting the worm casting and lime in later?
 
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