yup I know...but I also read if you only use a little naptha (like 25ml-50ml) per pull you might not have to evap at all because the concentration will be high enough...did the first step in my bathroom and finished cleaning up as my dad started bangin on the door...just made it...got my lye/mhrb/water mix soaking right now...gonna let it soak about an hour or 2(depends if parents are home or not)...than i'll add naptha and mix up for around 10 minutes shaking 4 minutes one 2 minutes off 3 time...then let it all settle for about a half hour to hour then remove naptha and evap then freeze
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floridasucks
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yea i used about 25-30 ml naphtha and that shit still took all day to evap to the right concentration. dont forget you have to shake the mix every 5 mins for 50 mins before you add the naphtha.
then,
"Find a bucket or a water jug that is tall enough to hold your bottle in, fill with hot water from tap… add cold water if you can’t leave your hand in the water for 10 seconds without burning, until you can.
Now add about 30ml of naphtha to the bottle the exact amount isn’t too important, less is more, but less is harder too.
Shake it like a crazyperson again and leave the bottle standing in the hot water bath.
Shake and replace back in water at 10 and 20 minutes, at 30 minutes you should have 2 pretty distinct layers. The heat helps the solvent work better, but you do not want to go over 50C."
the next step^ taken from the method ANC posted.
then,
"Find a bucket or a water jug that is tall enough to hold your bottle in, fill with hot water from tap… add cold water if you can’t leave your hand in the water for 10 seconds without burning, until you can.
Now add about 30ml of naphtha to the bottle the exact amount isn’t too important, less is more, but less is harder too.
Shake it like a crazyperson again and leave the bottle standing in the hot water bath.
Shake and replace back in water at 10 and 20 minutes, at 30 minutes you should have 2 pretty distinct layers. The heat helps the solvent work better, but you do not want to go over 50C."
the next step^ taken from the method ANC posted.
floridasucks
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ANC says if you evap like that you will get small yellow nasty xtals.
i would go with small pulls like 20ml or less then try to find a good hiding place for your dish cuz its gonna take a few hours at least to evap.
i hope your useing this tek... https://www.rollitup.org/hallucinatory-substances/165978-lighter-smokeable-form-dmt-2.html
I've read about 3 or 4 similar teks including that one and I'll break it down right now
Always wear safety equipment and use a seal-able jug/bottle & always release pressure from jug while mixing to prevent pressure buildup.
Materials:
1 HDPE 2 Milk Jug
50g NAOH
50g Powdered MHRB
750mL of Tap Water
Gatorade Bottle Twist Top (as separator funnel with bottom cut off)
Vinegar in case of spills
Gloves
Goggles
3m paint & dust mask
1g MHRB:1g NAOH: 15 mL H20
1) Put Jug in Cold Water Bath & Slowly mix NAOH and water in parts while swirling and monitoring heat. When jugs turn cold & NAOH dissolves while mixing add more NAOH & water.
2) After mixing all water & lye mix makes sure all lye has dissolved & container is cool to touch.
3) Mix in MHRB.
4) Seal Container
5) Mix repeatedly over 2-3 hours (after I first mixed I realized I forgot salt and added some)
~not up to this step~
6) Add 25 ml Naptha to container & seal.
7) Shake bottle
Let sit for an hour (if you want to use a heat bath you can)
9) Separate naptha layer and avoid getting any mhrb/lye into the naptha layer using separator funnel to ensure all water(which sinks) is let back into the original mixture
10) evaporate naptha until able to blow on it and turn cloudy
11) freeze precipitate in a seal-able container
12)after crystals form pour remaining naptha back into the jug and repeat the agitation process & separation
You may want to do a Sodium carbonate wash which involves washing the naptha layer with a mix of water & Sodium carbonate and then re evaping/frezeing for a cleaner product.
Recrystallization can be done by
1)
redissolving the crystals back into naptha in a hot water bath
2)Seperate the naptha from the oil impurity on bottom
3)Place separated naptha at room temp(2-3 hours)
4)move to a refrigerator (2-3 hours)
5)move to a freezer (48+ hours)
There will be a drop in weight but a cleaner product and big crystals.
I will probably leave out recrystallization & SC wash for now but maybe in the future.
I compilated info from ANCs post & multiple teks on dmt-nexus as well. I didn't invent t his method just collaborated different methods.
Always wear safety equipment and use a seal-able jug/bottle & always release pressure from jug while mixing to prevent pressure buildup.
Materials:
1 HDPE 2 Milk Jug
50g NAOH
50g Powdered MHRB
750mL of Tap Water
Gatorade Bottle Twist Top (as separator funnel with bottom cut off)
Vinegar in case of spills
Gloves
Goggles
3m paint & dust mask
1g MHRB:1g NAOH: 15 mL H20
1) Put Jug in Cold Water Bath & Slowly mix NAOH and water in parts while swirling and monitoring heat. When jugs turn cold & NAOH dissolves while mixing add more NAOH & water.
2) After mixing all water & lye mix makes sure all lye has dissolved & container is cool to touch.
3) Mix in MHRB.
4) Seal Container
5) Mix repeatedly over 2-3 hours (after I first mixed I realized I forgot salt and added some)
~not up to this step~
6) Add 25 ml Naptha to container & seal.
7) Shake bottle
Let sit for an hour (if you want to use a heat bath you can)9) Separate naptha layer and avoid getting any mhrb/lye into the naptha layer using separator funnel to ensure all water(which sinks) is let back into the original mixture
10) evaporate naptha until able to blow on it and turn cloudy
11) freeze precipitate in a seal-able container
12)after crystals form pour remaining naptha back into the jug and repeat the agitation process & separation
You may want to do a Sodium carbonate wash which involves washing the naptha layer with a mix of water & Sodium carbonate and then re evaping/frezeing for a cleaner product.
Recrystallization can be done by
1)
redissolving the crystals back into naptha in a hot water bath
2)Seperate the naptha from the oil impurity on bottom
3)Place separated naptha at room temp(2-3 hours)
4)move to a refrigerator (2-3 hours)
5)move to a freezer (48+ hours)
There will be a drop in weight but a cleaner product and big crystals.
I will probably leave out recrystallization & SC wash for now but maybe in the future.
I compilated info from ANCs post & multiple teks on dmt-nexus as well. I didn't invent t his method just collaborated different methods.
floridasucks
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sounds good man. im on day 2 of tryin to recrystallize in naphtha. it looks like ive got a tiny bit more but not much. and ive never done the SC wash as my product smoked just fine without it.
floridasucks
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when i did it the layers separated pretty quick in the hot water bath... only took about 5-10 mins to separate.
got the whole jug in hot water right now...gonna keep it soaking for 40 minutes and then try to extract the naptha...i used like 28 ml or so almost 30 but it's really hard to see right now with how little naptha that is plus i have a few emulsions but I'm hoping in almost an hour it'll settle I'll take a pic and post if I have an issue but I'll keep you posted
seperating pretty good...ill let it go til the water gets cold but I can see a difference inl ayers but it's still pretty small...Ill post results and combine 2 3 and possibly 4th pulls from this to evap and freeze...or should I do next pulls tomorrow or friday and let the solution sit?
floridasucks
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im guessing it didnt fill the milk jug very much thats why its hard to see the layers. try putting it in your separator funnel (bcuz its a smaller container) and put that in hot water bath.
I had to add some more naptha... I saw the layer but way way tooo thin... When pouring it into my makeshift funnel It was all black juice no visible layer on top so I added some more and I'll let it seperate...if anything I'll invest in a different container if need bee I know you guys said a tall, thin glass jar just not sure where to find that.
i'm glad I didn't dump a pound into the mix for my first try but at least this provides me with learning for next time...the bigger naptha layer is visible and i'll try to separate shortly. If the funnel doesn't work I may add more water lye and even maybe some more mhrb to fill up jar more but I'll try a big syring I have to look for and maybe that'll work.
floridasucks
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yea the bottle is very imortant.... ANC said an empty wine bottle would work... i used an empty patron bottle. the point is to get the naphtha layer in the neck of the bottle so its easier to pull off. but if your using a separator funnel you should not have a problem. i dont know why u got emulsions, i didn't both times. all i can tell you is i followed ANC's tek exactly, except for the times may have been longer on the shaking/separating part and the second time i added a teaspoon of salt.
i guess if i had done 100g with twice the water it would've been easier to seperate as opposed to getting so much of the mixture at the neck of the botle but I'm refining my method and once I got most of the sludge back into the mix....I actually have a blueberry vodka bottle that would hold almost the exact mix but IDK if I wanna risk transferring it and messing up...very little naptha extracted so far...waitting on 2nd/3rd pull hopefully I get some otherwise enxt time new containers and 100g maybe to make more solution
floridasucks
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your gettin the hang of it... told you its a learning experience.
dont worry about transferring just use the hot water bath and it will separate easy.
yea between the funnel and a syringe I have I been able to extract the clear fluid and make sure each brown drop is out before transferring to my container...doing one more extraction try w/ it soaking in hot tub right now...mom leaves work in 1 hr so I want it all put away and evap or freezing by then...I'm prolly gonna flush the rest since I read its safe to do so since lye is drain cleaner any way otherwise I'm slightly nervous about keeping it in a plastic container over night if it was glass it'd be one thing but plastic I feel might degrade the longer its held in there.
floridasucks
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aww no dont throw it out. u can extract more from it with more pulls and you can use xylene. dam i wish i was closer to you, i would use your left overs.
how many pulls have you done?