First grow setup question

BeaverHuntr

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This is exactly what I was going to ask about next because a call to Master's Pride soil manufacturer has proven it's unavailability in AZ. Thanks for all the info BeaverHuntr!

Yep try Fox Farms Ocean Forest, Happy Frog or Roots Organic ... Cali has a lot of shit other placed dont its just the way it is, they been growing cannabis a lot longer than anyone else. I'm pretty sure those bags in the pic by the Cali dude are a lot cheaper than Fox Farms Ocean Forest thats probably why he uses them other than that they are probably the same shit.
 
Are you here in the desert now? If so, where do you pick this soil up from? I've called several nurseries up and no one stocks this... I'm so stressed and my grow hasn't even started! Lol, I need to medicate. Okay better now.
Not in AZ, I'm in cali. You can find this soil online, several places carry it. I pay about $21.00 for 3 bags of it, so about $7.00 a bag, probably will be more online though once you factor in shipping. All I know is that this soil is the shiz nits!
 

BeaverHuntr

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Not in AZ, I'm in cali. You can find this soil online, several places carry it. I pay about $21.00 for 3 bags of it, so about $7.00 a bag, probably will be more online though once you factor in shipping. All I know is that this soil is the shiz nits!

Thats a pretty good deal. You cant find that stuff here in AZ we just have the big name soils.
 

swaggersDlite

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in time smaller manufacture's of good soils will hopefully start popping up here and there, giving us more choices and better prices to choose from.
 

BeaverHuntr

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Fuck that NOISE!!

Why such the hate for Cali...? I was born and raised in Phoenix. It's home and I love it. But you cant knock Cali dude they basically wrote the book on MJ cultivation, created some of the best strains, the first state to legalize medicinal MJ, some of the worlds most famous cannabis growers come from Cali..They are just years ahead of AZ growers. I mean the OG strain was invented there ( Ocean Grown) You have to give credit where its due.
 

swaggersDlite

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Why such the hate for Cali...? I was born and raised in Phoenix. It's home and I love it. But you cant knock Cali dude they basically wrote the book on MJ cultivation, created some of the best strains, the first state to legalize medicinal MJ, some of the worlds most famous cannabis growers come from Cali..They are just years ahead of AZ growers. I mean the OG strain was invented there ( Ocean Grown) You have to give credit where its due.
yeah................ ! lol
 

MurshDawg

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Yea okay I'll give credit where it's due. Cali is like the Wright Brothers at kitty hawk (proved flight possible)... maybe there like Howard Hughes (proved decadent flight is possible). AZ is gonna be like the fucking Apollo Project. I think we'll take mmj to places it's only dreamed of.
 

BeaverHuntr

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Yea okay I'll give credit where it's due. Cali is like the Wright Brothers at kitty hawk (proved flight possible)... maybe there like Howard Hughes (proved decadent flight is possible). AZ is gonna be like the fucking Apollo Project. I think we'll take mmj to places it's only dreamed of.
I hope so..Good analogies ...
 

phxfire

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Why such the hate for Cali...? I was born and raised in Phoenix. It's home and I love it. But you cant knock Cali dude they basically wrote the book on MJ cultivation, created some of the best strains, the first state to legalize medicinal MJ, some of the worlds most famous cannabis growers come from Cali..They are just years ahead of AZ growers. I mean the OG strain was invented there ( Ocean Grown) You have to give credit where its due.
Look what is happening there... If the MMJ scene in AZ turns into CALI.... We are all doomed..
 

irieie

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Yea okay I'll give credit where it's due. Cali is like the Wright Brothers at kitty hawk (proved flight possible)... maybe there like Howard Hughes (proved decadent flight is possible). AZ is gonna be like the fucking Apollo Project. I think we'll take mmj to places it's only dreamed of.
no offense but that is laughable. i wish you were right but AZ does not have the laws, experience, growers, advocates, industry, popular opinion, or culture which has enabled the california MMJ industry to grow and develop into what it has become today. AZ has come a long way but it is still just an overflow of the excess in california. all the excess outdoor or 2nd shelf medicine is brought here and we have also seen an influx of "entrepreneurs" from the california industry which came here because of their failed attempt in california. in addition why the industry progress in AZ yet remain stagnant in cali. any growth in AZ would be preceded by ten fold growth in cali.if you wanna talk specifics. the current apollo mission in the MMJ community is concentrates and this is just emerging here in AZ while in Cali it is already a well established facet in the marketplace.
 

greywind

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no offense but that is laughable. i wish you were right but AZ does not have the laws, experience, growers, advocates, industry, popular opinion, or culture which has enabled the california MMJ industry to grow and develop into what it has become today. AZ has come a long way but it is still just an overflow of the excess in california. all the excess outdoor or 2nd shelf medicine is brought here and we have also seen an influx of "entrepreneurs" from the california industry which came here because of their failed attempt in california. in addition why the industry progress in AZ yet remain stagnant in cali. any growth in AZ would be preceded by ten fold growth in cali.if you wanna talk specifics. the current apollo mission in the MMJ community is concentrates and this is just emerging here in AZ while in Cali it is already a well established facet in the marketplace.
California didn't have any of that when it established itself as a MMJ state back in the day. Who's to say we can't do it better out here with so many blueprints from other states to go off of? The opportunity to do it better is there. Don't accept Cali's sloppy seconds and put effort into producing AZ's finest. Just my two cents...
 

IVIars

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Colorado seed companies won the HTCC. Oregon has good breeders and genetics, same with cali. Az has a LONG way to go.
 

Stinkbait

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Super Lemon Haze is like being super stoned yet feel really euphoric and you do not get tired at all.. very up lifting high.
I'm gonna need some of that! This Northern Lights has been kickin my ass. Makes me very tired. oh well time for some wake and bake!
 

Stinkbait

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Look what is happening there... If the MMJ scene in AZ turns into CALI.... We are all doomed..
Dude, there are bad apples in every bunch. There will be plenty of people that get busted here in AZ for being greedy and either growing too much or just simply screwing the system. But I wouldn't say we will turn into cali.

I guess I don't understand the hate either.
 

MurshDawg

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no offense but that is laughable. i wish you were right but AZ does not have the laws, experience, growers, advocates, industry, popular opinion, or culture which has enabled the california MMJ industry to grow and develop into what it has become today. AZ has come a long way but it is still just an overflow of the excess in california. all the excess outdoor or 2nd shelf medicine is brought here and we have also seen an influx of "entrepreneurs" from the california industry which came here because of their failed attempt in california. in addition why the industry progress in AZ yet remain stagnant in cali. any growth in AZ would be preceded by ten fold growth in cali.if you wanna talk specifics. the current apollo mission in the MMJ community is concentrates and this is just emerging here in AZ while in Cali it is already a well established facet in the marketplace.
I take no offense, thanks and mean none in return; it sounds like you lack hope... The reason why cali has the laws they have is because they have an engaged voters and a love for the voter initiative (they are way more engaged in their government probably due to all the colleges). What AZ has going on that people don't understand is about to undergo a demographic change. For so long it all AZ had were all these old retired WW2 vets (all due respect) with McCarthyian values who kept voting in the same good ole boys. Since the beginning "Great Recession" people have started migrating to greener pastures. Since the end of WW2 people would move to AZ to get a fresh start in get in at the ground floor of a business opportunity. LA is becoming derelict like Detroit; so it wouldn't put it past me that the successful entrepreneurs saw the writing on the wall and financed people like Al Sobol or AZCS Bill. I also think that the same folk will help change the mmj laws. Besides (off topic) you cannot beat AZ's gun laws; it's just our mmj law that needs a little fine tuning

I can't really dispute cali's reputation when it comes to cannabis; I just will maintain the hope and zeal that cali's "crazy little brother" AZ will be more successful than Cali.
 
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