First Grow - Rubbermaid CFL with Nirvanas Aurora

timlang420

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Well many people say that FFOF is too "hot" for starting a seed. They say that it will burn and kill the seedling. If you look in my pictures early on I had a bit of nute burn when it very young but it worked through. I just watered less frequently, thinking that the water makes the nutrients soluble for the plant...it was a high thought. I am using cocoa coir as a starter for the next seed...don't wanna take the chance. So long answer I would say that it's not necessarily worth it because you can get cocoa coir for hella cheap. 3-5 bucks.

A HID light would definitely melt a rubbermaid haha. No problem. I am jealous you are upgrading.

I do plan on outfitting my closet to make two chambers. One for flower and one for veg. Should be able to harvest every 4-6 weeks. I am open to any design ideas. I have been looking up a few. My main concern is air circulation and heat. Very excited to put it together
thats why my brother and i made a 2nd box, to have the ability to harvest 2x as often. our first box was 2 large tubs ontop of each other. the 2nd box was 1 smaller tub with a lid. the smaller tub had a totally different atmosphere than our first because of its smaller size, which we didn't account for, so we ruined the first 3 seeds right away cuz we grew them like we did in our larger box. they dried out so we put a small humidifier in the box but that was too moist, so that killed our next 2 and we only had 5 of the white widow seeds. then we tried growing the auto flower seeds that came for free with our white widow seeds and we fucked them up. so that frustration made us decide to get a bad ass grow tent (when we get the money). in the mean time we are growing a couple in our original box. trial and error....sucks but i have learned alot. if i was you i would stick with what works. make your 2nd box just like the first, but have more 6500k lights for your veg and more of the 2700k lights for your flower box. i read that plants like a mix of light, and having 2 to 1 light bulbs for the stage of development is optimal (2 6500k lights to 1 2700k light for veg, 2 2700k lights to 1 6500k light for flower). i think the hid lights that only produce 1 type of light are so powerful that its not necessary to give them multiple types of light. so for design ideas for your 2nd box should be easy, copy your 1st box that worked but make the necessary changes to support what stage your plants will be in for the new box. i dont remember seeing pictures of the design of your box. i assume you got an exhaust fan and at least a hole on the other side to suck air in from. when summer comes we'll probably have to add an intake fan to cut down the temp a bit. but thats gonna change the humidity, so we will probably have to get a large humidifier and put it outside the box next to the intake. thats something i learned too, put the humidifier outside the box, not inside, lol.
 

madrush21

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thats why my brother and i made a 2nd box, to have the ability to harvest 2x as often. our first box was 2 large tubs ontop of each other. the 2nd box was 1 smaller tub with a lid. the smaller tub had a totally different atmosphere than our first because of its smaller size, which we didn't account for, so we ruined the first 3 seeds right away cuz we grew them like we did in our larger box. they dried out so we put a small humidifier in the box but that was too moist, so that killed our next 2 and we only had 5 of the white widow seeds. then we tried growing the auto flower seeds that came for free with our white widow seeds and we fucked them up. so that frustration made us decide to get a bad ass grow tent (when we get the money). in the mean time we are growing a couple in our original box. trial and error....sucks but i have learned alot. if i was you i would stick with what works. make your 2nd box just like the first, but have more 6500k lights for your veg and more of the 2700k lights for your flower box. i read that plants like a mix of light, and having 2 to 1 light bulbs for the stage of development is optimal (2 6500k lights to 1 2700k light for veg, 2 2700k lights to 1 6500k light for flower). i think the hid lights that only produce 1 type of light are so powerful that its not necessary to give them multiple types of light. so for design ideas for your 2nd box should be easy, copy your 1st box that worked but make the necessary changes to support what stage your plants will be in for the new box. i dont remember seeing pictures of the design of your box. i assume you got an exhaust fan and at least a hole on the other side to suck air in from. when summer comes we'll probably have to add an intake fan to cut down the temp a bit. but thats gonna change the humidity, so we will probably have to get a large humidifier and put it outside the box next to the intake. thats something i learned too, put the humidifier outside the box, not inside, lol.
Wow dude sounds like a rough start. I'm sure it will come around though. Sorry for the late reply. Unfortunately school work does precede this wonderful website. I actually decided on a different set-up. I am about to update so you'll read that in a bit.

Good choice on humidifier placement haha. It's all a learning experience. If you don't make the mistakes now you will make them later when it will have a larger impact, in my opinion...which stinks haha.
 

madrush21

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UPDATE - Week 6 Flowering - Hello RIU, it's been about a week since I have posted any pictures. To be honest like I said before everything is going as planned and this part is really boring work wise...very exciting to see more and more trichs forming and the buds getting denser and denser. I am thinking she'll be done around the first of May, but I will obviously gauge it when we get there. I am growing with CFLs as everyone knows, so I won't be surprise if it takes an extra week or so.

So I was tossing the idea of a perpetual grow. I was going to set it up in my closet and just make separate chambers. The problem is that my lease is up in 4 months so I wouldn't even be able to get more than one more grow in. So I have decided to just grow two at once. I just ordered a 150w HPS (I know I know I should have gone larger, but I think it will do just fine with two plants) which will get here on friday. I am going to use supplemental CFLs that I already own for both veg and flower. I am going to scrog/LST the shit out of them to help with the whole light penetration issue. I think with the 150w HPS and two 42w CFLs I'll be good to go. I also have ventilation already worked out. I am not going to upgrade my fans because I sleep in the same room. I don't want a large fan making a ton of noise (I also don't want to disassemble everything in 4 months.

So I started two seeds. They have already germed and I am waiting for them to sprout. I have them in cocoa coir, until I can move them into FFOF. I have them in the grow box to keep them warm and zip locks over them to keep them humid. Once the light gets here I will send pics of the set-up.

Without further adieu, here are some pictures of my baby. She's getting fat and smells sooo sweet. Literally like weed and fruity pebbles. The buds are getting more and more dense and more trichs are forming every day. I still have her on a feed,water,feed,water schedule with minimal burnt tips so that's good. Hope you enjoy

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Burn one
 

timlang420

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first off, the plants look awesome! good shit. i gotta get some pics of mine on here. mine arent as far along as yours but they get bigger everyday. i love waking up, smoking and goin downstairs to check on my babies.

what box are you gonna put the hps in? did you go cool tube?
 

madrush21

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first off, the plants look awesome! good shit. i gotta get some pics of mine on here. mine arent as far along as yours but they get bigger everyday. i love waking up, smoking and goin downstairs to check on my babies.

what box are you gonna put the hps in? did you go cool tube?
Well instead of making another box I am using the entirety of my closet. I will just line the walls with mylar and use a mylar blanket and the 'door'. I am going to disassemble this rubbermaid once I finish. I may even try to sell it to a friend. I will run the grow from start to finish in the closet. Right now I have the two new seeds in the grow box just to keep them warm and humid. I am going to use a scrog for the closet to utilize the lower wattage hps in conjunction with the cfls.
 

timlang420

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Well instead of making another box I am using the entirety of my closet. I will just line the walls with mylar and use a mylar blanket and the 'door'. I am going to disassemble this rubbermaid once I finish. I may even try to sell it to a friend. I will run the grow from start to finish in the closet. Right now I have the two new seeds in the grow box just to keep them warm and humid. I am going to use a scrog for the closet to utilize the lower wattage hps in conjunction with the cfls.
i hope you live in a house and not an apartment, its gonna be stinky. my house is small so and my box is in the basement but you could smell it when you walked in the front door. i have not ducting to divert the ventilation or filter for my box, so i was expecting it. but my house usually stinks of the bowl im always smoking anyway.....speaking of which....
 

madrush21

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i hope you live in a house and not an apartment, its gonna be stinky. my house is small so and my box is in the basement but you could smell it when you walked in the front door. i have not ducting to divert the ventilation or filter for my box, so i was expecting it. but my house usually stinks of the bowl im always smoking anyway.....speaking of which....
I live in an apartment but...Aurora Indica hardly smells at all. I have two weeks left and you can only smell it in my bedroom and only while the lights are on, which is when pretty much everyone is out at work for the most part. I live in an all dominican neighborhood and all I smell all day is weed...including in my building so I feel pretty safe haha.

My HPS just arrived. I will post pictures when I get the closet in order. My little germed seeds should be sprouting relatively soon. Within the next day or so, I would say.

Happy Smoking!
 

timlang420

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timlang420, I don't remeber this being your grow journal :\
my bad madrush21. we've been talking bout our plants but i havent posted any pics of mine. i didnt think about the pics being posting on your journal...stepping on your toes. my bad if i did.
 

MrFowlio

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When you harvest show us some hi res pics of those bids and please include your drying and curing :) Love this!
Good luck and well played :)
Happy Growing
 

madrush21

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my bad madrush21. we've been talking bout our plants but i havent posted any pics of mine. i didnt think about the pics being posting on your journal...stepping on your toes. my bad if i did.
Haha it's all good Tim. I was saying I wanted to see them. Some people do get very offended on here if you do that though. Not I so feel free to post. Btw they look great. Other than that one leaf they look healthy as can be. Great color and growth. I had mine stacked up on old books and pots to get it closer when it was younger.

No toes stepped on. You definitely should start a journal though. I would love to follow a fellow follower ha. Hope you enjoyed 420. I am celebrating belatedly ha. Now where did I put my bubbler...

Burn One
 

madrush21

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When you harvest show us some hi res pics of those bids and please include your drying and curing :) Love this!
Good luck and well played :)
Happy Growing
Thanks Mrfowlio. I will most definitely be including everything right up to smoking the finished product. I do wish I had a DSLR to get those good micro shots, but alas as a man on budget my phone camera is the only thing I got haha. Thank you for the positive feedback!

Burn One
 

timlang420

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Haha it's all good Tim. I was saying I wanted to see them. Some people do get very offended on here if you do that though. Not I so feel free to post. Btw they look great. Other than that one leaf they look healthy as can be. Great color and growth. I had mine stacked up on old books and pots to get it closer when it was younger.

No toes stepped on. You definitely should start a journal though. I would love to follow a fellow follower ha. Hope you enjoyed 420. I am celebrating belatedly ha. Now where did I put my bubbler...

Burn One
thats cool, we are all stoners here, laid back and chill, i figured from past postings you wouldnt snap on me. i recently got a bubbler. i hadnt cleaned it for like 2 weeks and i came home from work one day and the fucking cats knocked it over. gross resin water in my carpet, my house stunk so fucking bad. i was angry to say the least, but they were just kittens and its tough to look at a tiny ass kitten and be mad, especially high...

anyway i dunno if i have the time to start a journal and keep it updated, but if i do i'll def. let you know.
 

madrush21

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UPDATE - Flowering Week 7 - Hello there RIU! It's been about a week since my last post. I have nothing to update on other than denser nugs and it's more crystally...wow I am baked this is hard to type. Anyway she has about 2 weeks left by the look of her. I bought a scope and I want to say that my trich are 80% cloudy and 20% clear so I am waiting for the subtle change into like 5% amber. She is smelling soooo good. I do need to rig something up because each day the smell is getting stronger lol. Anywhere here is your weed porn for the night.IMAG0341.jpgIMAG0342.jpgIMAG0343.jpgIMAG0345.jpgIMAG0346.jpgIMAG0347.jpgIMAG0348.jpgIMAG0349.jpgIMAG0351.jpg
 

FeelinSpacey

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You really did a very nice job for a rubbermaid grow and the plant still looks pretty damn healthy. How big are those colas now? You should hold a lighter next to one and take a pic.
 

timlang420

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good shit bro! we just started flowering ours today, actually just plugged in and set the timers. how many plants you got going?
 
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