First Grow in 10 years...Do I remember.......Lets see...

Put down growing for last 10 years or so. Use to have a green thumb, maybe even a whole
green hand. Been so long, equipment is so old, my memories are cloudy, lol.....this ought to
b one Hell of an adventure...............HERE WE GO............

BTW, put up a long post introducing myself and explaining some of how this whole mess started.
Not going to repeat it here, anyone interested in back story can read it there.

The Grow was suppose to be just some of my old favorites..........I have missed smoking them for
the last decade. What started as a search for my old genetics(lost them due to poor storage on my behalf)
has turned into this disaster in the works............

Up first, the JUNGLE I call it...........Cab 1 .




Before I realized ALL MY old genetics were toast, i pulled out all the old gear, set up the buckets,
set up the air pumps, timers, cabinets, media.....ALL ready to rock. Go for the gold seeds.......
well....long story, but no seeds.DOH!!!! Have everything ready to go, NO genetics, lol.......

Cab 1 is a jungle because it is 10 different strains going. When I found out my seeds were not useable,
i started asking around(I'm 60, been doing this since 14, so, KNOW a few pep's, lol) and some friends
responded with some cuts. All across the board. Each cut was in different shape, different age, some
good strong healthy cuts, some frail n weak.........Threw all 10 together in Cab 1. Figured I'd veg a while and
see what looked good, grab some cuts off them while I was waiting on seeds to be sent to me and the time
it takes to germ them and bring them up. Seemed like a good plan. Seemed like, lol.

So, Cab 1 has been up a month or so . I have taken cuts off all that I wanted to, they have been rooted and
in soil, under fluro's, as possible future mothers. I also took enough cuts off these ladies to fill a few Cabinets.

Several of the given to me "cuts" appear to have promise, 2 look outstanding, 1 is amazing, the fastest, strongest growing
plant I have ever personally seen. I have seen many! This is off the chain!!

Off the chain Pheno is Sensi Star............with a twist, delta9's Super Star(Sens x Sensi but with sativa dom males)
The thing is just out of control in veg, will tolerate INCREDIBLE nute's, and needs to be controlled. Had to go on a 3 day trip,
and in that time, the Super Star grabbed the Euphoria lady next to her in the cab and ripped her roots out of the bucket.....
kid you not. Euphoria lady was leaning far left(towards the light) she was gonna fall over. Thought I had tied her up to herself....
but I accidentally tied her up to her neighbor, the Sensi Super Star. That biotch grew 11 inches in 3 days and ripped the Euphoria
right out of her bucket 12 inches!!!!!

Anyways, from day one of receiving the S.S. I knew it was a special lil plant. Not sure how kick ars her smoke shall be,
but I could tell the lil sucker likes to GROW. I took a cab full of cuts of her, and that cab is below, only 3 days into 'dro
out of the cloner................amazing........



Because the Super Star attacked n killed the Euphoria, I figured the Euphoria needed a round two, lol........so back bucket, 3 over to the right, Euphoria.

They run in cabinets, sealed, in MoDDED Water Farms w/ circulation . Veggin under a giant 4 foot hood with a 400 watt MH in her.

I ONLY run GH nutes, and these ladies are off the charts on what they will take. These gal's are drinking 1400 ppm at this age and
digging it. Burned leaves are my sloppy doings...........dripping nute water on them, and getting drip rings adjusted to maintain MOST water
in the damn buckets, lol........

Above was Cab 2. This is Cab 3:




One of the "cuts" I received was a White Widow. It came from...............A friend of a friend of a friend of a friend............man........then to my friend, then me.
Supposedly this plant is 10 years old, a killer pheno of her type, and described as beautiful.

Who knows, lol..........but the trail, as far as I could follow it back, was pretty credible, so WHY THE HELL NOT.
The lil cut i got was pathetic, small n stunned. Took forever to recover n grow . The Cab 3 above, is cuts of that Mom.

Mom never grew very fast, these have not yet either, hope I'm not wasting my time on these. Never grown WW before, know
NOTHING bout her, not liking what I'm seeing, but know it's early, and ANYTHING can and DOES happen .
My bud swears it is the best weed he has ever smoked..................came from this plant..........so we shall see.

The one in Cab 1 , the original cut which I am now flowering, is starting to show some promise. She was 1/2 the size of
all others in that Cab when I flipped it, she was getting shut out on light space, but is starting to fight back and shoot up at
day 10 or 12 of flip............

From what I saw in Cab 1, I will flip these ladies at 10-14 inches, probably about the time they will take off in veg, should
work well for them...........start the turn as they start their vigor.

This is the W.W. Mom 3 weeks ago, after giving up 16 clones.

While I was jacking with all the above, the $$$ Genetics I ordered came in REAL FAST(suppose to take 30 days, had in 6!) .
Soaked 'em 18 hours, threw them in soil, stuffed em in closet under Fluro's and about forgot about them, DOH!!!



On top of all the above going on, I have these to deal with now.................of course, all the beans came up instantly..................

When it rains it pours...............30 days ago I had nothing but equipment and some knowledge...........now I have more than I can deal with...lol................

The above are from a trusted source. AK47, SSH, and NL . ALL healthy n stout, WILL be a few keepers in this bunch o beans for sure..............


Next Cab up is full Northern Lights. Old school lights, at least I'm told so anyway. Lil
seedlings look KILLER,,,,,,,,,,dropping them in the 'dro next week, veggin 2 weeks, then
turning them .

Since I did not have enough going on already............................and I hate seeing anything go to waste, I had to figure out what
to do with the 8 cuts of Super Sensi Star, the 2 extra W.W's, and some AK47's I ran out of room for. Did not wanna throw them out,
too late to plant outside.......................so............roll a big fat one, hunt Craigslist for 3 hours............score some "stuff" on the cheap......lol.


Since I bought new fabric cabinets for this grow, I had a bunch of extra"old" Cabs laying around, just needed cheap stuff to run in them.

100 bucks later I had scored and brought home:
2 150 Watt HPS light sets, Hood/ballast, bulbs
2 100 Watt HP light sets, Hood/ballast, bulbs
1 200 Watt Felix Hood/bulb, 1 125 Watt Hood/bulb sets
3 full bottles of GH nutes!!!! BINGO HERE!!!!
1 5 gallon Hydro Farm single bucket w/pump n line

100 bucks buys A LOT OF HYDRO junk on CL....lol.........lol............

So, put 1 150 HPS in each of 2 Cabs. In one, the 5 gallon Hydro bucket running GH nutes and 3 AK47's
In the other, 4 Super Star rooted clones, and 2 White Widow rooted clones, in soil. Bottom is rocks,
bottom 1/3 is SubCool's soil, top 2/3 is Fox Farms Ocean Forest or whatever it is called.......

The WW and SS are known female rooted clones. The AK47's are from seed, and unknown.
They have been in their respective containers for a week now, today they were flipped to 12/12.

They will be on auto pilot............just to see what 150 HPS can do.........not expecting much, so I imagine
they will rock it and cause me a lot of work, lol.


Single 150 Wat HPS light. Thing to right is cardboard holding light in center of cab because I was too lazy to put new hangers in for ONLY 150 watts..........lol...................




AK47 in a 5 gallon Hydro bucket. Bucket is VERY cool, never run a single site bucket before. Simple, elegant, set it n forget it, lol..........
I have high hopes for this let it do its own thing set up. Betting the combo of strong nutes, big time aeration, and the lil 150 light, close to the plants, will
yield me a few ounces of killer STASH(I like the 47 personally) .

The 3 AK's are reg unknown seeds. They were culled from the pile of other seedlings from above. Threw 11 down, 11 came up.
By time they were transplanted into the Dixie's, ALL looked identical..........lol..........very little size difference either. These lil ones
are really too early to turn, but they have been! Hope is 1 female, the big in back is my guess. Forgot how old they are, this pic is a week old,
when I first put them in the bucket. They are about 3 or 3 1/2 weeks. About 1/2 again as large now as above pic shows. AK47's grow quickly.

Plan is to keep one or two at a small height to allow the 150 watt to have a chance at decent bud. IT cost me zip to do it,
the 150 burns little elec, and I am DYING for some 47 about now, lol!!!!!

So, now I am caught up. I will use this journal to keep track of my weeks n schedule...........maybe make some new friends along the way,
and have fun at something I have missed doing for 10 years!!!!

ANYONE may ask anything, this journal is open, and should be considered such.


Tomorrow I MUST deal with Cab 1 and spend hours tying the monsters up into some semblance of order, lol.... I will
post a few pics of what I'm talking about then.


To anyone interested, the cabs are set as follows:

All the cabs are Hydro Farm Water Farm units I have modified. I run 8 buckets to a Cab. Baskets have been drilled,
buckets have been drilled n Daisey chained together with 1" plumbing not 1/2" . Each bucket connected 2 times. Circulation
pump in res, pumping through all eight buckets, coming back into res from rear return line. Run 20.5 gallons in each setup,
puts water 1/4 " below bottom of buckets............as plants grow, i kick it back to 17, then 15 gallons. Each bucket has bubble stone
and each bucket n stone is run by it's own air pump. 2 big air pumps per Cab. 1 for the drippers only, 1 for the bubbles......

When clones are planted, and for 2 weeks veg time, buckets are tight together, as close as I can get all 8. Allows me to
run 1 400 Watt in a HUGE4 foot hood over the whole setup. Works beautifully. Can usually get 1 - 2 weeks into flower time with the
single 400(switched to HPS of course) over the 8. As they bush and get large, During weeks nute change, I bust them apart, and widen
them into 2 sets of four. A 400 watt HPS resides of each set of 4. 800 watts in my 2 x 4 x 7 Cabinet.

4 cabinets are hooked in series. A 10 inch, 1667 cfm axial fan, mounted in 10" insulated duct line is connected to the
6 inch vent at top of each tent(cab) . The fan PULLS air from all 4 cabs and exhausts out to the outside. Tents have 6 air holes
each, airflow is OUTSTANDING in the tents. I needed to install a fan speed adjuster on the 1667 to slow it up to keep from
crushing in the cabs and sucking little one out the top..............lol...............

Same setup i ran for years............years ago. Worked well then, hope it still does..............................

Awesome mate

Glad to see you are back in the game M8.

Kudos on your efforts.

Many Thanx for the Share.

Peace and Great Grows

Asmallvoice

K...here it is 2 days later. Had 1 of those days off, so a lot got done. The setup is nearing completion,
THANK GOD............FORGOT just HOW MUCH work it is running multiple hydro setups with different
strains and diff nute n water requirements. The setting up part anyways. One more Cab to go, then I can
relax a bit and just watch the girls go................as I FETCH copious amounts of water.............lol........

Since ALL my girls are UNKNOWN (to me at least) and I have not a clue what will be killer, good, decent or schwagg,
I have taken cuts off everything that looked promising. The small mother Cab I had was not cutting it, they were crowded,
and there was room for no more. Since AK47, Northern Lights, and Super Silver Haze are now all up and kicking it,
gonna need more space for cuts of these too.........................so, new Momma Cab went up yesterday:

Tall girl in back is White Widow Mom. She is in Heaven in her new Cab! Soil is right but cool, light is right but light,
air flow JUSt enough. She will give up 8 cuts every week without any stress or bother. She is on Auto Pilot.
Taller girl next to her is "Cloud Watcher"..buds concoction, Haze X Sensi Star X Choc Tai.................yeah,lol...........
She is in Cab one(the original cut given to me..........flowering now) She KICKS it in the 'dro..........gonna CALM her down here
in cool soil, light light, little air. Slow it down baby, your a Mom now.............lol..............

Others are: Train Wreck...........V old school version out of Cali
Bubble Gum.............out of the Orient, cut given to me by friend, they call it Bubbleicious
Euphoria.............heard great things, she grows like a M.F. in 'dro.....1 in Cab 1 in flower now
Super Star...Sensi Star X Sensi Star........but to her Sativa side..........NEVER seen ANYTHING grow like this biotch does........lol.............
Tall Girl...............I named her, lol. Got 2 seeds out of a 1/2 OZ bought bag of Dro. The smoke was FAIR at best..........but was EARLY,
not resined up, and looked to me to have potential. The original (from the seed) is in Cab 1, ROCKING it too!!
She grew BIG FAST, is a Sativa, or leans that way, has SWOLLEN NODEs like I have NEVER seen before, and I
took a chance throwing her down............I believe it is gonna pay off.............but ya never know.......SOMEONE grew this
strain for sale............im betting they did not know what they were doing.............I do..............lol
Afghani..............cut given to me from friend of friend..........he has been growing it near 10 years. Smoked some the day
before I got the cut(original cut in Cab 1 in flower now...........she is having issues, lol......NOT really her fault)
and 20 minutes after I smoked 5 hits of it..................I was STUPID.............lol.............STRAIGHT INDICA, hammered
my ass ................lol...............I am NOT use to strong Indica's.........being a Sativa man..............WOW

Today was a GREAT day for me! I finally got to thrown down something I WANT!!! LOL. Last 30 days I have been growing everyone Else's cuts,
n seeds, and whatever.......lol................trying to get some Mom's, n select some decent girls to grow. I know not the REAL heritage of ANY of what I have going..........
other than what has been told to me. The seeds I paid for and ordered are another matter. I trust the seller, I KNOW i got what I wanted, and IT IS FINALLY TIME
to work on something I know will reward me with some killer stash bud.

Cab 4 went up today. Same setup as others. 4 X 2 Cab. 8 buckets tight(will be spread later), giant hood with 400 MH over them.
Nutes at 1400 PPM(they will be just fine) Northern Lights. Hopefully Old Skool NL. What I requested...........we shall see. Look like nothing
else I have grown in 10 years...................Wait....I have not grown in 10 years.............never mind..........but they do look funky, lol.........from seed

Been 2 days since I opened Cab 3. That is the Sensi Star(Super Star actually) cabinet. 2 weak White Widows(lol)
and a Euphoria hang out in there too............at least until the S.S. turns on them for space and eats 'em.........(true story)

My God these suckers can grow and bush. This original cut I got HAS to have been from a plant in flower, DEEP in flower.
BUT........been growing it in veg for near a month(18 hour) .............not sure whats up with these things, but from the look of the
original cut in Cab 1 (in flower now 2 weeks) I have nothing to worry about. They BUSH...........well, you see, like a damn bush.
Gonna have to really think about when to turn these lil MONSTERS........I can just sense they are Serious plants and can only hope
the smoke is good. I will have to contain them and flip 'em small to manage them and a full time real job, lol............



I am a stoner, work 50 hours per week, and have been ULTRA busy last 30 days setting up n such.
These S.S are clones from the cut I got 30 days ago. As ALWAYS..........cut, 14 days in cloner, then into
Rapid Rooter and 'dro basket. Believe these girls been in a week, maybe 10 days..............NOT sure, lol.
What I am sure about is they crazy growth in last 2 days. they will need to be flipped REAL soon....I'm NOT ending up
with a 2nd JUNGLE..........Cab 1 is a lost cause.............I'm just gonna throw light, nutes, and air at it.........let it do it's own thing and
fight it out...I CANNOT tie it down, nor bend it, nor manipulate it in any way anymore...........lol...............just zipped the Cab shut.,
open it up in 5 weeks...............................lol...................could be interesting........................

Anyway, the S.S. girls are looking nice. At the current rate of growth, they will be flipping in a week to 10 days. So
maybe 12-14 days veg time. They DO NOT need more than 12 inches at he turn I'm betting. They are Certainly Sativa
Pheno's.......BIG Time(I love it, lol!) and will 3X in size easy on their 3 week stretch. I want them to finish at 40 inches or so.

That is the plan..................lol...................putting it here so I might remember and follow up on it..................

These are White Widow clones. 1 week into veg from the cloner. Like the S.S. above. In actually 4 days before the S.S. now that
I think about it. Not sure what is up with the W.W............Maybe me, but expected something different.

History of them: Cut given to me. Was small, bad shape, stunned. Took time to recover, grew very slowly, Mom still actually does(but
that is by my design as a Mother) .............let her recover, took a bunch of cuts from her, 16 . The cuts grow slower than anything else
I have up and going. The original is in Cab 1 in flower. She was horrible when put in, 1/3 size of any others, and ended up being the runt in the cab.
Not really her fault. But.......15 days into the flip she comes alive, jumps a foot in no time. Next 5 days she comes up another 6 inches.
She is now near the top of the canopy, but a single tall girl...........looks like she will make one long ass big center bud...........given enough light
which she will not have in Cab 1.

The cuts I took from the recovered Mom seem to grow slowly also. MAYBE it is just some crazy fast growers I have in with it, could VERY well be.
But they grow no where near like the S.S. or Cloud Watcher do. Maybe this Pheno is really a big time Indica side girl............told her smoke is amazing.
Here they are today, like I said, maybe 10 days into veg in the pots. Not sure where to turn them, thinking let them go one more week, get to 12 inches or so
before the flip.

They look ok to anyone?/?..........I know they are healthy, mean size wise............although I must admit they are staring to get with it in last couple days........

in the bunch of 20 that came up. Both looked the same, grew the same(one a bit harder, tighter bud) and smelled the same. Yield was
the same. Smoke was night n day different.
1 Pheno was smooth, fruity sort of, and mild smoke. Good high, but nothing special.
The other WAS AK47. DAMN.........if you were not a REAL experienced smoker, you had better be holding on to something, or sitting down
when you take a big ole hit of it. No joke. As a daily smoker, it would BUZZ my head upon exhale, and a 2nd rapid follow up hit would send me into
orbit for about 35 seconds......................it was truly one hit wonder weed...............I lost that strain.......................told NOTHING I could buy today
will be ANYTHING like that......................well, maybe so, maybe not so.........I bought 11 seeds of it.........got 11 up, so...........should get 5 or so girls
to see...........................

The 3 in here were picked by me from the 11 a week ago. Put in the 'dro, they are 2.5 X larger than their siblings in the Dixie cups. The one in
the back, the big un............i sort of recognize that look, lol................just have a good feeling about that one. Flipped them about a week ago,
so next week we shall see whats in their.................I'm betting tall one is what I'm after.................

soil(bottom 1/2 subcools mix, top 1/2 Ocean Forest) . Out of 'Dro room, so these 5 will have to chill and wait for an opening
..lol.............cab 1 finishes in 4 weeks, they can veg for 2, get big, then I'll just take cuts off em...............and repopulate Cab 1 with
these...

Shame, as my FAVORITE weed of all time is AK47( Actually, 2nd best weed I ever smoked, best was a cross I did 12 years ago of Cotton Candy X Nevilles Haze...........made people puke from 1 huge bong hit..........expansion was WILD, and the stone was WILDER.....gotta make those again) View attachment 3267809 .......................didn't think out my grow well enough, lol, damn it, and what I WANTED
will be last up to the plate.................NEVER FAILS...........oh well, NL, Nev's Haze, SSK, and Sensi Star will do till these things get their moment in the sun!!!!

The 5 remaining seedlings in their new temporary home...........Damn Cab is too small for the 5..............I will correct that next week

Missing pic from above post. AK47 n SSH hanging out in soil just waiting for a spot in the rotation..........lol........ME TOO......I want me some 47 BAADDD....lol.......





Speaking of the 47..............just home, checked the 3 that are going in the single water farm dealie under the 150 HPS as an experiment.
Experiment is going real well so far. Course will not really know what this tiny light can actually do till they get bigger and start to bud.
At the moment, 1 week of veg time (from seed) and a week of 12/12, their growth is EXCELLENT......at least as good as they would have done
in a full Cab under a big 400 in my regular bucket setup. I may have to consider running single larger buckets(for my own head stash that is) down the road.

Forgot to snap a shot of them before they went nighty night, but they jumped 2 1/2 inches in 2 days, so right on course............




Having a HARD time, lol, navigating this damn site.........VERY computer literate...........be DAMNED if I can put a pic where I want it, or my text where I want it.
Sorry, just read between the lines n follow............your probably stoned anyway..............lol...................Above pic is the missing pic from post above this...........
whew...................the SSH n 47 's hanging ..............

The abomination known as Cab1: About ashamed to even show it, lol, but will, 'cause it really is not my fault, not a rookie oooops, lol
but rather the breeding grounds for all the cuts I got. Wanted up n running fast, so threw a bunch of different cuts in Cab 1, CRANKED the nutes,
killed 'em with watts, and grew them to see their "stuff", lol, SEE what I ACTUALLY got(I know by looking at 4-6 weeks) , and then took clones of what
appealed to me. Instead of just killing the girls that started my 1st grow in a decade, I thought I would let them go proper like. Even though they were so large I KNEW what
was gonna happen when I turned them, I said what the Hell, let them flower. Put in 2 nets, a foot apart, top about as high as I could go and still have head room for
the twin hot lights in the small Cab. Flipped them. Attempted EVERYTHING, lol, well, didnt try the weed eater..............they were too big, too strong, too full of 1700 PPM
and growing 3 inches a day some days................I GAVE UP............lol.................Zipped it shut, let em do their thing, may the best girls win........