First grow ever with unknown strain using full organic soil and nutes

polo the don

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Ok cool cool thank you for the knowledge bro! I'm doing this grow to prepare myself for some seed bank seeds I could use some tips on germination and should I hit them with a little nirvanna during germ or after they sprout?
When I germ seeds I soak them in a shot glass of tap water for 24hrs then put them in a paper towel moistened with the same water I soaked them in, place in a zip-loc bag until they get a tap root, usually a day or two, then plant. Make sure to do the soaking and paper towel thing in a dark and warm place.
I don't even know what liquid nirvana is, lol. Plain tap water is all they need.
 

Arris

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That's what I did last time and I think I drowned some of the seeds so I'll just be more careful
If the seed don't crack in a day then it probably never will and just rot. If you just toss them in a cup and water take them out in a day and into dirt or you will rot the seed, you just want to saturate the seed and it should germ. I grow only from seed and I don't know how many haven't germinated over time but it happens, alot.
 

Kael

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When I germ seeds I soak them in a shot glass of tap water for 24hrs then put them in a paper towel moistened with the same water I soaked them in, place in a zip-loc bag until they get a tap root, usually a day or two, then plant. Make sure to do the soaking and paper towel thing in a dark and warm place.
I don't even know what liquid nirvana is, lol. Plain tap water is all they need.
Awsome! Hopefully I won't kill the seed bank seeds now lol
 

Arris

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It's ph balanced at 5.8-6.8 it has bat guano, sea kelp, earthworm castings sagum peat moss, peralite and A lot of micro nutes for the roots. I was going to mix it with happy frog pottin soil too but I didn't want to go to crazy with everything.
FF soil all brands as far as I know are hot so you won't be wanting to give your plants fertilizer for a while or you're going to burn them. The PH is good but it is going to drift so you going to have to watch it. Catch the run-of every time you water and check the PH. Keep it around 6.0/6.3.
 

Kael

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FF soil all brands as far as I know are hot so you won't be wanting to give your plants fertilizer for a while or you're going to burn them. The PH is good but it is going to drift so you going to have to watch it. Catch the run-of every time you water and check the PH. Keep it around 6.0/6.3.
I don't have any ph strips but I'm getting those first thing tommarrow. This is my sick plant should I just pull the little guy or can he still make it?image.jpgimage.jpg
 

Arris

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I don't have any ph strips but I'm getting those first thing tommarrow. This is my sick plant should I just pull the little guy or can he still make it?View attachment 3275532View attachment 3275535
Forget the strips and get a pen even them 10 dollar ones will work better than a strip.
Code:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Digital-Pocket-PH-Meter-Water-Tester-Pen-LCD-Monitor-Pool-Aquarium-Laboratory-/201148702320?pt=US_Garden_Tools&hash=item2ed5659e70
I personally use these. When the battery is dead buy another(in my case every 3 or 4 months because I keep forgetting to turn it off).
That sprout looks fine except for a little burn and I accredit that to the FF. Give it a few days and see if it grows as fast as the others. A thought just occurred to me? how are you testing PH now? or are you just giving it tap water and hoping for the best?
 
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Kael

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Forget the strips and get a pen even them 10 dollar ones will work better than a strip.
Code:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Digital-Pocket-PH-Meter-Water-Tester-Pen-LCD-Monitor-Pool-Aquarium-Laboratory-/201148702320?pt=US_Garden_Tools&hash=item2ed5659e70
I personally use these. When the battery is dead buy another(in my case every 3 or 4 months because I keep forgetting to turn it off).
That sprout looks fine except for a little burn and I accredit that to the FF. Give it a few days and see if it grows as fast as the others.
It was doing really bad it had gotten glassy around the end of the leaf and then the yellowing set in from the tips and worked it's way back I think I was infected by the fungus cause I used miracle gro from lowes an two days later there was fungus all over the top soil layer that's when I transplanted and she's been a fighter all of the sprouts were nearly dead till I upgraded my soil.
 

Kael

Member
Forget the strips and get a pen even them 10 dollar ones will work better than a strip.
Code:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Digital-Pocket-PH-Meter-Water-Tester-Pen-LCD-Monitor-Pool-Aquarium-Laboratory-/201148702320?pt=US_Garden_Tools&hash=item2ed5659e70
I personally use these. When the battery is dead buy another(in my case every 3 or 4 months because I keep forgetting to turn it off).
That sprout looks fine except for a little burn and I accredit that to the FF. Give it a few days and see if it grows as fast as the others. A thought just occurred to me? how are you testing PH now? or are you just giving it tap water and hoping for the best?
All the Advandced nutrients have a self balancing ph from what the site says. But I've been using purified spring water the whole time is that ok for The ph? And I bought Revive which has cal an mag in it that's for ph right?
 

polo the don

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Forget the strips and get a pen even them 10 dollar ones will work better than a strip.
Code:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Digital-Pocket-PH-Meter-Water-Tester-Pen-LCD-Monitor-Pool-Aquarium-Laboratory-/201148702320?pt=US_Garden_Tools&hash=item2ed5659e70
I personally use these. When the battery is dead buy another(in my case every 3 or 4 months because I keep forgetting to turn it off).
That sprout looks fine except for a little burn and I accredit that to the FF. Give it a few days and see if it grows as fast as the others. A thought just occurred to me? how are you testing PH now? or are you just giving it tap water and hoping for the best?
You could use something like this for pH control.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005PQBMOW/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1413588418&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40

It has pH drops and pH up and down. Works well.
 

Arris

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It was doing really bad it had gotten glassy around the end of the leaf and then the yellowing set in from the tips and worked it's way back I think I was infected by the fungus cause I used miracle gro from lowes an two days later there was fungus all over the top soil layer that's when I transplanted and she's been a fighter all of the sprouts were nearly dead till I upgraded my soil.
I guess I should have read the thread. Oh so now I know why they are shaggy. Well give them time and see, marijuana is very resilient. I have literally snapped over inch and a half thick branches leaving nasty slits and holes and it doesn't even slow them down.
 

Arris

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All the Advandced nutrients have a self balancing ph from what the site says. But I've been using purified spring water the whole time is that ok for The ph?
So you a AN man, Me too. I guess you got the PH perfect line? I don't spend the extra and just buy JJ. The spring water should be neutral and the nutes should prevent drift so just be careful is all and test the PH. Don't be giving them any nutes yet. A plant should be able to survive for a week by itself alone, give it food and you can kill it.
 

Kael

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So you a AN man, Me too. I guess you got the PH perfect line? I don't spend the extra and just buy JJ. The spring water should be neutral and the nutes should prevent drift so just be careful is all and test the PH. Don't be giving them any nutes yet. A plant should be able to survive for a week by itself alone, give it food and you can kill it.
So you a AN man, Me too. I guess you got the PH perfect line? I don't spend the extra and just buy JJ. The spring water should be neutral and the nutes should prevent drift so just be careful is all and test the PH. Don't be giving them any nutes yet. A plant should be able to survive for a week by itself alone, give it food and you can kill it.
ok gotcha so when should I start them on the iguana juice grow, cause I don't wanna kill them and is it better to foliar feed or water when using nutes?and I really appreciate the help an knowledge man there is a lot of shitty info on how to grow that is misleading and completely false, glad to finally get some real advice bro.
 

Arris

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ok gotcha so when should I start them on the iguana juice grow, cause I don't wanna kill them and is it better to foliar feed or water when using nutes?
The only AN stuff I use is Jungle Juice G,M,B and Big Bud and Bud Candy. Never used any of the vitamins and supplements because Remember we are growing a plant not a child. You will probably get a great plant if used right but you can also kill it in a night if you don't. Foliar feeding is dangerous in my opinion because you can very easily burn off all your leaves if the mix is too strong. I don't grow in soil(dirt)anymore but when I did I fed the plants about twice a month and watered when needed. I got a thread here with pic's of my grow's.https://www.rollitup.org/t/new-grows-looking-nice.847063/#post-10978144
 

Kael

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The only AN stuff I use is Jungle Juice G,M,B and Big Bud and Bud Candy. Never used any of the vitamins and supplements because Remember we are growing a plant not a child. You will probably get a great plant if used right but you can also kill it in a night if you don't. Foliar feeding is dangerous in my opinion because you can very easily burn off all your leaves if the mix is too strong. I don't grow in soil(dirt)anymore but when I did I fed the plants about twice a month and watered when needed. I got a thread here with pic's of my grow's.https://www.rollitup.org/t/new-grows-looking-nice.847063/#post-10978144
holy shit you grow og?! That's the top strain in the world right now man( I'm a subscriber to high times and they named it number one of all strains) my hats off to you sir, and that's the kinda setup I want to work up to one day. I have some seeds from bc depot comin in I don't know if you've ever grown the black before but it's 90% indica and both phenotypes are good for the space I have I grabbed some seed starting plugs they are called ionic root riot they are supposed To be top notch for germing seeds so hopefully here in a couple weeks you can help me grow those baby's huge!
 

Arris

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holy shit you grow og?! That's the top strain in the world right now man( I'm a subscriber to high times and they named it number one of all strains) my hats off to you sir, and that's the kinda setup I want to work up to one day. I have some seeds from bc depot comin in I don't know if you've ever grown the black before but it's 90% indica and both phenotypes are good for the space I have I grabbed some seed starting plugs they are called ionic root riot they are supposed To be top notch for germing seeds so hopefully here in a couple weeks you can help me grow those baby's huge!
Are you Canadian? I am and get my seed from BC Seed King. I have no problem with suggesting or giving tips on how to grow or what to do but you have to be your own judge when it come to your plants and don't take someone else word for it and then wake up in the morning to find dead plants. I'm no expert I can just comment on how and what I have done in the past. Btw I only grow Kush, Love the plant. I use plugs Rapid rooter works great. Your plugs should too. I'm a big indica fan so them plants are no stranger to me.
 

Kael

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Are you Canadian? I am and get my seed from BC Seed King. I have no problem with suggesting or giving tips on how to grow or what to do but you have to be your own judge when it come to your plants and don't take someone else word for it and then wake up in the morning to find dead plants. I'm no expert I can just comment on how and what I have done in the past. Btw I only grow Kush, Love the plant.
I read you loud and clear man about taking responsibility for messin up anything with my plants I know you aren't an expert but your more knowledgeable than me on this on so I'll take your advice an won't cry if they die lol and no I'm not Canadian I just know that Canada has the best genetics in the world and there seed banks have Guarantee on shipping lol and I was going to grow bc kush but it's super smelly so I'll have to wait.
 

Arris

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I read you loud and clear man about taking responsibility for messin up anything with my plants I know you aren't an expert but your more knowledgeable than me on this on so I'll take your advice an won't cry if they die lol and no I'm not Canadian I just know that Canada has the best genetics in the world and there seed banks have Guarantee on shipping lol
Don't be going and saying stuff like that(about canada is best)least you get trolled. I haven't been a member here long but my brother was(rip) and I remember the nights he and a handful of other well known members would troll the shit out of new members. BC Seed King is not a bank but rather a breeder. Theres really no guarantee in sending seeds in the mail as that is the illegal part the possession is not. at least here in Canada.
 

Kael

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Don't be going and saying stuff like that(about canada is best)least you get trolled. I haven't been a member here long but my brother was(rip) and I remember the nights he and a handful of other well known members would troll the shit out of new members. BC Seed King is not a bank but rather a breeder. Theres really no guarantee in sending seeds in the mail as that is the illegal part the possession is not. at least here in Canada.
I have no idea what trolled is, and chill man I just said Canada has great genetics cause it's true you guys do and the guarantee thing was a joke and did you not get trolled when you first joined? ( I'm guessing trolled is like mentoring someone new?)
 
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