First Grow! : CFL/HPS 8 Plants

i dont know what to make of this..and plants are 40 + days old..look how little...wtf??

did you start flowering right away or something?? it looks like you vegged for like a week haha wait are they clones?

those are clones my friend (ppp) and rooted very nicely i might add and the sad part is there 40 days old..ive been phing it @ 5.8-6.1,but only after i was trying a phing method (found posted right here on riu faq) of 5.2..that when i 1st noticed mag def. now adjusted it has packed on some nice dense dus,but not what i was expecting from a high yeilding strain..so back to the drawing board

did you go straight to flowering after they rooted? they just look like small clones with no veg time, then again i dont know much about this hydro bullshit haha still waitin for mine to root

yeah i agree it looks like they were given no veg time

thats exactly the plan with sog style grow...straight from cloner to flowering tray...with no vegg time...but thats not why there small...i flushed and cleaned out res.. and they are doing well...was suppose to be getting my 1st harvest next week,but being the whole stunted thing im hoping i dont have to much longer than 3 weeks at best (extra 2 weeks),but i wanna smoke sooo badddd..you know what this feels like when your right around the corner from ya very 1st harvest?...has anybody ever cut bud off while still in flowering?..lol

well if you not going to give them any veg time you might want to think about cutting bigger clones next time haha and yes i start clippin my shit a week or two early if im dry haha anything to get me high man!!!

So what would i need to do after i take a cut??...and how is the taste?..do you oven dry,microwave or do you just fire it up??

DKskater75 said:

you might want to think about cutting bigger clones next time

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haha and yes i start clippin my shit a week or two early if im dry haha anything to get me high man!!!

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YEAH I KNOW IM GONNA START THE "GET A HARVEST EVERY 2 WEEKS"..SO I DEFINETLY KNOW I NEED BIGGER CUTTINGS (WAS DOING 4-6" CUTTINGS NOW 6-8")...I THINK I GOT IT DOWN FROM THE TIME WE 1ST CONNECTED ON HERE...GROWING POT ISNT REALLY THAT HARD...YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM WHEN IN VEGG,BUT ONCE IN FLOWERING YOU REALLY START TO DO LESS...I BE LOOKING FOR SHIT TO DO...NOW THAT I HAVE ARRIVED...THE WAIT IS THE WORSE PART....I NEED TO SMOKE!!!
IM LITERALLY SMOKING RABBIT FEED RIGHT NOW!!!

hahahah gross man. i just clip off a little nug, trim it and put it under a hot lamp for like 5 minutes. i have a bulb that you use for a reptile cage haha 150w the fucker is hot, i think you can just put it in the microwave or some shit too theres a few threads on here about quick drying try searchin for some more ideas

I have tried straight from clone also, with the same results.
My opinion is that if a cutting is taken off a mature female which is ready to flower, this is the outcome. Maybe if cuttings are taken off a femminized plant before it has been forced to sex or is old enough, the cutting will continue a week or two of veg, but if the cuttings already had pistils, she will just bud. This is great if you are growing inside your computer case hiding it from mom but I know you are not! This straight 12/12 works from seed also due to 2-3 weeks of growth.

Although some strains will stretch more, I think in general your clones need 1-2 weeks of veg time if for nothing else, for time for a root system which will support (transpirationally not physically) a nice cola. I have been experimenting with taller cuttings and so far with the strains I am working with: takes longer, node length will increase so only cuttings with tight nodes already, and the lower growth takes a real beating while slowing rooting. For me the answer seems to be PATIENCE and thinking ahead to have clones ready which are the right size when space opens up in the flower box. This is still a work in progress. I am trying to get down to plants finishing at about 18"-2'.

Hayduke said:

I have tried straight from clone also, with the same results.
My opinion is that if a cutting is taken off a mature female which is ready to flower, this is the outcome. Maybe if cuttings are taken off a femminized plant before it has been forced to sex or is old enough, the cutting will continue a week or two of veg, but if the cuttings already had pistils, she will just bud. This is great if you are growing inside your computer case hiding it from mom but I know you are not! This straight 12/12 works from seed also due to 2-3 weeks of growth.

Although some strains will stretch more, I think in general your clones need 1-2 weeks of veg time if for nothing else, for time for a root system which will support (transpirationally not physically) a nice cola. I have been experimenting with taller cuttings and so far with the strains I am working with: takes longer, node length will increase so only cuttings with tight nodes already, and the lower growth takes a real beating while slowing rooting. For me the answer seems to be PATIENCE and thinking ahead to have clones ready which are the right size when space opens up in the flower box. This is still a work in progress. I am trying to get down to plants finishing at about 18"-2'.

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sorry i dont get what ya saying...from the countless hrs of research on growing..everone says the same thing about cutting going directly into tray (no vegg time)..they all say plants will continue to grow as the plants are still in transition and will take some time to go into straight flowering causing it to continue vegging for the next 2-3 weeks..maybe thats what you were saying all along..not sure,but plants dont start flowering just because they have pistils showing and in 12/12 cycle..they will still vegg..but thats good for me..just 1 less growing phase i have to deal with (just straight into flowering tray no transfer from vegg room or what not)

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sorry i dont get what ya saying...from the countless hrs of research on growing..everone says the same thing about cutting going directly into tray (no vegg time)..they all say plants will continue to grow as the plants are still in transition and will take some time to go into straight flowering causing it to continue vegging for the next 2-3 weeks..maybe thats what you were saying all along..not sure,but plants dont start flowering just because they have pistils showing and in 12/12 cycle..they will still vegg..but thats good for me..just 1 less growing phase i have to deal with (just straight into flowering tray no transfer from vegg room or what not)

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Yeah totally agree. Just from my limited experience, a 4-5 inch clone will finish at 6-10". Mine start to flower at the same rate as do 12"-24" girls and stretch about the same. As some stretch 50%-300% I would guess that the strain matters.

I had seen your post several times and thought to comment just because I tried the same thing on my first grow, but decided not to because you have alot more experience and are in hydro. At 38 I am still learning to keep my mouth shut I sure would not mean to argue with all of the research. All I really know is what I have seen. Good Luck Paper Dude!

well shit, i took my clones from a plant that had been flowering for a week or two or already, then switched it back to veg for a about a week before taking these cuttings. so are you saying that these might not grow much more once i put them into these hydo system i built. im just about to put them in tomorrow i think haha theyve been rooting for a good two weeks now, either way im just experimenting really so i can know waht to expect when i start doin this hydro for real

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well shit, i took my clones from a plant that had been flowering for a week or two or already, then switched it back to veg for a about a week before taking these cuttings. so are you saying that these might not grow much more once i put them into these hydo system i built. im just about to put them in tomorrow i think haha theyve been rooting for a good two weeks now, either way im just experimenting really so i can know waht to expect when i start doin this hydro for real

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You talkin to me?
Well I don't really know shit! I was worried that your clones would do the re-veg thing. Remember my K-train clones? I did not mention anything as I did not want to send the negativity your way...burn some sage while you read this! Experimentation is the only way to really know...everything else without using the scientific method and good documentation is just hearsay.

Have you signed Stoney's petition yet? It is free and you can be anonymous if you want. Link in my sig!!

i cant find the link but read through this post..google "get a harvest every 2 weeks"..and i dont have any experience hayduke..its just sine i started learning about growing (mid last year) i really have been LEARNING about growing...I LOVE IT!!..but if your using ebb & flow...that post will be the best way to go IMO...

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i cant find the link but read through this post..google "get a harvest every 2 weeks"..and i dont have any experience hayduke..its just sine i started learning about growing (mid last year) i really have been LEARNING about growing...I LOVE IT!!..but if your using ebb & flow...that post will be the best way to go IMO...

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Yeah I have read it and many others as this was my original plan. I think the constant supply of nutes and air make it work better also. I started in soil and as my county limits my plant numbers to 12 total and 6 in flower, growing a little larger plants seem like the answer to me. I have a new friend who has grown for 15 years and until recently in a top floor Dr.'s office in downtown Oakland (oaksterdam) with like 15 rooms. He has tried many different methods and his response when I ask about this method for purpose of better yields, his response is non of the big time guys grow this way, they all grow larger plants.

Of course it obviously works as we have read and seen, at least, pictures of the proof. I made several mistakes on my first grow, but the 6 OG Kush clones that cost me $100 yielded 16 grams, and the 3 headband @ $45 yielded 7g's. (I have re-vegged the headbands which have given many clones and are now in flower)

For me, in my space, somewhere between single cola clones and trees seems to be best. I still like the idea of a perpetual harvest and I put 1 or 2 in about every 21 days, which seems to be good for moving plants through the drying closet, trimming to paper bags, and manicuring to jars.

One common factor with most of the SOG grows that I have read are big bud genetics. Even SeeMoreBuds huge yields are not just from his magical green fingers but I think the Mango has Big Bud in it. This is great if you grow to make extra cash, but I have found that alot of the big bud genetics are not a smoke I would want to have to smoke daily as they are not super potent. I am still trying to find a strain that balances the crazy crystal covered yumminess with heavy yields. My buddy grows romulan for this and has grown Morning Glory and says it is the real deal, a heavy yielder and a 20% THCer.

My Kush x Trainwreck is wonderful smoke but yields about a zip as a full size multiple cola plant. As a straight to flower clone would be lucky to be 5-7g's This would quickly turn my grow into a 50 stem grow. There are only a few counties left in Cali which allow 99 plants or a square footage of canopy limit, City of Oakland, Humboldt outside of Eureka and Furtuna, and maybe Santa Cruz County. I think SF dropped to 25 and San Diego (city of) and Chula (juana) Vista may be under 24 total.

Even if one is breaking the law anyway plant #'s count, at some point it becomes federal and then mandatory minimums with no parole...This will end soon.

Damn I need to shut up and smoke!

Anyway this is all just crap in my head, I look forward to watching your next very successful SOG!!

well,if laws are ya issue then by all means stay within ya guidelines please,but if im gone break the law..im gone break the law..im not the type of guy whos gonna robb a bank or no crazy shit like that,but if im in a state/city where its illegal period.i might as well get something in return than just feeding my heavy (and i mean heavy) smoke habit..so craming in as many plants into a tight space was the answer for me..and about the strain thing..jack herrer wasnt/isnt strong enough for you?...ive been talking to the guy who i USE to buy from says he gets close to a zip off the jack and hes doing sog...shit!..i cant wait!!

I sure would not mean to argue with all of the research.

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sorry if i sounded like i was attacking ya comment i thought you were saying they wont vegg if put in flowering at a certain time or something like that ..im high as always

Hey DK, what did you end up doing about your thrips? They f'n flew south for the winter and are vacationing in my garden