First Grow: Bagseed Surprise!

baddfrog0221

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just found three of the best bag seeds iv ever found. all in one lil bud, the only i could find in two ounces of dank that i bought. two spouted plantin them tommorow.. bet.
Sounds like fun dude, I want to find more dank seeds! I think there are a lot of swap meet around my area I have to get out to one.
 

baddfrog0221

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All the plants seem to be doing really well. The hempy bucket plants have had their leaves straighten out a lot and they are regaining green coloring. :leaf:

All the plants were watered today 3 days after the last watering. I have been doing 4 day spacing but they seem to be drinking like mad. I am only doing 750ml per water, I would rather water more then too much and have a flood on the floor. I fed two of the plants with age old organics bloom 5-10-5. I also dropped a little 10-2-1 guano into the mix for one of the plants whose leaves were yellowing somewhat. :?:

Next watering I will feed the soil plant again. All the plants have too many nodes to count at this point. I hope they start to thicken up more as the days go by. I'll finally get some bud porn!!!:clap:

Peace.

This shit is legal:hug:
 

hightyde27

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You said you smelled a pungent aroma from the root mass on one earlier, and then in this one, you said that your holes are drilled 1" from the bottom for drainage. That leave an inch at the bottoms of your buckets to collect moisture. Soil medium needs to FULLY drain all the water. And I wouldn't be too caught up over exactly how much water you give them. With the mediums you're using I'd suggest watering when they need it. A good rule with soil is to water when the top inch and a half of the soil is dry. I irrigate my soil with 3 times the volume of the container, i.e 5 gallon pots get 15 gallons of water. That saturates the soil pretty heavily but if the drainage is set up properly, it will take older, looser , soil out through the bottom of the buckets. When they start getting a little low I throw fresh soil (I use Happy Frog) on the top. It acts to help freshly fertilize every time I water, saving money on nutes. It saves me from such problems as salt lockout, nutrient burn, or deficiencies but leaves me vulnerable to fungus/mold. Which I control with beneficials and heat.
That 400w is gonna blow you away. I'd suggest putting your CFL's along the sides of the plants, on the outside edge at about half of the plants height. The 400w is going to way overpower your cfl's, making them almost useless as top light (they shadow plants from stronger light). However, I've seen CFL's used on the sides in HPS grows and they make the buds friggin beautiful. The also keep mildew down by lighting up shady parts of the plant.
Hope this helps!
 

baddfrog0221

Active Member
You said you smelled a pungent aroma from the root mass on one earlier, and then in this one, you said that your holes are drilled 1" from the bottom for drainage. That leave an inch at the bottoms of your buckets to collect moisture. Soil medium needs to FULLY drain all the water. And I wouldn't be too caught up over exactly how much water you give them. With the mediums you're using I'd suggest watering when they need it. A good rule with soil is to water when the top inch and a half of the soil is dry. I irrigate my soil with 3 times the volume of the container, i.e 5 gallon pots get 15 gallons of water. That saturates the soil pretty heavily but if the drainage is set up properly, it will take older, looser , soil out through the bottom of the buckets. When they start getting a little low I throw fresh soil (I use Happy Frog) on the top. It acts to help freshly fertilize every time I water, saving money on nutes. It saves me from such problems as salt lockout, nutrient burn, or deficiencies but leaves me vulnerable to fungus/mold. Which I control with beneficials and heat.
That 400w is gonna blow you away. I'd suggest putting your CFL's along the sides of the plants, on the outside edge at about half of the plants height. The 400w is going to way overpower your cfl's, making them almost useless as top light (they shadow plants from stronger light). However, I've seen CFL's used on the sides in HPS grows and they make the buds friggin beautiful. The also keep mildew down by lighting up shady parts of the plant.
Hope this helps!
For sure dude. I am not having a problem with my soil grow though, they are doing fine. I am trying two different styles. The "hempy" hydro style is the grow that I am having the problem with although I would thank the pros that helped me take care of it. It seems that the H2O2 really helped. My ladies that are growing in soil are eating like a mother fucker. I give them 750ml of water every three days I haven't added any extra soil yet but i probably could. I am using daylight CFL's around the outside of the plants which has given their leaves birght blue green veins which look strong and healthy. I have a slight yellowing on the bottom leaves of a few plants but I don't think it's anything serious. Thanks for the watering tips I might try it sometime.

Next question my HPS is 12" from the top of my tallest plant. Should I raise? I've seen read that some people go between 16-18" but I have felt the temp at the 12" level and it is not too hot. Also the leaves show no sign of burning. Any tips on light height would be appreciated. Wish I had a better camera to capture some good shots. I'll post some pics from the next watering.
 

hightyde27

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A 400w hps is an awesome tool but can be kind of tricky. If the light is too far away, your plants with stretch, and your node spacing will suck; too close and you burn em. I would advise in spending the extra dough on the super HPS, the counter part to your MH bulb. I had mine slammed on the plants for the entire grow last time and didn't see any sign of burning, except for once, when the plant got within just a few inches of the bulb, like inside 4".
I do it like this:
Keep the light at a good distance, >18", for vertical growth, and slam the lights down, <10", for all the other times. I'll post some pics in a bit, I have some duties 'round the farm first. :)
 

baddfrog0221

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Chugging along nicely. All plants are doing great and love the Age Old nutrients they are getting. Day after feeding them I observed longer and straighter white hairs on all the buds. As well as a nice helix shape taking form on the tallest cola. Here's a picture update. 025.jpg024.jpg023.jpg

Crystals are appearing on the top leaf sets and around each node. There is a strange lack of smell, or at least it's not as strong as I thought it would be I am only using one small Ona Gel block with fresh linen scent. Seems like I pick up a citrus note from the bud, they also get stinky after watering but not too bad.
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Anyone want to help me work out an ID for these girls...? I am pretty sure they are Indica dominant, like I said they have little smell. I got them from a bag of regs about 2 years ago. Any ideas would be tight. So far I am pretending it's northern lights. I'll let you know how the smoke is that will be the next clue...:blsmoke:

030.jpg029.jpg Good luck and happy growing!:peace:
 

Grandizer V

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Checkin in from Anteres, moon-dweller! The babies look beautiful, very impressive journal dude. Will be hunting for more flexo-max silverstar sheet magic next week. How's the Smurf-Hammer coming? (As I've decided it will now be called) Glad to see the previous issues with the mystery plants concerning yellowing and whatnot don't seem detrimental in any major way. You a bad man. Papers sent out btw, excitement abounds in our abode.

Patient Zero out, we shall meet on our next solar circling, perhaps on the day of Mon.
 

baddfrog0221

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Checkin in from Anteres, moon-dweller! The babies look beautiful, very impressive journal dude. Will be hunting for more flexo-max silverstar sheet magic next week. How's the Smurf-Hammer coming? (As I've decided it will now be called) Glad to see the previous issues with the mystery plants concerning yellowing and whatnot don't seem detrimental in any major way. You a bad man. Papers sent out btw, excitement abounds in our abode.

Patient Zero out, we shall meet on our next solar circling, perhaps on the day of Mon.
Ahh yes communication recieved. Blue smurfs seem quite happy, I'll be glad when I have a harvest to share, I can't wait!
 

baddfrog0221

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Watching them fill out is very exciting. I am waiting for the perfect opportunity to cut a sample:blsmoke:. Seems like every time I look at a bud and think about chopping it I can picture it at full growth. I restrain myself knowing that if I leave it, potentially it's size could double and the taste will improve! :hump:

Watered the seedlings today, starting them under 12/12 lighting was not my initial plan but I don't have much of another choice. They love the 400W HPS and the daylight Fluorescent bulbs I have. They have grown 3 to 4 times as fast as the first seedlings I made. The difference has been astounding, knowing the speed that they are going they should be done a few weeks earlier then I was able to get my first grow done. I'll keep posted and let you know. Need to purchase another batch of soil for them when they are ready to move into the bigger pots. I want to plant more seeds and get more going but I don't have the space or lighting to hold more then 5 adult plants at a time. I may have to reconfigure the grow room to increase the plant holding power. The lights will be switched back to MH as soon as the first grow is harvested, I will also go back to a vegetative light cycle so the seedlings can enjoy a little Chlorophyll A production.

LST and topping are a must for the second grow I undertake. Can't wait for results. Any ID yet?

PEACE!:joint:
 

chainseeker

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Cool bad have patients. Every time I peek in my cab I picture myself breaking up those sweet little buds. Waiting could be the hardest part about the whole thing. I too am goint to start the new beans in the flowering cycle when I'm about two - four weeks from harvest so if u would let me know how that works. Have u thought about ordering seeds from attitude or somewhere. Mine came in in less than a week.
 

baddfrog0221

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Cool bad have patients. Every time I peek in my cab I picture myself breaking up those sweet little buds. Waiting could be the hardest part about the whole thing. I too am goint to start the new beans in the flowering cycle when I'm about two - four weeks from harvest so if u would let me know how that works. Have u thought about ordering seeds from attitude or somewhere. Mine came in in less than a week.
Would love to order some! I know there is still some risk involved in doing that, I am only legal at the state level. I know there is a swap meet down the street from my house but I haven't gotten to it yet. Legal patients and caregivers meet up and swap strands.

I want to get the TGA genetics after watching subcool's forum for the last week or so. I have been drooling over the THC coated pics he posts.

I have noticed one peculiar thing about the seedlings I started during the flowering cycle. They all have a distinct bend towards the fluorescent lights which are emitting the blue spectrum. They seem to point away from the HPS. I think it's important to have a variety of spectrum for every stage of plant growth. Although for vegetation having just blue light works fine which is why I love the MH!!! Also they will get much stronger roots from having so much darkness early on. That will be a very good thing. Good luck and happy growing!
 

baddfrog0221

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:joint:The Master Of Zen:joint:

Growing strong!

The flowers are filling up. Smell is still rather reserved I have to stick my nose right into the bud to get a whiff and it's pretty skunky with a hint of citrus. When resin rubs off on my arm I can smell it for a long time. The leaves around the bud sites are getting nice and resinated and the buds are very sticky icky. I'm drying out the first sample, started at 2.7 grams and is down to 1.8 grams after a day of drying.
Will smoke soon!:blsmoke:

The babies are doing really well, they will grow much faster then the original unknown bagseed strand. They love 400W and said they can't wait for their MH. :hump:

Soon as I cut and cure I will start Purple haze and Purple Power which should be fun. After reading The Daily Bud I realize I will have to make some changes to get the best purple colors. Possibly get an A/C system hooked up or wait to flower until fall when the temps are colder at night... WHATEVER!

PEACE.
 

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hightyde27

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I love my MH. Beautiful pieces of equipment. I use it to veg with cfl's on the side.

You can always order seeds through a proxy network using cash or a money order. I would check with the seed companies, tho. Some of them, if they don't take money orders directly (regional issues), will often go through a second company in a more friendly country, like England. I went with Mandala seeds and had no issues at all. CD package from Europe doesn't look like anything suspicious, and I think my post master here is a head anyway;-).
 

baddfrog0221

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Just got back from my Wedding. Was a long weekend away from the operations. Plants are adding on massive weight and getting more red hairs. I need to start researching when to cut. I'll take some pics when the lights flip on again. The seedlings that I started on the 12/12 cycle have already sexed! They are way too small to start flowering. I am going to remove them from the room every night so they get a brief period of extra light and hopefully they go back into vegetative mode. I was able to remove the only male from the group, it's nice to know that is out of the way already. I think I have about two weeks left but time will tell.
 
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