first grow, all help welcome

Good luck! Personally I've never liked ffof with added perlite "ONLY" in the red solo cups. Idk if it's just me but the extra perlite and the lil red cup when I water it the soil like separates and creates tons of air holes throughout creating me a week root system.

Also lookin forward to seeing the results on those dreamwalkers might have to pick up a couple for my next years outdoor grow cause I want to grow a skywalker cross and a blue dream cross and what better way to do it then in one strain!

brian arellano said:

o and still no nutes plants seem ok but maybe a little lighter green at the very top. i do plan on giving them a low dose of the general organics nutes on the next watering in about 3-4 days and also ordered 1 gallon pots to transplant and will be moving them to there new home once i get them, within the week, and ill start the topping half my plants and cutting down to the 3rd node on the other half once they get used to there home in the one gallon pot of coarse just smoked some golden goat from the dispensery in town and feeling very mellow hoping my plants are close to as good!!

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They look good. If you are in FF and they look a little hungry, don't nute them up... just transplant into a bigger pot. The fresh soil will have enough N for the roots to work into for a week or two of more veg. If you want to veg longer than that, you may need some grow juice, but I wouldn't give it to them before that... and definitely not in the solo cup.

Let 'em go til you get your new pots, and keep it up... they look good so far.

Edit: if you are getting any kind of growth on your soil... let them dry out completely for a few days before watering.

You need to let them dry out to get oxygen to the roots anyways, but most definitely if you have some mold/etc on your soil.

brian arellano said:

so finally started my second grow here in Colorado and got some ffof mixed with perlite for this grow. my first grow i posted ended quickly due to the choice of inferior top soil that i got from walmart really goes to show how you shouldnt skimp out on anything so here goes round 2. i have 2 Dreamwalker (from what i understand some cross of skywalker and blue dream) seeds i got form dispensarybag and 3 purple cotton seed (purple x cotton candy i belive) from bag as well and finally a random bag seed my brother found in an OZ he got form the dispensary but not sure on strain, im not to worried about amazing genetics right now since im just learning and i figured i would come here for more advice so here goes my second setup any advice or comments would be much appreciated.



only have the dream walker and bag seed pictures right now i started them first with the hope of getting 3 tangerine dream clones from a friend that had gnats so i turned them down and germinated 3 purple cotton seeds that all took and are looking good ill try to get some pics of them soon.



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sack the fox farm man if u plan on putting them in bigger pots go some good soil with some nice nutes best way to learn how to grow fox farm is for people that do not no how to use nutes or grow a plant right its like dutch master one for them people that are to dumb to mix there own nutes u will get ok results with fox farm but if u use right soil with good nutes u will get a pull 10x better

rob333 said:

sack the fox farm man if u plan on putting them in bigger pots go some good soil with some nice nutes best way to learn how to grow fox farm is for people that do not no how to use nutes or grow a plant right its like dutch master one for them people that are to dumb to mix there own nutes u will get ok results with fox farm but if u use right soil with good nutes u will get a pull 10x better

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Sigh... with the rob333 guy again... dude you've never harvested a plant in your life, we've been over this, remember?

https://www.rollitup.org/t/may-i-get-some-advice-please.850709/page-2

You literally have a journal for a DWC even though you swear you've never done hydro... you have an LED grow-room, even though you post pics of a plant in HPS light... And you have yet to show me anything you have ever harvested.

Stop trolling new growers...

TheYokel said:

Sigh... with the rob333 guy again... dude you've never harvested a plant in your life, we've been over this, remember?

https://www.rollitup.org/t/may-i-get-some-advice-please.850709/page-2

You literally have a journal for a DWC even though you swear you've never done hydro... you have an LED grow-room, even though you post pics of a plant in HPS light... And you have yet to show me anything you have ever harvested.

Stop trolling new growers...

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do i need to come on here and bitch slap u again like i did on the other 2 threads ??

TheYokel said:

Sigh... with the rob333 guy again... dude you've never harvested a plant in your life, we've been over this, remember?

https://www.rollitup.org/t/may-i-get-some-advice-please.850709/page-2

You literally have a journal for a DWC even though you swear you've never done hydro... you have an LED grow-room, even though you post pics of a plant in HPS light... And you have yet to show me anything you have ever harvested.

Stop trolling new growers...

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shut ya pie hole and go grow with your training wheels man

TheYokel said:

They look good. If you are in FF and they look a little hungry, don't nute them up... just transplant into a bigger pot. The fresh soil will have enough N for the roots to work into for a week or two of more veg. If you want to veg longer than that, you may need some grow juice, but I wouldn't give it to them before that... and definitely not in the solo cup.

Let 'em go til you get your new pots, and keep it up... they look good so far.

Edit: if you are getting any kind of growth on your soil... let them dry out completely for a few days before watering.

You need to let them dry out to get oxygen to the roots anyways, but most definitely if you have some mold/etc on your soil.

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thank you very much for the advice i was thinking the same thing about the feeding just easy to get nervous when it comes to the babys .... the pots just shipped so should be here in a few days i believe, and of course i got my 3000k flower bulbs today but they sent 95 watt vho bulb sigh now to start the return process.


and finally i fell like there is deffinetly a slow in growth so will transplant as soon as i get the new pots and add a little less perlite to the mix so they have a few more nutes... thanks for the interest in the grow ill try to post as soon as i get a day off

sorry i havent posted in so long been crazy at work havent had much of a day off in a while but here are some pics. and FYI i have started mainlining 3 of the plants and the bagseed i found seems to be doing the best the dream walker the worst it really doesnt want to grow the branches and the purple cotton is looking ok too. really hope i get a few girls..



i also got a 12 bulb t5 from ebay for aroung 145 it was a great deal but you get what you pay for. the light gets much hotter with tenps almost reaching 90 looking at getting some ice moved in there a few times a day but either way i have the plants that im not mainlining getting ready to but so itll be 2 purple cotton plants and a dream walker plant just going to replant them the purple cotton in 3 gallon pots and the dreamwalker in a 5 gallon pot

I would tell you that $145 is way too much for any fluorescent fixture...

But the noding on those things are fucking beautiful.

Good job man!

It looks a little hungry. I am always hesitant to say to add anything to a plant in veg... but you may want to add like 5ml of some grow juice to your next watering if you have any. Just enough to get it to stay nice and green until you swap to flower and then you shouldn't need to worry so much as most bloom juices have at least 1% nitrogen in them.

Again though... very nice plant man!

Edit: Those pics of the roots are from before you transplanted right? Those aren't still in those pots are they? They are getting rootbound fast... if you haven't... it's time to size-up your pots.

TheYokel said:

I would tell you that $145 is way too much for any fluorescent fixture...

But the noding on those things are fucking beautiful.

Good job man!

It looks a little hungry. I am always hesitant to say to add anything to a plant in veg... but you may want to add like 5ml of some grow juice to your next watering if you have any. Just enough to get it to stay nice and green until you swap to flower and then you shouldn't need to worry so much as most bloom juices have at least 1% nitrogen in them.

Again though... very nice plant man!

Edit: Those pics of the roots are from before you transplanted right? Those aren't still in those pots are they? They are getting rootbound fast... if you haven't... it's time to size-up your pots.

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thank you for the advice, any ideas where i can find a good price on an 8 bulb t5? and the plants look alot better than those pics the site only let me add 10 at a time ill try to get the other ones added soon but those are before the transplant i have the purple cotton in 1 gallon pots and the dreamwalker and bagseed in about 3 gallon pots.

when i get home im moving and transplanting 2 of the purple cotton and 1 of the dreamwalker plants under the 12 bulb t5 i got and keeping the mainlined plants under the all veg light at a friends house......

either way thanx for the input and ill try to post more often. thank for the compliment the plants actually exploded with growth after the transplant and am very optimistic about this time

so the other half of the pics. i did transplant the plants into there budding pots the 3 and 5 gallon and on the 2 purple cotton plants had the roots looking the same as the pics on this last transplant im thinking i need to transplant alot sooner than i have been.

and finally on the dreamwalker im training i have in a smart pot and the roots seemed to have grown into the fabric itself. when i went to transplant it was very hard to get it out and it seemed link i ripped the roots from the bottom of the bag, is this bad? has anyone had this happen? and should i just put all the smart pot into the new pot?

nice plants...

so i switched 3 of my plants to 12/12 and one of the purple cotton seeds already is showing 2 white hairs on the nodes so at least 1 female hopefully the other two will show the same but im having a bit of a heat issue with these new t5 lights. the 12 bulb was cheap bt i guess you get what you pay for.



either way this is the picks of the plants. the taller one that ive tied down quite a bit is the dreamwalker and the other two are the purple cotton. the one on the far left is the one that has the hairs already.



im going to chop the mainlined plants today and transplant them into 3 gallon pots as well so ill update some pics later of that hopefull

the plants a while back when they just started flowering and the veg tent a while ago ill update soon the veg tent is so crowned now and 2 of the three plants in flower are looking so frosty. ill try to post new pics soon. sorry about all the time between posts lifes crazy sometimes

personally i would have gone from the solo cups to the 6 inch squares as mentioned above or a comparable sized container. from what i can see here your plants are too small for the container that they are in. your opinion is probably one that you will give them more room to grow but in reality the large container is harder to keep at the right moisture levels. you'll usually find you have slower growth because you'll end up watering too much and soaking down the dirt, or too little and the roots will not make it out to the edges because the dirts dry out there. the plant needs a repetitive wet -dry cycle to be getting air to the roots. watering once every two days is pretty much perfect. every one day is ok but it usually means you should transplant bigger, three days is ok at first because as the soil compacts and flushes out and the plant grows, you'll have to start watering more often
another thing that will slow down production is your mainlining. its kinda cool but it slows things down. just saying. i love nug buckets thread too but repeatedly topping and defoliating will make for slower plants. just saying.
i ran ffof for a long ass time (years) and this is what i recommend. close to whats been said already but this is how i grow in it, take it or leave it.
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straight into ffof and 20% pearlite in six inch square containers
only water for the first two weeks and then i start adding cal mag- i will then use calmag for the rest of the grow at just under the recommended dose at every watering.
week 4 i like to add some fertilizer. i start with a quarter dose or adding enough to bring ppm up to around 450 with the calmag already in there.
i will run food from there on in, not every time, around every third time at a lower than full dose in veg, max 60%.
then i flip to flower and i start increasing my ppm to around 1000. about a full dose on a large plant, smaller plants won't need as much. my girls used to get to be four feet tall or more and three or more feet wide. every third watering id feed but id throw in a couple more feedings in between week 2.5 and 4.5 of flower when she's eating the most. this is with proper run off. salts must be properly leached from the soil or you will burn the plants. the dirt will show over 2000 ppm and your plants will start to lock out nutrients because the root zone is saturated. 10% run off and up to 20 or more in mid flower is what i recommend and flush if you see tips burning.
i like saucers under my plants so water is not running all over and i also put the plants on something like a brick or something like that so the run off doesn't reabsorb into the soil when you leach the grow media. check your run off ppm regularly to see whats going on in the plants root zone. its not a dip stick but it will give you a better idea.

they look ok right now. not good, not bad. i like to start a strain au natural for the first run on it. you will get a better idea on which plants are better off to be mainlined, lstd, or left alone. you'll also know what they produce under normal conditions and then you can try to push it from there. the best thing your doing right now is not killing them, and learning. great job so far. keep it up.

Hey there I've gotten a good bit of info from this thread from reading it and was thinking I may as well post some pictures too. I'm also doing my first grow and i'm 11 weeks in right now. 3 weeks into flowering with CFL.

I germinated my 4$ feminized seed in a 3 gallon fabric pot using regular potting soil from Reno Depot (I bought the cheapest soil no fancy stuff). After about 6-7 weeks of growing, I transplanted my Northern Lights female into a 10 gallon fabric pot with about 40% perlite. I water about every 5 days with 7 litres of water (~2 U.S gallons)

Please let me know what you think of my plant! I'm rather excited to get some feedback as I've never grown anything and it seems to be doing well! If I can help in any way please ask me some questions. I do not know very much apart from my experience with this plant and a book I have referred to throughout it's growth, but I may be able to help with simple things. I got the seed from "SPEED" seedbank.

Hope to hear from you soon!



*All pictures were taken with my cellphone.

oh shoot, i didn't see that you had just transplanted them. in that case your doing even better than i thought lol.

Dear Mr. Alienwidow,

you seem to know your stuff pretty well. Do you think it's better to grow a single plant or multiple in a grow space the size of mine? What about OP's?

Thanks a lot,

James Connor

James Connor said:

Dear Mr. Alienwidow,

you seem to know your stuff pretty well. Do you think it's better to grow a single plant or multiple in a grow space the size of mine? What about OP's?

Thanks a lot,

James Connor

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that all depends on what you want out of it and what your circumstances are, also how big the space is and how high you can raise your light with the hood you have. theres no one best way to grow.

your space is what your lights hood or reflector throws as a footprint at the preferred light power for the plant. theres a right bulb distance and a wrong one. the hoods angle makes this height and width in both directions different for every set up.

as i said in the first paragraph its what you want to achieve and how long you have, paired with what growing method you want to use.
a sog method will give you results faster than the method your using, but a scrog method will allow a bigger plant to be grown. production wise the sog method is faster, and more continuous, with a larger room for making mistakes because theres usually more plants cycling in behind the ones you forgot to water.
scrog is better if your worried about plant counts because you can have a huge yield and not many plants. you can squeeze as many gpw out of that bulb that you can in one shot. the downfall is that the power usage over the months of veg and flower add up costing your bottom line.

for me i like to have my lights as high up to the roof as possible for a few big plants at 2.5 feet from the bulb and a 5x7 footprint with the hoods i use. i veg under t5s because they are cheaper to run. then i run 4 or six plants a 1000 w light. thats what i do. everyone does it differently. ps, thats a big grow bag. a little too big lol but it looks good