first experience with 2 in 30 gallon pot

LWD

LWD

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Hi Riu, I thought I'd give it try. I wanted a big yield out of my 400 watt. Now I think that I should of went with 5 gal pots:). They are turning into tall monsters. Week two flowering almost 5 ft in height. I imagine them growing to the ceiling, and its what it looks like they are going to do. I do have a plan if that happens though. Just turn my light vertically and position it to the side of plants, since plants are too tall for top down lighting, then I will just give them side lighting. I'm a newb when it comes to LST and supercrop. I personally distaste bending my plants in anyway. Well just thought I'd share. If anyone has any advice and have grown monsters in limited spaces before, what did you do exactly to let it bud out without them growing into the ceiling? Well thanks.
 
FilthyFletch

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
sounds like you vegged to long. These must be sativas so figure they will finish 4 times as tall as when you went day one 12/12. Topping or lst would have been the way to go so you stopped verticle growth and forced it to bush out and make more bud sites as this tall with just a 400 watt small light your getting no penetration so just top colas and then if anything fluffy popcorn on most of the plant. Should have read up on the basics before doing this route.Im guessing 4 oz dried if it was good genetics. Unless you can add some lighting like a 1000 watter and maybe 2 more 400 watters around the sides.
 
LWD

LWD

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Actually it was only a month veg.. nothing crazy like a 4 month. The plants are 70% indica Blue Blood by Medicann. I don't know where your getting 4 times as tall. From what I read is that they will double. I thought I could keep it short, but after a month is when it really started to take off in growth. I'll be alright, keep u all updated come harvest time peace..
 
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dgp

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It's ok...more roots, more fruits. Search lst or low stress training. Is you have the ceiling height, no worries. And btw, where he is getting 4x from is experience. I have had that happen from Maui wowie and grinspoon. Shit, most of my indicas double.
next time..it is all about the veg for bigger pots. Try lst, topping, fimming, super cropping or main-lining so you can actually use all that root space. If you dont know what those are, then you dont need a 30 gal...stick with 5. Also, use a good root stimulator like endomaxx or rhiztonic. All of my huge pots veg for at least two months but I also have high ceilings.
also...the fact that you are using a 400w for 60 gallons of garden is funny.
 
LWD

LWD

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I'm not using 60 gallons only one 30 gal pot. This was basically an experiment. I've grown hindu plants in 5 gallons that peak height was 4 ft. Here goes a photo with the tape measure, week 2 flower. How much more bigger you think they will get? IMG_20130424_093710.jpgIMG_20130424_093728.jpg thanks riu
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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You should really supercrop that, or LST it... you keep saying you don't know how... well look it up... they're both extremely easy methods. You are going to yield shit off that, because 400 watts do not penetrate well and the lower parts of the plant are basically just going to end up being long stilts that the worthy flowers sit at the top of... you could have just grown 2 footers for a similar yield most likely...
 
LWD

LWD

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I supercropped my 3 tops, said to just bend and make an L, that is what I did. What is going to happen now, should the side branches take over more? IMG_20130424_101116.jpg
 
LWD

LWD

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I seen vids of people doing supercrop all the way up until week 6 flowering. This is my first attempt to supercrop. I honestly don't know how this is going to turn out. I could of let them grow to the ceiling, but I would have no where to put my light. Only the top colas would be flowering and the rest spindly. I'll see how it turns out. Next crop I'm going to do hydro in 5 gal buckets. Maybe I made the yield less by doing this, but the height was the problem, so I'm going to get some nuggage regardless of how much I am not sure.
 
DiscreteMeat

DiscreteMeat

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LWD said:
I seen vids of people doing supercrop all the way up until week 6 flowering. This is my first attempt to supercrop. I honestly don't know how this is going to turn out. I could of let them grow to the ceiling, but I would have no where to put my light. Only the top colas would be flowering and the rest spindly. I'll see how it turns out. Next crop I'm going to do hydro in 5 gal buckets. Maybe I made the yield less by doing this, but the height was the problem, so I'm going to get some nuggage regardless of how much I am not sure.
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Master one technique before moving on to the next. Your problems had nothing to do with soil vs. hydro. They had everything to do with your lack of lighting and lack of proper structuring technique employed during the vegetative phase. Just because you saw someone essentially stress the plant during week 6 of flower doesn't mean it's a good practice.

In a 30 gallon pot, instead of growing one plant, you can grow 3-5 plants. Point is, your pots aren't the problem. You have to tie those babies down early, as they'll begin to structure themselves into really short and bushy plants before getting tall.
 
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growaddict234

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U shouldn't have done that to that plant it just slow it down and lessen yeild would have just hung some more light Down low left the one light high the purpose of supercroping is to stop top from shading low branches
heres some of my pics
 
BeastGrow

BeastGrow

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take the time to learn all the following grow techniques: LST, Supercrop, Cloning, Scrog, Crimping/stem crushing... You can use the techniques in combination too. LST is bending the plant over. LST allows more light to come in contact with the plant, specifically the side of the plant which was previously shaded by the top of the plant. Each place a fan leaf meets a branch or trunk is a potential spot for a new branch and thus a new bud to grow. get a 5 or so foot length of rope. about 3/4 up the plant put the rope in a 'U' shape around the trunk. Pull both ends of the rope down slowly until the plant has a small amount of tension and then secure both ends of the rope to the grow container (duct tape will work). Bend the plant over as far as you think you can get away with without it snapping in half.

Like others have said work on 1 technique at a time. I would recommend starting with LST
 
cdd10

cdd10

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BeastGrow said:
take the time to learn all the following grow techniques: LST, Supercrop, Cloning, Scrog, Crimping/stem crushing... You can use the techniques in combination too. LST is bending the plant over. LST allows more light to come in contact with the plant, specifically the side of the plant which was previously shaded by the top of the plant. Each place a fan leaf meets a branch or trunk is a potential spot for a new branch and thus a new bud to grow. get a 5 or so foot length of rope. about 3/4 up the plant put the rope in a 'U' shape around the trunk. Pull both ends of the rope down slowly until the plant has a small amount of tension and then secure both ends of the rope to the grow container (duct tape will work). Bend the plant over as far as you think you can get away with without it snapping in half.

Like others have said work on 1 technique at a time. I would recommend starting with LST
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I've never done LST but from that explanation of it, it doesn't seem too awful hard.
 
crispypb840

crispypb840

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SAM_0674.jpgHere is what you want to look like before switching 12/12. It's better to start training when they are still young and bendy( week 2) You are too late IMA. If your really worried about height then you can Cut the top of a few nodes down. This will make them stop growing tall and start bushing out. Basically hedging. And I topped this one before training to increase branching.
LWD said:
I supercropped my 3 tops, said to just bend and make an L, that is what I did. What is going to happen now, should the side branches take over more? View attachment 2629242
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HamSaze330

HamSaze330

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crispypb840 said:
View attachment 2926021Here is what you want to look like before switching 12/12. It's better to start training when they are still young and bendy( week 2) You are too late IMA. If your really worried about height then you can Cut the top of a few nodes down. This will make them stop growing tall and start bushing out. Basically hedging. And I topped this one before training to increase branching.
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That is some crazy stem you got going on there man. + rep for that visual
 
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