Ferris Wheel Grow[First hydroponic grow] TIPS?!

Im getting the machine tomorrow and the clones are coming,
1- how should i start to feed these?
2- how long should i veg in the machine and how long light on off
3- do i use just rockwool slabs?

if anyone can reply ill start posting pictuures
 

GrowTech

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Man if you don't have the answers to these questions, you might have a hard time... Seems like you're jumping into the deep end with no floaters :(
 

merahoon

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Yeah I agree. Before dropping 2 grand on this machine I would do a little research. Otherwise, you'll be kicking yourself in the head once your grow turns into crap. However, I may have a few answers to your questions in the meantime.

1. I would assume you would have a nutrient mixture in the reservoir the cubes dip into every 45 - 60 min.
2. This depends on the size of your clones and what strain your using. I would only go with an indica dominant strain or a 100% indica due to sativas stretching. Your not provided with much space, so if you plant stretches too much, you'll end up burning your buds. I wouldn't veg over a week though.
3. Yes you use rockwool cubes.

Just look up roto grows or rotary grows and learn from others mistakes. You don't want to hop into something when you don't know much about it.
 

OregonMeds

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Wow where to begin. It's like I want to tear into you because you bought a rotary growing machine with no idea what you are doing but on the other hand I would have done the same thing. Such a conundrum...

You need to get the directions for that specific machine and read them front to back BEFORE trying to start 100 clones to go in it. Every machine is different. Many require clones in little 1" plugs that only when loaded in the machine get stuck in full sized cubes.

Nobody can answer your question only you know the machine you bought and only you can find out what it requires.

Do you know anything about growing in general? I think you are in WAY WAY WAY over your head. Why do you need the machine in the first place if you only bought one of them? You must not be trying to get rich quick. I think you just made one of the largest mistakes in your life.

Everybody make a flushing sound in unison because that's what you just did with your money, or your future if you are ever busted with a machine full of plants.
 

GrowTech

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Well he's going to have to work with what he has if he has the little machine... I am interested in seeing how he has things set up... Hopefully we can help him get this machine set up right and perhaps produce some good bud from it
 

merahoon

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Wow where to begin. It's like I want to tear into you because you bought a rotary growing machine with no idea what you are doing but on the other hand I would have done the same thing. Such a conundrum...

You need to get the directions for that specific machine and read them front to back BEFORE trying to start 100 clones to go in it. Every machine is different. Many require clones in little 1" plugs that only when loaded in the machine get stuck in full sized cubes.

Nobody can answer your question only you know the machine you bought and only you can find out what it requires.

Do you know anything about growing in general? I think you are in WAY WAY WAY over your head. Why do you need the machine in the first place if you only bought one of them? You must not be trying to get rich quick. I think you just made one of the largest mistakes in your life.

Everybody make a flushing sound in unison because that's what you just did with your money, or your future if you are ever busted with a machine full of plants.
No need to tear someone down when they've already spent 2 grand on a piece of equipment like this. Yeah, maybe not the best idea, but you have it now so you gotta make the best of it. However, I do agree you need to learn A LOT before you just get into this.

I would love to see how this goes though. Just ignore the haters because there are a lot of there when it comes to rotary growing. Good luck with your research and I hope this turns out to be something great!

What strain are you working with?
 

OregonMeds

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I started my rant with "but I would have done the same thing"... I thought that everything I said after that wouldn't be taken too personally as much of any real attack at all.

I did a lot of ranting last night, I was just in a horrible mood but I did give him good advice none the less.

I'm not a rotary growing hater at all in fact I was going to build one myself from scratch until I did a whole lot more research on it to start the actual build and then realized how limiting it would be. That and how costly it would be legal wise if ever caught growing with it because every plant will be counted as a 2lb monster like they do to everyone else. No credit will be given for the fact that you couldn't grow a plant anywhere near that large in the machine anyway, nor any understanding that all it does is save electricity and grow more product on less light.

But anyway, if the op decides to use it I'll be first in line to help and won't be giving any more grief about it.

I'm probably one of the most informed people here on the subject since I did read absolutely everything I could get my hands on about them. I bet I even know what model he bought, I'm thinking the b-pod one. I even know what it's weaknesses are (The wheel is four parts and it can deform just from uneven weight distribution from loading and unloading unevenly or moving it or leaning on it), when it deforms it can no longer evenly water all the cubes and some cubes will run dry and areas of the wheel will become unusable.

I know all these things because I was working out exactly how not to get the same weaknesses in my own.

And any questions fire away, but first you have to start with reading the manual front to back. I do have a pet peeve against those that don't RTFM and the idea of starting cubes without knowing what you need or reading the manual first did sort of set me off a little, my fault, sorry.

You spent nearly two grand probably maybe more and each run will cost a couple hundred dollars in just rockwool alone. $500 or so ea run counting nutes and everything else. You really really need to know what you're doing before jumping in with one of these of you stand to loose a lot of time and money with it. There simply is no harder way to grow. There is really no margin for error at all.

Even the strain must be right for this. You can't start from seed, you need a short indica, only clones work, and they all must be the same strain. Not only that but you need to make all your clones as identical in size as is humanly possible and weed out any too big or too small. And you can't have too much veg time or they'll instantly grow too tall to fit before flowering is done, the amount of veg time and final finishing height is crutial. Most often you can't even fill the machine, you have to do every other cube space so there is room.

But the poor guy doesn't even sound like he knows the basics of growing like 12/12 for flowering... Just a hunch, maybe I'm wrong.

I do wish you the best and as long as you are trying to learn and do in fact RTFM before flooding me with too many questions I'm here for you man, pm me if you need any help in case I miss something if it turns out nobody else is able to answer. You'll find I think three people that have been down this road and are even half way active here, one who is an even bigger dick than I can be.
 

Deyor

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I would love to have a wheel or two one day. But I agree with the previous posters, it doesn't seem like the best starters project.
 

OregonMeds

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Is this the machine? (b-pod)



The manuals are online for it somewhere so you can read before it arrives, but I seem to have lost the link. Ask whoever you bought it from where you can download the manuals.
 

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yeahhh ohhh well , we will all see together now if i can pull this off or not lol, fak i dont care what can you do now, i also think i got a little in over my head, but thats jsut gonna motivate me that much more, i will keep detailed pictures and all that, im going to set it up in about a week or so, but untill then I have no questions, the guy i bought it off, i met him today we ended up chillin talkin for like a hour and then burned one, n talked for another hour, he told me all the mistakes he made on his first run, and how crucial co2 is with these if you wanna pull off alot of bud, also that indica strains are the best, kush blows on the machine, do not over water, only dip have the rockwool in the dip tray, and it is a not well known brand, there was a sticker , ill take a look tommorow, 1 crop will pay the machine off, so Im not stressin about the 2 grand. and i do have a friend helpin out, he is fairly experienced

Well all watch them grow together, and if it works out, we then no these machines are the beeeeeeest, if a amature grower can just buy one and get 4 ps from 2 lights, ive accomplished something!!
dude i bought it from said he got 6 and half of nebula off it. didnt bring me a nug though! :( said he thought about it.!!
and iono were majority of the ppl are on this site, but im from canada! ehh
 

merahoon

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Just for future reference, ask for proof. It's easy to make claims when your trying to sell someone on something. I do know nebula is supposed to be one of the best strains for this system but 6lbs sounds like a bold claim IMO. I'm not saying its not possible, but I haven't seen someone pull that off yet on one of these. Either way, if you only harvest one, you still paid off the machine.

Oregon, I didn't mean to call you out, I just felt bad this guy bought a 2 grand machine and were telling him how much money he wasted. I just know how it feels to spend a chunk of money on something and have it be worthless. I'm sure we all have, I just didn't want to shove it in his face. The second post just laid it out in reality though. I remember seeing you around in maximus's threads and what not back when I was doing research on these.
 
yeeeeeow, I got my place today! get the keys in afew days, setup is gonna start this weeek!, gonna run the machine and another room, in the other room i was thinking, 2 600s and 100 plants or u guys think 50 pants and 1 1k, what do u think ill get more product from ?
 

MutaS

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If your gonna do it you might as well do it big, 2 600's and 100, watch out though those can be a bit tricky to use, Also make sure that the nutes are not dripping on the plants below as it will damage them.
good luck and good growing 8)
 

merahoon

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yeeeeeow, I got my place today! get the keys in afew days, setup is gonna start this weeek!, gonna run the machine and another room, in the other room i was thinking, 2 600s and 100 plants or u guys think 50 pants and 1 1k, what do u think ill get more product from ?
It all depends on what style of growing you plan on using. If you plan on fitting 100 plants under 2 600's, your going to have to do SOG. How much experience do you have with growing?
 
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