Feminized Seeds Hermie Test - 14 strains, which are high risk; frequency; DM Reverse;

Mindmelted

Mindmelted

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Hobbes said:
Hey Mindmelted!

"Snow White From Nirvana, White Berry from Paradise, Train Wreck from GreenHouse"

I don't know much about Nirvana seeds, but I've read consistently good reports on White Berry and Paradise, and I've read around the forum that Greenhouse is advertising zero hermies. Good to hear you've gone hermie free. I've got a Trainwreck fem seed waiting to germ, it'll be great if it's sexually stable.

What was the high like for your Greenhouse Trainwreck? Did it hit fast or creep? Potent? Both head and body? How trippy? Anything else you can think of ;)

thanks!

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bongsmilie
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Hobbes,
The Train Wreck was a Good all around high. Solid body and Head high :eyesmoke:
 
Cinderella99

Cinderella99

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Hobbes, thank you for the excellent and on point thread. And I say on point because it seems like this may be the wave of the future.

My Hermie to Fem seed ratio theory is this: It is largely a riddle of Statistics and Probabilities.

Yes, there are certain strains that are feminized that have "weaker", more hermie prone tendencies and this IS a genetic factor...

But also, the devil is in the details in that even sts is a stressor of sorts....When you have a large seed manufacturing co. that stresses whole-scale, the larger proportion of those fem seeds will be from those male flowers that were stressed earlier--because they were weaker to the herm tendency-- and to a greater extent than those with more feminine solid tendencies...So, it would stand to reason that a larger proportion of those fem seeds will be from more easily stressed, earlier male pollen parents.

If you combine this with the concept that selfing exponentially doubles any weak genes, Voila...

I am not a genetics person by training, but if you take 1) breed genetics 2) early flower weakness probabilities and 3) magnification of the previous by exponential combination...That stands to reason for me. Peace.
 
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syze

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ONEeyedWILLY444 said:
kremnon said:
the reason ur gettin bannanas on ur girls is not because theur hermie its a light leak or something. u cant turn a plant hermie it is or it isn't. u can light poison a plant to produce bananas but that does'nt make it a hermie[/quote

i have grown 10 crops in my grow room too date only three of which had a couple of hermies in. all where grown in the same way with same light and nutes and everything.
p.h is kept at 6.5
humidity between 40 and 55
temps 70 in day 50 at night
now if all my plants had suffered then i would agree but only around 10% were affected so i dont believe light leak is my problem i NEVER disturb a sleeping plant.
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isnt that a HUGE temperature drop at nights? damn 10 degrees should be the limit, it costs you weight!
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Hobbes

Hobbes

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"The Train Wreck was a Good all around high. Solid body and Head high :eyesmoke:"

Thanks Mindmelted. :)

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"does DNA Genetics have good fem seeds"

I don't know much about DNA, anyone else?

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"the larger proportion of those fem seeds will be from those male flowers that were stressed earlier--because they were weaker to the herm tendency-- and to a greater extent than those with more feminine solid tendencies...So, it would stand to reason that a larger proportion of those fem seeds will be from more easily stressed, earlier male pollen parents."

Very interesting, I've never thought of early flower weakness. Nor the probability of S1 children hermieing because of that. Sounds like solid reasoning, does anyone else have knowledge of early flower weakness?

A way around this for home S1 breeders would be to take a solid mother and let a clone flower until late flower bananas pop.

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bongsmilie
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

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Week 9

Solid as ever, not a sign of a banana to come. A little Reverse during the first 2 weeks does amazing things, the Red Diesel feminized is as beautiful as the Bubblegum clone next to it, with more solid denser buds.

The Taiga fem is starting to fill out, no sign of hermieing. It has an amazingly tall skinny cola.

I'm going to post some pics of my garden this week, I'll post a pic of both plants on this thread.

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bongsmilie
 
LAX Skunky BwS

LAX Skunky BwS

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well i got 3 Kushberry Fem seeds (DNA Genetics) going right right now .. almost 3 weeks old and one Blue Hash Fem seed (Dinafem) ... i hope i dont get any Hermies
 
Ellis D. Williams

Ellis D. Williams

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I grew out 3 fem. Chocolope (DNA) seeds and had no problems with herms. Only one of the 3 cloned with any success but no male flowers on any of the mothers or clones. I also grew 2 G13 Haze fem. from Barney's Farm and had no herms from either of those, they both cloned excellently too.
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

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I wouldn't worry too much LAX, get some Reverse and Penatrator to have on hand just in case. My Barney's Farm Red Diesel hermied like a banana tree while a Dutch Pasions Taiga (ruderelus cross) looks like it has rock solid stability. Strain, breeder and grower.

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bongsmilie
 
LAX Skunky BwS

LAX Skunky BwS

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Ellis D. Williams said:
I grew out 3 fem. Chocolope (DNA) seeds and had no problems with herms. Only one of the 3 cloned with any success but no male flowers on any of the mothers or clones. I also grew 2 G13 Haze fem. from Barney's Farm and had no herms from either of those, they both cloned excellently too.
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one of the reasons why i went with DNA.. heard some good things.. bout them .. anyways.. the Kushberry is looking awsome .. cant wait till i start to flower
 
LAX Skunky BwS

LAX Skunky BwS

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Hobbes said:
I wouldn't worry too much LAX, get some Reverse and Penatrator to have on hand just in case. My Barney's Farm Red Diesel hermied like a banana tree while a Dutch Pasions Taiga (ruderelus cross) looks like it has rock solid stability. Strain, breeder and grower.

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bongsmilie
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u say u can get some of that at a Hydro store? .. gonna have to go check it out... +Rep
 
mared juwan

mared juwan

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So Hobbes, it sounds like the DM Reverse works awesome. Would you recommend any preemptive strikes on a strain you are growing for the first time? Or would you wait until you know it has a herm history?

My Green House girls still looking great BTW....
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

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"Would you recommend any preemptive strikes on a strain you are growing for the first time? Or would you wait until you know it has a herm history?"

Definitely wait, it may not hermie and you'd be wasting your time and money. And if it's not broke don't fix it, I don't know if Reverse would help or hurt a stable plant but it's definitely not needed.

That being said: as soon as you see the first banana take the plant away from the hot light; let it cool, soak with Reverse and Penetrator and let dry slowly out of the light so the Reverse absorbs rather than dries on the leaf; Soak once per week - 3 times - and see if the bananas stop, they may or may not depending on how unstable the strain is.

I hope your Greenhouse plants all come up with no hermies, it'd be great to know that some day we could get all strains in a stable S1. Plus I have around 5 Greenhouse fem strains waiting to germ.

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bongsmilie
 
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Cheech Wizard

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Hey Everybody,
Speaking of DNA, my fem Sharksbreath is at 9 weeks today and looks amazing. Gonna pull it in a day or two.. Also, my Barneys farm fem Nightshades are looking great too. Two different phenos but each one is looking great. Only fem seeds I have had any issues with are from Ducth Passion
 
laserbrn

laserbrn

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Ahhh...don't say that, I'm working with 10 Dutch Passion White Widows right now. I really don't want to start dealing with bananas. I should've ordered regular seeds.
 
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Cheech Wizard

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Im sure you'll be ok. I just had problems with a skywalker and a brainstorm... both got the bananna things..... executed them... but the others were all great. The Skywalker was looking especially great, Im sorry that I had to kill it.
 
laserbrn

laserbrn

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Cheech Wizard said:
Im sure you'll be ok. I just had problems with a skywalker and a brainstorm... both got the bananna things..... executed them... but the others were all great. The Skywalker was looking especially great, Im sorry that I had to kill it.
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Well fortunately I'm currently vegging 16 plants and only really have a 4x4 space. I'm going to have to start culling at some point so I guess the nanners will be the deciders.
 
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