ol'StaggerLee23
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I believe he said HighRise. Available at rcmc. Haven't heard of them being anywhere else
Female Seeds next gen c99 - Sexbud
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nomofatum
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RCMC has the Fem version of the Photo Fire99 available.Thanks @nomofatum!
I'm well above the arctic circle at 69' north so....Any particular problems running the Fire99 indoors?
Maybe I'll grab some of the brosgrimm F4 regular C99 instead when they re-stock. My headshop currently don't carry the Fire99 photo.
nomofatum
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Most of the Fire99's will have the same high and flavor as C99. They just seem stronger on both flavor and potency. An ok Fire99 vs a good C99 would be hard to tell apart.
RCMC is the only place I know of to buy High Rise seeds. Most are out of stock right now, but they were expecting restocking earlier this month, so hopefully any day.
My order of favorite to least favorite:
1. Fire 99
2. Fire 99 Auto
3. HR/FMS C99
4. Sexbud
HighRise bred them to retain all the original phenotypes of Brothers Grimm C99. FMS bred them to only keep 2-3 phenos. You should see more variation in the HR beans.
DoctorFrost
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Thank you for the info, it is just what I was wondering. In the chuckers paradise thread someone crossed a C99 with a Blue Dream and the C99 dominated the cross. It makes me think that since it is almost IBL status by now that it will do this with any other hybrid that isn't an IBL as well. So that is more then likely why the C99 dominates in Fire99... and I am glad of that. I really think I will have to try some since I love the C99 so much.
And I figured that is what the deal was with phenotypes. I really only had 1, maybe 2 phenos but both were so very similar with the FMS version. But they were great phenos for sure, and I am not sure if there are any better out there or not. I would like to try HighRises C99 to see how it compares to the FMS version since there are different/more phenos to be had. I just wonder if those phenos are any better then the typical one you find from FMS with the razor thin leaves and grapefruit/pineapple smells. So now I want to try both their C99 and Fire99, and it has me more excited to make my own C99 crosses since it seems the C99 is dominating everything it touches.
And I figured that is what the deal was with phenotypes. I really only had 1, maybe 2 phenos but both were so very similar with the FMS version. But they were great phenos for sure, and I am not sure if there are any better out there or not. I would like to try HighRises C99 to see how it compares to the FMS version since there are different/more phenos to be had. I just wonder if those phenos are any better then the typical one you find from FMS with the razor thin leaves and grapefruit/pineapple smells. So now I want to try both their C99 and Fire99, and it has me more excited to make my own C99 crosses since it seems the C99 is dominating everything it touches.
nomofatum
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Orange, tangerine, grapefruit, mango, pineapple, and skunky are the main pheno groups I would describe, but most plants are a mix of 2 or more of them. I like all of them, but the grapefruit is probably my least favorite. It's a fun pheno hunt when they all turn out good-great.
DoctorFrost
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Which ones had the thinnest razor like leaves for you nomofatum? I want to say the ones I had were a mix of grapefruit/pineapple from FMS and they had the razor thin leaves. Only grew 3 of them but they were all almost identical.. and I loved them. The ones I grew had no hints of skunk or weed smell whatsoever. They literally just smelled of fruit, you could probably grow them without the need of any filters at all. That's crazy to hear the grapefruit is your least favorite, and it seems like the main pheno I found from FMS... would love to go through some of these other ones then to see what is the best. What was your favorite phenotype(s)?
nomofatum
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Thinnest leaves are on grapefruit. Best pheno, not sure: Tangerine (tastes just like Tangie, lighter color), Skunky Citrus, Mango Pineapple are probably all tied. Have to wait and see what's my favorite from the current batch once cured.
Skunky seems to be the big yielding pheno, FYI. The skunky ones grew faster and produced more bud.
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DoctorFrost
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Thanks for the info once again, C99 is one of my all time favorites that I have grown so far so this really helps me out. Now I need to find a couple more places to grab some C99 to try out the different phenos since it sounds like I can find something even nicer then the FMS Phenos I had. I believe I have heard that the FMS also has the Pineapple pheno, but none of mine were straight pineapple.. so maybe in a 10 pack I could find her. Checked out HighRise seeds and it looks like the Fire99 comes in Fems, and the C99 are regs but aren't in stock. I will have to keep an eye on them, or try to find some other places that have the C99.. I belive Peak Seeds does but not sure how their phenos compare.
I think I'd prefer to have one of the Mango or Pineapple phenos if they are one of the best.. I prefer the fruity flavors with the C99 since it is what I am used to. The yields of the Skunky phenos sound nice though so maybe a pheno of each. I hate to keep bugging you about these but I have to ask, did the high produced from each pheno vary that much? I am looking for the most potent head banging pheno that I can find. If they are slightly different which ones were more of the uppity sativa high I enjoy? I wish that there was a description of all the phenos that can be found with this strain since it is so popular with everyone.
I think I'd prefer to have one of the Mango or Pineapple phenos if they are one of the best.. I prefer the fruity flavors with the C99 since it is what I am used to. The yields of the Skunky phenos sound nice though so maybe a pheno of each. I hate to keep bugging you about these but I have to ask, did the high produced from each pheno vary that much? I am looking for the most potent head banging pheno that I can find. If they are slightly different which ones were more of the uppity sativa high I enjoy? I wish that there was a description of all the phenos that can be found with this strain since it is so popular with everyone.
nomofatum
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They are pretty similar, and to be honest I haven't smoked just one variety/pheno for a whole sitting in a while, so harder to tell where the high is from...
Tangie is another one you should try if you haven't, it's exactly what you are looking for from the one I ran.
African Buzz is also great for the energy effect, if you don't get paranoid and twitchy, but takes forever to finish.
Tangie is another one you should try if you haven't, it's exactly what you are looking for from the one I ran.
African Buzz is also great for the energy effect, if you don't get paranoid and twitchy, but takes forever to finish.
After reading all 12 pages and seeing the pics and what peeps have said about the FMS and other C99 hash outs I think all of you really need to get closer to the source. The plants pics that have been shared do not do the real deal justice. Buy the real deal C99 made by Brothers Grimm to see what C99 is truly like. BG has started back up and is selling beans again through a couple of places. But damn BG still thinks their shit don't stink and charge $150us for 10 beans. Just like back in '99-'02. Yes they are very expensive. I spent a shit ton of $$$ on BG strains back in the day. The P.94 C99 version was best. The P.97 version did very well with just a little variation. Hard to tell a diff in the highs but the P.94 version grew out bigger. I still have 9 diff packs of original BG strains gotten directly from Sly. To me any and all femmed, autoed, or otherwise diluted genetics stray away from the true goodness of the originals. Now BGs C99 version is different than the original releases. Soul stated that the Princess (Org. mom) crossed by the P.88 version (equals the P.94-3rd bx) was the best and most stable. I know this to be true first hand. His now re-released C99 is a P.75 father once again crossed into the org. Princess mom. Equal to a P.88 version but claims the new papa looks like a male version of Genius. (Princess sister plant)
Since I still have C99 going I would like to try out the reissued version for comparison purposes.
Also BG released a strain called Sugar Blossoms. A Genius by Slys special White Widow dad. SB for short so this thread using SB sometimes confuses me. BG SB was an awesome strain. BIG, flavorful and a great buzz. Thats one I wish they would bring back. It was very under rated back in the day.
http://www.brothersgrimmseeds.com/?age-verified=30013e6ed9
Since I still have C99 going I would like to try out the reissued version for comparison purposes.
Also BG released a strain called Sugar Blossoms. A Genius by Slys special White Widow dad. SB for short so this thread using SB sometimes confuses me. BG SB was an awesome strain. BIG, flavorful and a great buzz. Thats one I wish they would bring back. It was very under rated back in the day.
http://www.brothersgrimmseeds.com/?age-verified=30013e6ed9
DoctorFrost
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Thanks for the info, it would be really nice to know for sure. I would prefer it if he made the C99 the same as it has always been the P88 x Princess = P94 or Cinderalla 99. I know it would be slightly different because of the dad used but if he still truly has the Princess cut and puts some time into them I am sure he can get something similar. But if he uses P75 dad instead of an P88 dad then I could see it being different for sure... or if he uses a C99 dad P94 generation to cross to Princess then I can see it also being different. Best to stick with the original if you ask me, I really enjoy it.
Mr. Ask, I did not know that Bros Grimm crossed C99 into princess again for a P97 version. Is that what you are saying? And if so how was it compared to the C99/P94 we love so much today?
If it wasn't for the $150 price point I would have already grabbed a few packs. But he can keep them at that price until I see others grow them out with honest reviews. And at that point I may grab a pack or two.. but won't go crazy buying 5-10 packs like I would if they were a reasonable price. Breeders just don't understand if they had cheaper prices they would actually make more money by selling more seeds. Anything over $100 just turns me away...
Mr. Ask, I did not know that Bros Grimm crossed C99 into princess again for a P97 version. Is that what you are saying? And if so how was it compared to the C99/P94 we love so much today?
If it wasn't for the $150 price point I would have already grabbed a few packs. But he can keep them at that price until I see others grow them out with honest reviews. And at that point I may grab a pack or two.. but won't go crazy buying 5-10 packs like I would if they were a reasonable price. Breeders just don't understand if they had cheaper prices they would actually make more money by selling more seeds. Anything over $100 just turns me away...
nomofatum
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They are redo's just like any other seed company would attempt to do. I wouldn't expect them to be as good or better than either the FMS or HighRise version if they were remade over a year or two.
Unfortunately they don't have mom and dad and nothing will ever be the same without them.
They do have the original Princess mom as well the Genius. Of course clones of the originals anyway. Those were the two he kept going so it has been said. It was the P.88 male used to make the P.94 version that is gone. I really don't see how his selection of a new dad would be all that bad because that is how he did his cubing process anyway. Having Princess allows him to just start again. Sure the new dad may introduce new things but he is still Princess genetics. Mr. Soul said the new version does produce some purple phenos. If the buzz and taste are there it won't hurt the bag appeal none by having some purple in it. Could be the Colorado air! Cooler, fresher.
Nomo at least the genes offered are closer than all other variations available from other seed makers.
Nomo at least the genes offered are closer than all other variations available from other seed makers.
Doc. I had a very hard time choosing between the two. Both versions were rock steady. Just a small bit of size variation in the P.97. I grew both versions out. I selected and kept an earlier P.94 over the 97. But a little later I was gifted a clone from Sly through a mutual friend. He gave it to our little group of buddies actually. I grew that clone along side my p94 and it was just a wee bit better. Probably because of it's age. I believe it could have came from Soul himself cuz Sly had a real Princess cut too. I was lucky back then. We were all pretty green but had great connects. I did of course make the gift a momma before cloning and flowering. With all strains I grew and tried I always go at least 3 full cycles before selecting and culling when starting from beans. That way the seed moms are more mature and the clones flower easier and quicker. Also shows what mature plants can produce over new starts. I always keep moms alive for as long as possible before switching to a clone of her to make a new mama. I of course tossed some allergy powder and made f2s of the Sly clone and P.97m. Still have those and a pak of org P.97. Also powdered SB, GG, WR and IP. All BG strains I had going. The P.97 by SB made a killer cross. With all of the BG strains I tried I had to take time to select cuz they were all so close. Main issues were size, smell and high. It took time to see the stand outs over their siblings. Cuz they all stood out!
redzi
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Somone needs to tell RCMC to pull their heads out of their asses by placing an order at Sannies. $25 for shipping AND list an alternate in case what you really wanted is out of stock. You can at least have the decency of having a running count of how many packs are left or some way of telling when it is getting low like they do at Hemp Depot.
nomofatum
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Email him. I believe RCMC is a one man operation selling for a few smaller breeders.
I'm a bit irritated at RCMC as I've been waiting for a restock for months now and can't get any actual update out of them.
Another thing I should mention about BG or Souls method of breeding. He used what he called the "milkshake" method. He would mix multiple male pollen's of the strain together and then hit the mom. So it was not 'one' select dad but many back in the day. He said that would give the most genetic diversity in the strain. But for some reason even with that method the seedlings came out quite uniform. Now I believe he uses just one male. He mentioned that he had learned more on male selection over the years. He stated he chose a selected male that looked a lot like a female Genius to make the new C99. That supposedly had come from P.75 beans he kept and started to reissue the C.99 So once again its like a P.88 version which was the first version of C99 because that is the version he originally named Cinderella 99 in 1998 or 1999. Two more C99 version were released after that then they went away. The P.88, P.94,and finally the P.97 versions were all called C99. Who knows he may take a male from this new version and bx it again which will once again be a P.94 version. All of this proves that if you make a great strain you must keep the mom and dad for the beans and released strain to be consistently the same. Not very many breeders will spend the time. money and effort to keep the dads around and the main reason so many good strains from beans are lost.
Jessejester
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So what is the smoke report on this strain? Does it live up to its name or is it BS? Is the arousal real?
Phatlewtz
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this and moscas are the only ones I've gotten lucky with and they are comparable to the real deal....this brand actually finished fast and yielded a good racy high...the mosca to me seemed more couchy....both pretty good, but I will have to give credit to female seeds here as having the best representation 