Fem seeds from female buds?
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kirbymania
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you mean a hermie? cause thats the only way that can happen, and you dont get fem seeds you get hermie seeds . i wont even argue this because i know from first hand experiance.
DB&ST
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then male seeds come from male buds? \:Many people dont realise that getting a seeds from a female bud WILL produce a female plant! i have tried this theory many time and always ended up with all females. So save those seeds bros!!!
go back and read a little..
cowboylogic
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And we have our Darwin award winner for 2010........Thats quote is going to end up in alot of sigs....Many people dont realise that getting a seeds from a female bud WILL produce a female plant! i have tried this theory many time and always ended up with all females. So save those seeds bros!!!
DB&ST
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you got to give it to him for having a hell of a luck for getting only females from his seeds..
also that depends on how much he grew to establish his conclusion..
Captain Jaz
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*facepalm*Many people dont realise that getting a seeds from a female bud WILL produce a female plant! i have tried this theory many time and always ended up with all females. So save those seeds bros!!!
You don't get seeds from male plants!!!!
DSB65
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you may need to rethink your statement...many people dont realise that getting a seeds from a female bud will produce a female plant! I have tried this theory many time and always ended up with all females. So save those seeds bros!!!
kirbymania
Member
i wonder if he ate the" bannanas".
what he is saying is true. a natural female that produces female pollen to ensure the survival of its species(self-pollination) will produce feminized seeds. some say they are more prone to hermieing when stressed though. even a stress induced hermie female will produce female seeds, just more prone to being hermie.
the jist of this is, if a NATURAL female that has went into sex change due to enivronmental factors, lighting interuption, etc.(for a viable reason) produces seed, they are all 100% female. they do not sprout male. they are however more prone to end up as hermies.
if the plant has went hermie for no explainable reasons, the seeds produced by it will be 95% hermie rate.
a way of producing feminised seeds called Roderization or something like that. where breeders have a batch, and they stress induce hermieing. the females that dont hermie during this process are called the true females. they are left in flower around 2weeks longer, and they hermie and self pollinate, or the pollen is used on another natural female, creating very stable feminized seed. there is also the Colladial Silver method.
if you produce seed from a plant that hermies during the stress, they will still be feminized, just not as stable, and they can possibly have a high hermie rate. ive seen good nugs grown from hermie seeds though, so it all depends on the strain you are working with and how stable it is.
EDIT: I am currently doing a experiment for next summer. i got a batch of 3 females which i plan on hermieing. collecting the seeds, labelling and growing them in a specific area as a test to see if they can grow decent bud.
the jist of this is, if a NATURAL female that has went into sex change due to enivronmental factors, lighting interuption, etc.(for a viable reason) produces seed, they are all 100% female. they do not sprout male. they are however more prone to end up as hermies.
if the plant has went hermie for no explainable reasons, the seeds produced by it will be 95% hermie rate.
a way of producing feminised seeds called Roderization or something like that. where breeders have a batch, and they stress induce hermieing. the females that dont hermie during this process are called the true females. they are left in flower around 2weeks longer, and they hermie and self pollinate, or the pollen is used on another natural female, creating very stable feminized seed. there is also the Colladial Silver method.
if you produce seed from a plant that hermies during the stress, they will still be feminized, just not as stable, and they can possibly have a high hermie rate. ive seen good nugs grown from hermie seeds though, so it all depends on the strain you are working with and how stable it is.
EDIT: I am currently doing a experiment for next summer. i got a batch of 3 females which i plan on hermieing. collecting the seeds, labelling and growing them in a specific area as a test to see if they can grow decent bud.
Lord Dangly Bits
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HOLY SHIT!!!!! I leave this Forum for a few years, and what do you know. The first thread I read is this one. Who the hell let this guy out of the loony bin? Anyone that believes what this guy is saying. I have a Plant to sell you that will not only produce the best buds you have ever seen, but will roll itself into blunts if you just ask it nicely.Many people dont realise that getting a seeds from a female bud WILL produce a female plant! i have tried this theory many time and always ended up with all females. So save those seeds bros!!!
u ppl must not know alot about hermie. if a natural female hermies, it produces female pollen. when pollenating female buds with female pollen you ensure the female gene. ive got random seeds off plants, 1-3 per plant. and they all end up female next year. females self pollinate all the time, its the marijuanas survival instinct, and the seeds should be expected to be female. maybe with a slightly higher chance of hermieing. but i havent had bad experiences.
cowboylogic
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I know nothing I see nothing...Welcome back to the jungle Lord Dangy. There are days its simply mind boggling......
Lord Dangly Bits
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Hmm. To me he did not say he got the seeds from a Hermie plant, he said a Female Bud. All seeds come from a female bud. But lets say he did say a Hermie. We should not be allowing these seeds into the gene pool anyway. They are unstable. Breeders work hard to make the feminized seeds stable, and even then they are still more likely to hermie then normal seeds.
I once had a crop that out of 12-14 ounces, one single seed was found. Now lets say this seed was from a Hermied plant, and a buddy of mine germed this seed to breed with another of his plants for seeds. Not realizeing what the true genetics were. This little chain of events could go on and on.
I studied up on breeding. I only got far enough to understand that I did not want to try and understand the workings of breeding a nice sweet stinky strain, that was stable and healthy. To me it was just to much dam work when I can just buy 10 regular seeds of a good strain. If I get one female, I am off and rolling.
If someone were to give me free feminized seeds from a top of the line seed bank, I would not even use them. I have bought them before. But that is before I learned the true nature of the BEAST.
I once had a crop that out of 12-14 ounces, one single seed was found. Now lets say this seed was from a Hermied plant, and a buddy of mine germed this seed to breed with another of his plants for seeds. Not realizeing what the true genetics were. This little chain of events could go on and on.
I studied up on breeding. I only got far enough to understand that I did not want to try and understand the workings of breeding a nice sweet stinky strain, that was stable and healthy. To me it was just to much dam work when I can just buy 10 regular seeds of a good strain. If I get one female, I am off and rolling.
If someone were to give me free feminized seeds from a top of the line seed bank, I would not even use them. I have bought them before. But that is before I learned the true nature of the BEAST.
Lord Dangly Bits
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Hey, Tagyouit, I am sorry for my outburst. It just blew my mind to read that post first thing back. And yes, I feel strongly about not useing hermied, feminized or what ever kind of wierd off the wall seeds. I really hate the genetic tappering some scientist are doing. One of these days this type of crap is going to really bite us on the A$$.
Lord Dangly Bits
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Here is part of an article in Cannabus Culture Magazine. This was a statement from a breeder. The last sentence made a big point to me.
Now we had ten different hybrid genetics in total with two clones from each to work with and choose from. Even though we were making great strides, we wanted a room full of the same breed with the same size and characteristics. Basically, we wanted many copies of one great female plant so made the decision to play “Breeding Hermans”. We took two clones from one female plant, stressed one of the clones until it developed male sex organs, and then bred it with the other female clone. To our delight it worked – we ended up with seeds that grew into females 85-90 percent of the time and were consistent with the original female plant’s characteristics. We could now plant around 30 to 40 seeds and end up with 30 female plants the same size with the same genetics. We were ecstatic.
However, silver linings often have a cloud attached and it was true in this case. The female plants that developed from hermaphroditic seeds had the drawback of being far more likely than ordinary plants to develop male branches – turn “Herman” – when stressed. More than once, a power, pump or light failure caused enough stress to the plants that they easily went hermaphroditic. Outdoors we had even more trouble; in bad-weather years we could end up with a plant from a feminized seed developing male flowers and blowing pollen all over the other plants, ruining our dreams of a sinsemilla crop. We decided that feminized plants might have a place in our business’ industry, but it wouldn’t be in our gardens.
Now we had ten different hybrid genetics in total with two clones from each to work with and choose from. Even though we were making great strides, we wanted a room full of the same breed with the same size and characteristics. Basically, we wanted many copies of one great female plant so made the decision to play “Breeding Hermans”. We took two clones from one female plant, stressed one of the clones until it developed male sex organs, and then bred it with the other female clone. To our delight it worked – we ended up with seeds that grew into females 85-90 percent of the time and were consistent with the original female plant’s characteristics. We could now plant around 30 to 40 seeds and end up with 30 female plants the same size with the same genetics. We were ecstatic.
However, silver linings often have a cloud attached and it was true in this case. The female plants that developed from hermaphroditic seeds had the drawback of being far more likely than ordinary plants to develop male branches – turn “Herman” – when stressed. More than once, a power, pump or light failure caused enough stress to the plants that they easily went hermaphroditic. Outdoors we had even more trouble; in bad-weather years we could end up with a plant from a feminized seed developing male flowers and blowing pollen all over the other plants, ruining our dreams of a sinsemilla crop. We decided that feminized plants might have a place in our business’ industry, but it wouldn’t be in our gardens.
Kerovan
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You should actually TRY it sometime rather than just listening to hearsay on the internnet. I have never once had a fem seed plant hermie.
Their main problem was they basically used pollen from the same plant to pollinate itself. Clones from the same plant don't work like that. You need two seperate genetic females of the same strain to do this properly.
Here is part of an article in Cannabus Culture Magazine. This was a statement from a breeder. The last sentence made a big point to me.
Now we had ten different hybrid genetics in total with two clones from each to work with and choose from. Even though we were making great strides, we wanted a room full of the same breed with the same size and characteristics. Basically, we wanted many copies of one great female plant so made the decision to play “Breeding Hermans”. We took two clones from one female plant, stressed one of the clones until it developed male sex organs, and then bred it with the other female clone. To our delight it worked – we ended up with seeds that grew into females 85-90 percent of the time and were consistent with the original female plant’s characteristics. We could now plant around 30 to 40 seeds and end up with 30 female plants the same size with the same genetics. We were ecstatic.
However, silver linings often have a cloud attached and it was true in this case. The female plants that developed from hermaphroditic seeds had the drawback of being far more likely than ordinary plants to develop male branches – turn “Herman” – when stressed. More than once, a power, pump or light failure caused enough stress to the plants that they easily went hermaphroditic. Outdoors we had even more trouble; in bad-weather years we could end up with a plant from a feminized seed developing male flowers and blowing pollen all over the other plants, ruining our dreams of a sinsemilla crop. We decided that feminized plants might have a place in our business’ industry, but it wouldn’t be in our gardens.
exactly...hermies can create stable seeds as ive been saying.
too many idiots saying bad shit. ive used this method for making seeds once and all the seeds this year are fine.
