Father blames government 'idiots' as California town mourns killings

sheskunk

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SANTA BARBARA, California (Reuters) - With a California town grieving the deaths of six college students killed by a mentally ill man, one victim's father on Monday blamed the killings on politicians who failed to tighten gun laws after a mass school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut.

Richard Martinez, whose son Christopher Michael-Martinez, 20, was gunned down on Friday night in Isla Vista, California, said similar rampages would continue until lawmakers took action on guns.

"We're all proud to be Americans. But what kind of message does it send to the world when we have such a rudderless bunch of idiots in government?" Martinez said on CNN.

"I can't tell you how angry I am. It's just awful, and no parent should have to go through this."

Elliot Rodger, 22, the son of a Hollywood director, fatally stabbed three people in his apartment before shooting three people dead near the University of California at Santa Barbara.

He then shot himself. All of those killed were students at the school.

Michael-Martinez, described by his father as articulate and tough, was shot inside a deli. He was the last in the killing spree to die.

Martinez said his son died because Congress had failed to act after a mentally ill gunman killed 26 people in December 2012 at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

"These people are getting rich sitting in Congress. And what do they do? They don't take care of our kids," he said.

Legislation after Sandy Hook to extend background checks for gun sales, ban assault weapons and limit magazines' capacities failed to clear the Senate in April 2013. Gun-rights advocates strongly opposed the measures.

CLASSES CANCELED

The University of California at Santa Barbara, which is headed into its final exams, canceled classes on Tuesday for a day of mourning and reflection. It scheduled a memorial service for Tuesday afternoon.

"On Tuesday we will remember and honor the victims of this horrible event, and come together as an academic community to reflect, talk with each other, and think about the future," Chancellor Henry Yang and interim Executive Vice Chancellor Joel Michaelsen said in a statement on the school's website.

The university also has set up counseling services and emergency housing for displaced students.

About 200 people attended a memorial service late on Sunday at St. Mark's University Parish, pausing in front of poster boards dedicated to three of the dead, Veronika Weiss, Katie Cooper and Michael-Martinez.

Rodger killed two women and four men, aged 19 to 22, and wounded 13 people, including eight whom he shot as he sped through town in his black BMW, exchanging fire with police, authorities said.

Minutes before opening fire, Rodger emailed his plans to some 30 people, including his mother, father and former teachers, said Cathleen Bloeser, whose son was a childhood friend of the shooter and received a copy.

Rodger stated his intention to kill his housemates, lure others to his home to continue the mayhem, slaughter women in a sorority and bring his spree to the streets of Isla Vista.

Family friend Simon Astaire told Reuters that Rodger's mother, Chin, received a phone call on the night of the shooting from his therapist alerting her to the manifesto. She called police and her ex-husband, Peter Rodger, and the two raced to Isla Vista, Astaire said.

Chin heard radio reports about the shootings as she drove.

Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown said that Rodger was seen by a variety of healthcare professionals and it was "very, very apparent he was severely mentally disturbed."

Brown said his department had been in contact with Rodger three times. They included a welfare check at the request of his family in which deputies found him to be polite and courteous and not appearing to meet criteria for involuntarily incarceration.

Astaire said Rodger had seen therapists off and on since he was 9.

The Los Angeles Times published portions of Rodger's roughly 140-page manifesto in which he detailed his fear that police would foil his plot when they visited him last month.

"I had the striking and devastating fear that someone had somehow discovered what I was planning to do, and reported me for it," Rodger wrote.

http://news.yahoo.com/california-gunman-manifesto-said-police-nearly-thwarted-plot-004327059.html
 

Rob Roy

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I think the angry father is displacing and is expressing his grief in a way that will be counterproductive to saving lives.

If you take away a persons right to defend themself, violent crimes become easier to commit against the defenseless.
 

sheskunk

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I think the angry father is displacing and is expressing his grief in a way that will be counterproductive to saving lives.

If you take away a persons right to defend themself, violent crimes become easier to commit against the defenseless.
You got to blame someone. I think he just picked the easiest target.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
You got to blame someone. I think he just picked the easiest target.
umm, imo, the easiest target would have been the mentally ill lad, you know, the killer, not his weapon of choice. would he have been pissed at ginzu had the kids been stabbed rather than shot?
 

sheskunk

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lol, woops, the sad thing is, i knew that.. damned blue dream..
still, why isn't he pissed off at the chinese for the knife aspect?

I think it's all part of the conspiracy. The government makes themselves the victim to gain the support of all the bleeding hearts and to take away from the fact that it really was them.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
I think it's all part of the conspiracy. The government makes themselves the victim to gain the support of all the bleeding hearts and to take away from the fact that it really was them.
kinda like the 35 point sandy hook video...
 

Harrekin

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I've been saying it all along, these false flags are simply events used by the NWO to polarize Americans so they can slowly repeal your second amendment rights.

Why'd homeland security buy a billion rounds of hollowpoint ammo?

Why'd FEMA buy millions of body bags?

Cause they were on sale?

Fuck no, they dont want the FEMA camps getting messy when we're all herded into them.
 

MuyLocoNC

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Guns aren't going anywhere, banning "assault STYLE" weapons is pointless and not going anywhere either, the manufacturers will create workarounds, just like they're doing in NY. The stupidity of restricting a weapon because it's scary looking only ends up changing the way it looks.

The banning of high capacity magazines seems to have some traction, but does nothing about the countless mags already out there. Time will tell if they can get it to stick.

I'm not sure how much more comprehensive the background check can be made. They already check every aspect that can result in a denial. Took six days for the pistol I just bought in NC.

The father is attacking guns instead of knives because that's how his son was killed. Unfortunately for his position, none of the gun control measures offered so far would have prevented his son's death. He didn't use an assault rifle, he didn't use high capacity mags and he was in no hurry, buying his weapons legally and passing California's stringent background checks.
 

Harrekin

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Guns aren't going anywhere, banning "assault STYLE" weapons is pointless and not going anywhere either, the manufacturers will create workarounds, just like they're doing in NY. The stupidity of restricting a weapon because it's scary looking only ends up changing the way it looks.

The banning of high capacity magazines seems to have some traction, but does nothing about the countless mags already out there. Time will tell if they can get it to stick.

I'm not sure how much more comprehensive the background check can be made. They already check every aspect that can result in a denial. Took six days for the pistol I just bought in NC.

The father is attacking guns instead of knives because that's how his son was killed. Unfortunately for his position, none of the gun control measures offered so far would have prevented his son's death. He didn't use an assault rifle, he didn't use high capacity mags and he was in no hurry, buying his weapons legally and passing California's stringent background checks.
tl;dr version: Its fucking California, of course those pussies are crying about something.
 

kelly4

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umm, imo, the easiest target would have been the mentally ill lad, you know, the killer, not his weapon of choice. would he have been pissed at ginzu had the kids been stabbed rather than shot?
Dat sumbitch can cut through a can and still slice a tomato!
 

canndo

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dad diverts from the point. Sure, there should be a tad more control over who gets weapons but it was the father's responsability to notice that his son might be having a problem, not the government.
 

NorthofEngland

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He drove round taking shots at people.....
Guns are specifically designed to aid the efficient killing of multiple targets.

There is no place for domestic gun ownership in civilized societies and 98% of the people who defend them are the types of semi-literate trailer monkeys who spend their days concocting batches of crystal meth and impregnating their own cousins.
The other 2% either have a financial incentive
Or they enjoy the chaos.

AMERICA
A LAND SO FREE YOU CAN GET SHOT FOR WALKING IN THE STREET.
 

Mindmelted

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He drove round taking shots at people.....
Guns are specifically designed to aid the efficient killing of multiple targets.

There is no place for domestic gun ownership in civilized societies and 98% of the people who defend them are the types of semi-literate trailer monkeys who spend their days concocting batches of crystal meth and impregnating their own cousins.
The other 2% either have a financial incentive
Or they enjoy the chaos.

AMERICA
A LAND SO FREE YOU CAN GET SHOT FOR WALKING IN THE STREET.
Ah yes the opinion of another idiot from England....
Such a vast knowledge of stereotypical shit that spews from another idiot from England.
 

MuyLocoNC

Well-Known Member
He drove round taking shots at people.....
Guns are specifically designed to aid the efficient killing of multiple targets.

There is no place for domestic gun ownership in civilized societies and 98% of the people who defend them are the types of semi-literate trailer monkeys who spend their days concocting batches of crystal meth and impregnating their own cousins.
The other 2% either have a financial incentive
Or they enjoy the chaos.

AMERICA
A LAND SO FREE YOU CAN GET SHOT FOR WALKING IN THE STREET.
In the immortal words of Jerry Lee Lewis, "England can kiss my ass".
 
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