hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
I agree its way over priced! and a DIY setup works the same. Ive got one and wish I would of
built my own but sinse its in hand now im using it.
built my own but sinse its in hand now im using it.
EZ Cloner advice? Looking for surefire success!
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drgreentm
Well-Known Member
i also agree way WAY overpriced i built the one i have for 70 bucks and 40 of that was the pump alone (536 gph) i guess i myself just think they are very complicated and the method i use i have found works best when i am way less attentive to them just mist them once right after cutting then come and take the top off once a day for like 10 min then leave it till the next day. although i was very interested in the fact that i could veg them in the system, as i only veg for 2 weeks max, untill flowering.
Rockfloatinginspace
Active Member
I also agree that EZC's are overpriced. But since it's here, might as well use it. I'm thinking the best bet is gonna be RO water, Green Fuse, and a bit of H2O2. Hopefully this will solve the slow rooting. I don't wanna go back to the humidome method, as it takes so much longer. Anyone know what ratio to use for H2O2 per gallon? I don't wanna overdue it and hurt the little girls. But I wanna make sure that any bacteria is killed off in the res.
I did try a little experiment last night. Cut off the browned area of the stem, re-split, scored, and dipped, then back in the EZC. I'm hoping this will help out a bit.
Will post pics once things are rolling again. Again, thanks to everyone for the input!
-Rock
I did try a little experiment last night. Cut off the browned area of the stem, re-split, scored, and dipped, then back in the EZC. I'm hoping this will help out a bit.
Will post pics once things are rolling again. Again, thanks to everyone for the input!
-Rock
ClamDigger
Active Member
Hydrogen Peroxide.
5ML per gallon.
i have heard of 1 TBSP/Gallon.
5ML per gallon.
i have heard of 1 TBSP/Gallon.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
7 to 10ML of 29% H202 every three days. dont worrie about hurting plants with H202 ive gone 25ml per gal and no plant issues.
Rockfloatinginspace
Active Member
What about the H2O2 you get at Walmart or Target? I'm pretty sure it's lower than 29%, more like 3%. Anyone know what ratio to use with that stuff? I thought it was around 30ml per gallon, but I'm not sure.
-Rock
-Rock
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
dont use that stuff it has additive in it that are not good for plants, that stuffs for human use.
Here is the one you want, it is in a blue bag. http://www.amazon.com/HTH-Shock-N-Swim-Swimming-Pool-Shock/dp/B003IBED06/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1302210835&sr=1-7 EXACT same ingreidient used for EZ Clone, Clear Rez retailing for $20 a quart. 1 gram per gallon is the same level they are using of the same ingredient. Lot less nasty then dealing with bleach and such. I am using it in all my ebb and flow reservoirs now as well.
ClamDigger
Active Member
interested.
any more info?
i dont have my bottle on hand but i know its 3% and i wanna read the ingredients
thanks in advance
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
I think the info I read was in a AL B FUCT thread where he tells why not to use the store 3% stuff.
either way I trust the knoledge of al b fuct when it comes to H202. if the H202 dont come from a
grow store at 29% or higher I wont use it Il post a pick of what I use.
either way I trust the knoledge of al b fuct when it comes to H202. if the H202 dont come from a
grow store at 29% or higher I wont use it Il post a pick of what I use.
ClamDigger
Active Member
now i remember reading that thread too, thanks Hellraizer!
now to sift through years of posts
AL B FUCT sure knows his shit.
now i need a hydro shop closer then 300k from my house.....
maybe ill throw it in the next Greners.com order
now to sift through years of posts
AL B FUCT sure knows his shit.
now i need a hydro shop closer then 300k from my house.....
maybe ill throw it in the next Greners.com order
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
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theres theres the stuff i usenow i remember reading that thread too, thanks Hellraizer!
now to sift through years of posts
AL B FUCT sure knows his shit.
now i need a hydro shop closer then 300k from my house.....
maybe ill throw it in the next Greners.com order
drgreentm
Well-Known Member
i use the same stuff works great for cheap. the stuff from the store will work but it has more chemicals in it than what you want most of which are to preserve the shelf life of the product.
not to mention you would have to add so much it would actually be more expensive anyway.
jhod58vw
Well-Known Member
hell yeah thats the shit the dude at the shop told me not to waste my time with the ez clone the pump heats the water and they need cool water he suggested exactly what you made told me to put a bubbler and the bubbles are all you need like it very cheap to buildthis is all i use 100% works
i use plain water (not ph'd) no root stimulate or hormones
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hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
im so turned around by this bubble cloner im going to build one in the next couple of day and try it out, not like it costs much lol
joe macclennan
Well-Known Member
hey hellraizer you are absolutely right al b said not to use store bought h202. it either has to be "food grade" or from the hydro store. the brown bottles at wal-mart = bad news for your girls. i have used the wal-mart stuff sparingly when i was waiting on my gallon from the hydro store to come in. but i would not recommend it.
some of you guys are using pool shock? isnt that just bleach? i also believe al b is pretty insistent that bleach is all bad when it comes to plants. personally the only time i use bleach in my op. is when i am cleaning out my rez's. i make sure i flush it out very well before putting my new nute solution in tho.
if you guys are using this "pool shock" successfully it is deff. something i will look into.
peace
joe
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
I use bleach but im looking into pool shock too, I know al b doest agree with using it but it works and ive seen no il effects from it.
Rockfloatinginspace
Active Member
I'm scared to use pool shock on the girls. But I'm def. gonna look for that H2O2 at the grow shop. Pretty sure I've seen it there before, the bottle looks familiar. As of right now, there hasn't been much change in the EZC. The next batch will get spring water. And if that doesn't work, then I'm going back to RO.
-Rock
-Rock
fatality
Well-Known Member
and another rule which seems to be just common sense..... when your batch is all rooted up, get rid of the water in the cloner and clean the cloner out... or at least wipe it out.... use fresh aquafina every time you throw in a new set of cuttings... before i pop mine in i also give each cutting a quick 20-30 sec dip in some clonex