Exploring the Cosmos without a rocket..

So far, Wildest trip,I took was (aside from dmt and salvia, LSD etc) was 15 grams of powdered envies, albinos, and a few other strains, in a tea, that got cooled with 3000 mg vitamin C added..literal OBEs while watching World War Z in theatre, it was the afterlife I swear, all thoughts became a movie, any desire became a holographic reality.. i couldnt tell the difference between thoughts, the movie, and reality..swore i messed up my mind and body for life so i just wished for my friends and family, suddenly we were all hugging fifteen feet in the air in a giant holographic huddle made from ether-film.. shit son, time was slowing right down then speeding right up, from deep voices to chipmunk voices, movie scenes became layered holographic realities, wowzaaa, I went to call a gf and a nurse I couldn't even walk or get in my ride after.. But then I came to, mid-cab ride, estatic with being reunited with mind and body and the endless possibilities, became a freestyling phenom with a sexual energy so potent that it sliced through the ether like laser surgery.. I actually had the balls to tell my hot neighbour I was on such a high sexy frequency that if she s____ed me off she would undoubtedly increase her IQ. Can't lie y'all.. We got pretty freaky, Lmao. Nothing compared to what me and her best friend did though.. WOW.

cannakis said:

Haha so how is did the trip go today?!

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Man I had sooooo much to do today and I was Leary of the Sid taking over, so I'm saving my hit for THIS MORN.. Dp is gonna LOVE THIS STUFF, LOL. best Christmas present EVER

mainliner said:

obe's happen when your asleep ,some are starting to call them " astral dreaming" we used to think they happen when you was actually awake or slightly asleep ..... But no there just a special form of lucid dreaming much like false awakenings .

your actually fast asleep you just don't know it ...... All you know is your in the astral realm ..... Dream realm more like which inturn is your thoughts and imagination...... Funny how the imagination can run wild sometimes lol

peace 'n' obe's

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Great parallel...
I guess an astral travel IS an obe but just while asleep..

It's my understanding that you can't astral travel without laying on your back and going thru a bit of a sleep paralysis, the question is whether you consciously try to move while "stuck" right before you "travel" or if you fade into it without knowing or trying to move..

Many ppl don't know the difference between a normal "dream", and an astral or lucid one, but lucid dreams don't take place in "real life realities" (they will be imaginative or altered in some way).. Whereas astral travels cannot take place in "non-real life realities".. That is, they are an astral version of the real planet as we know it when we are "awake"..

The real interesting part to me is the different levels of lucidity..
There are five levels each split into 2, so ten in total..
You can have dream characters tell you that you're dreaming aka lucid, and still you don't realize..
You can go lucid, but then forget, and go back into normal dreaming..
You can go lucid but can't get dream characters to realize..
You can go lucid to the point of controlling yourself, but not fly or breathe underwater
Then you can go lucid and fully control your flying and swimming but not change the environment..
Then you can go almost fully lucid, changing environments, flying, etc, yet not take care to rid yourself of any predatory energies chasing you or draining you..
A full level 5 lucidity requires all of these.

it is amazing and only really understood by the us ...... But in sorry to tell you buddy that the astral plain is just your own imagination in a lucid dream ........ There is no astral realm or astral travel its just dream space/ your imagination.

we've all been dupped

mainliner said:

it is amazing and only really understood by the us ...... But in sorry to tell you buddy that the astral plain is just your own imagination in a lucid dream ........ There is no astral realm or astral travel its just dream space/ your imagination.

we've all been dupped

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Feel free to try prove those claims, but I wouldn't be so sure.. We just invented these words to help us describe our massive far reaching consciousness and intricacies of imagination..

I would say that we have an astral body that lives in an astral realm, and we assume that body every night, re-entering into it "consciously", with the entire process hinging on imagination itself (I.e. health)..

Lucidity just refers to our awareness or lack thereof, at the time, of the strange duality..

Dreaming itself has been downplayed as "nothingness from nothingville" yet it is realer then reality itself.. Able to touch, feel, smell, see details better than in "real life".. sink into sand, tap into actual personalities and intelligent minds from the past and present, including their exact divine voices and frequencies; see places that exist that you've never been to, able to learn skills without practicing in "real life", crack/decode messages, not to mention bend time space..

Call it what you want, homie Mainy, it's still a massive playground connected to this one with massive potential for growth, progress, information, and experience.. Dream is a word that robs this holographic reality of its prominence ..

We'll clarify the nuances of these "dream-scapes" yet..

I gotta ask my buddy who goes lucid every night.. His girl astral travels every night, and there is a big difference.. It might just be the "silver cord" but I think there's more..

DonTesla said:

Feel free to try prove those claims,


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i had my suspicions then someone told me my suspicions were correct and he tested it with a newspaper at the side of his bed with the days date on ......... He laid down relaxed and had an one, he saw his body below and the newspaper next to the bed but the date was blurry and he couldn't see the date ...... This confirmed nothing until he tryed again and saw that the date was wrong !!

if the date was correct it would have proven nothing ....... But it wasn't and it proved the bed and room and everything in it even your other body is just some sort of lucid dream like a false awaking ......... Its like the day someone told you Santa Claus doesn't exist isn't it

not to worry though now you know that there just dreams ....... You'll know this next time

I'll post a writting from someone who knows more about it than me

this was just my suspicion and a few others ....... Its been proved sorry

http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/astral-projection.html

This is a snip off the link

""think believers would argue my case with the claim that I was only lucid dreaming about astral projection. That's something that neither of us can prove or disprove, so it leaves us in a quandary""


after i read her views on the topic i emailed her to tell her she was right and not to quanda anymore...... Its been proved .... Period

you'll know next time you have one enjoy

mainliner said:

http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/astral-projection.html

This is a snip off the link

""think believers would argue my case with the claim that I was only lucid dreaming about astral projection. That's something that neither of us can prove or disprove, so it leaves us in a quandary""


after i read her views on the topic i emailed her to tell her she was right and not to quanda anymore...... Its been proved .... Period

you'll know next time you have one enjoy

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Shut the fuck up mainliner.

Pinworm said:

Shut the fuck up mainliner.

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that will be immposible for i am immortal

my words will echo for eternity and a couple a minutes ...... Depending on the trafiic

@mainliner

Thanks, dude, but I disagree at that gross over simplification and urge you to keep prying deeper with a more open mind..

"A shaman is someone who understands how the world really works...they have been to the end, seen the end, and have come back to explain it to others..." (You have much work in this area yet, not that I don't too)

"Virtual reality will NEVER pass 5 grams of psilocybin in complete darkness..."

"Language is the edge, of the envelope of reality, and the shaman is the language buffer.."

"Our pure ..wreckless .. inventiveness ..
Carried us further into the heart of the mystery..
Than I would EVER had imagined.."

"Evolution is the slowwwww conquest of dimensions.."

-Terrence McKenna, "Shaman I Am"

on why rationalism and (university degrees) were 100% unnecessary while they were exploring the amazon jungles and galactic cosmos for answers, creating the basis for their entire careers and life works as they knew it..

At just 23, and 19, him and his brother desperately spent their very last savings in a last-ditch attempt to detach from the poisoned mainstream culture/"enemy" and belong to something peaceful, all inclusive, multi-dimensional and multi-verse based.. an attempt to penetrate the strange primeval forests and enter the hyper space of the 'self-directed cultural, cyber-psychedelic revolution'..

By the time they were done, Terrence's younger brother had decoded the human soul, seen all of time thru spiralling mental visual vortexes including back to when the pyramids were marbled, and on top of that all, was able to extract memories from his brother that Terrence had NEVER even shared with him or thought about for YEARS.. essentially proving that you can not only read minds as we know it, but tap into a persons deep subconscious and extrapolate details of memories from past forgotten... In another person

Knowing another persons memories when they have never shared, talked, drawn, written or whispered about them to you... Essentially connecting to the invisible abysses of the mind, but not just ones own mind, the depths of another's persons mind-trenches ..
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Any one that understands the "dream realm" first off doesn't believe they are 'dreams' to begin with.. It is a conscious, spiritual realm, an experiential realm, a medium of ether with many nuances, avenues, and possibilities...
Many enlightened people from cultures abroad, espeacially eastern philosophy, believe it is the afterlife realm, the fourth dimension, one level of density in which we must travel thru, so sleep as we know it is really just "death-practice", the next level, so to speak..

I urge you to talk less, listen more... please read some "dxm research".. That will open the mind up to the arenas you've yet to see exist..

I will clarify more later. Please save your arguments and responses for now..
Anyone that wants to argue should inbox me first, so this thread doesn't become a big shit show full of friction..

Options:
Start your own thread, or find one that's in line with you..
This is to be a tool for curious aeronauts not jaded doubters..
Not calling you that, just saying how I will be running this thread.
Anyone dragging us down, smiling or not, will be unwelcome and or ignored..or uninvited as we morph this thread into a private conversation amongst the contributors..

That said, time for a bowl and more work,
Thanks for the challenge tho..really.
Concept-Haters always up my game and iq, its gravy

"""any one that understands the "dream realm" first off doesn't believe they are 'dreams' to begin with.. It is a conscious, spiritual realm, an experiential realm, a medium of ether with many nuances, avenues, and possibilities..."""


no we don't , we believe its an empty space where we can do what the fuck we want ..... Simple.

its a fun space only the observer ( me/you/all) can play around in ...... Everything within a dream is my/your/our Concious creation/imagination......... Hense the Santa Claus belief i explained earlier........ There isn't a magical chrismas wonderland at the end of the rainbow in an OBE ....... Its just your imagination.

been proved so there !!

Pinworm said:

Shut the fuck up mainliner.

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You have to give him a cock first to occupy his oral fixation...

rory420420 said:

You have to give him a cock first to occupy his oral fixation...

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you tell him !!

fucker

when my more serious friends and I began to do serious work in lsd exploration. We commonly used a tank. We would rotate through, one monitor and one explorer. Sometimes the monitor would take a mild dose.

it wasn't long before we began to experience magical thinking. That we could read each others thoughts or actually manipulate our environment by thought alone.

we were ok with this while high or shortly thereafter but were uncomfortable with it otherwise.

those thought processes were artifacts of our deep emersion into those realms and were not actual. No number of attempts ever manifested in paranormal activities.

what we WERE left with was a hightened sensitivity to seriality and synchronicity which persists to this day.

canndo said:

when my more serious friends and I began to do serious work in lsd exploration. We commonly used a tank. We would rotate through, one monitor and one explorer. Sometimes the monitor would take a mild dose.

it wasn't long before we began to experience magical thinking. That we could read each others thoughts or actually manipulate our environment by thought alone.

we were ok with this while high or shortly thereafter but were uncomfortable with it otherwise.

those thought processes were artifacts of our deep emersion into those realms and were not actual. No number of attempts ever manifested in paranormal activities.

what we WERE left with was a hightened sensitivity to seriality and synchronicity which persists to this day.

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An isolation tank? You're a true explorer!!

Can you give an example of the thought reading for our readers, this is a great testimonial to the penetratability of the consciouss ether.. And supports my claims of tapping into Petro et al, as well as McKenna into his brother Terrence's memory bank

Also, if you can, an example of the environment manipulation..that sounds like some really heightened frequencies, a dmtee experience almost .. Great stuff.

Very solid. Or how do we say, nothing is solid? Lol
And was that LSD 25 or all kinds of LSD that unlocked your overstanding of seriality, ya mon..

Mad curious,
Tesolve

Remember, i said it was an artifact, it was an illusion, we were seeing seriality or synchronicity as mind control.

We had to break the magical thinking. Fearing bad things would happen to others if we accidentaly wished them

All illusory. The real tests were with slot machines, random inatimate objects. No more hits at moderate levels than baseline. But patterns began to appear. Bar cherry bar on two machines at the same time, just missing a payline on the same reel at the same time.

Payouts in quarters of serial or identical dates.

Our perceptions of things were different and that had us believe we ckuld mind read or manipulate.

It took many months to rid ourselves of the illusions.

DonTesla said:

An isolation tank? You're a true explorer!!

Can you give an example of the thought reading for our readers, this is a great testimonial to the penetratability of the consciouss ether.. And supports my claims of tapping into Petro et al, as well as McKenna into his brother Terrence's memory bank

Also, if you can, an example of the environment manipulation..that sounds like some really heightened frequencies, a dmtee experience almost .. Great stuff.

Very solid. Or how do we say, nothing is solid? Lol
And was that LSD 25 or all kinds of LSD that unlocked your overstanding of seriality, ya mon..

Mad curious,
Tesolve

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Where are these other 'lsd's'...?
I'm game

canndo said:

Remember, i said it was an artifact, it was an illusion, we were seeing seriality or synchronicity as mind control.

We had to break the magical thinking. Fearing bad things would happen to others if we accidentaly wished them

All illusory. The real tests were with slot machines, random inatimate objects. No more hits at moderate levels than baseline. But patterns began to appear. Bar cherry bar on two machines at the same time, just missing a payline on the same reel at the same time.

Payouts in quarters of serial or identical dates.

Our perceptions of things were different and that had us believe we ckuld mind read or manipulate.

It took many months to rid ourselves of the illusions.

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Illusions..like,um,chanting away cancer?

rory420420 said:

Illusions..like,um,chanting away cancer?

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Or imagining it away, yes. If you are the universe, you begin to believe the universe is under your control.

It isnt. Sorry, i really am.

There were strange things though. We had booked a flight to vegas a week earlier. On the day of the flight i said "we are not going, the plane is broken" minutes after we got a phone call,the windshield of our plane was cracked (charter).

I once called another member of our group and asked if the kitchen was black. That was the exact question. I had no idea that they had had a grease fire that morning ,and no, it was not black and i have no idea why i asked.

Still, magical thinking, even if we had tapped into something, it would be totally uncontrolable and random.

canndo said:

Or imagining it away, yes. If you are the universe, you begin to believe the universe is under your control.

It isnt. Sorry, i really am.

There were strange things though. We had booked a flight to vegas a week earlier. On the day of the flight i said "we are not going, the plane is broken" minutes after we got a phone call,the windshield of our plane was cracked (charter).

I once called another member of our group and asked if the kitchen was black. That was the exact question. I had no idea that they had had a grease fire that morning ,and no, it was not black and i have no idea why i asked.

Still, magical thinking, even if we had tapped into something, it would be totally uncontrolable and random.

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I've had moments of something like this.

The best was about 6yrs ago, walking into an indoor cannabis garden with a friend, we had our backs to each other, both enjoying our shrooms. I was watching the dance of the leaves in the swirls of air currents when I felt a shout of -something- in my mind.

It was completely overpowering, this rush of emotion and raw energy. I saw, or felt rather, green, the color so bright, vivid, and pure, in my mind. I saw life,love, vitality and energy. I had a moment with the forces that be.

When I came to, barely regaining my balance, I turned to my friend and saw him and he saw me and we both knew that we had experienced the same thing. We both looked at each other and said "green". And laughed our asses off.

Admittedly we were tripping balls but that was definitely a moment in time I'll never forget.