SpectacularG
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Of course what would you focus on now?
Epic 50 Seed Super Sour Diesel Pheno Hunt in my 2x4! Help Growmies!
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Tolerance Break
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Co2 is for pushing plants in an optimized, usually sealed environment. Co2 bags and buckets don't meaningfully increase CO2 from what I've seen and read. You need a tank, and proper measurement equipment.
Speaking of, how are you measuring PAR/PPFD?
Speaking of, how are you measuring PAR/PPFD?
Indeed, I always considered CO2 the last thing you tweaked to pull that last bit out of the plant when you'd maximized all your other grow's weak areas. But most of us just using a decent light, substrate and care can pull much more then we would ever need. So I've thought about it but it didn't make sense to me.
MtRainDog
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Lights on should be based on your availability, or if you're needing to help control temps (lights off during hot summer sun, etc.) Otherwise, your plants don't care.
Or I'm misunderstanding your question. In that case, I would just run 12/12 and keep it simple. 15-30 minutes of additional on/off time isn't going to make any difference.
SpectacularG
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The question i guess it would be what is the possible best light schedule optimized for an indoor growing scenario that mimics at the most the natural grow environment of the plant in the wild in order to maximize yield but also respect the genotype of this particular strain.
MtRainDog
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I'd still say 12/12 is fine. If you're growing indoors, you aren't really trying to mimic nature, you're hacking nature.
I have grown all kinds. My longest flowering strain, 13 weeks, is perfectly happy to flower under 12/12. Like I said, even running 11/13 vs 12/12 will not make a difference. If you want that extra hour to save on your power bill, by all means, go for it.
SpectacularG
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SpectacularG
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Solid take, I still feel morally obligated to respect the most the natural habitat of a sativa dominant so i will probably do a 11.30/12.30
SpectacularG
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Also about 10 seedlings have started to poke out of the plugs!
SpectacularG
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I gave 3 mist sprays of spring water to ones poking and 4 sprays to ones still growing in the soil
SpectacularG
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Also you need to check out this grow, this is crazy, i mean this dude is definetely not a beginner but wow thats impressive, he started with 170 seedlings in a 4x4, reduced to 120 in veg and he flowered 62 in 4x4inch pots. that's crazy. I have some 5.5inch square pots and now I am wondering if I should just flower in them instead of transplanting in the 1gal my 18 bests. I still think managing 5.5inch pots might be too much for a beginner so i don t think i ll skip transplant but wow those looks good, i ll link the harvest day too.
harvest day
harvest day
Tolerance Break
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That's a sea of green approach. Also, that dude is clout chasing. That's not a world record pheno hunt, and he's testing crosses, which I would argue isn't really a pheno hunt.
Traditionally, a pheno hunt is popping a bunch of beans from a single cross or strain looking for different expressions. Take Pineapple fields or Tom Hills Haze. PF has 4 unique expressions, and there's a completely random chance of finding something uniquely special in one of any of those 4 phenotypical expressions. Professor P has a special mother called Pineapple Fields 703, which might be the third plant in the seventh bed, or may in fact be the 703 plant in his hunt.
Tom Hills Haze is an IBL at this point, with fairly uniform plants, but there's a roughly 5% chance (by his count) of finding the special pheno he swears by. He pops roughly a hundred at a time when he goes hunting.
What you think you're going to do is much closer to the definition of "pheno hunting" imo
Traditionally, a pheno hunt is popping a bunch of beans from a single cross or strain looking for different expressions. Take Pineapple fields or Tom Hills Haze. PF has 4 unique expressions, and there's a completely random chance of finding something uniquely special in one of any of those 4 phenotypical expressions. Professor P has a special mother called Pineapple Fields 703, which might be the third plant in the seventh bed, or may in fact be the 703 plant in his hunt.
Tom Hills Haze is an IBL at this point, with fairly uniform plants, but there's a roughly 5% chance (by his count) of finding the special pheno he swears by. He pops roughly a hundred at a time when he goes hunting.
What you think you're going to do is much closer to the definition of "pheno hunting" imo
SpectacularG
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Super Silver Sour Diesel Haze – LA Seed – Official supplier of reservoir seeds
Introducing Super Silver Sour Diesel Haze Redux, a legendary hybrid strain that combines the iconic '98 Super Silver Haze with the revered Sour Diesel IBL. This exceptional strain is a reincarnation of the original that received numerous awards and accolades, making it a force to be reckoned...
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How stable do you think this strain is in 2024?
SpectacularG
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Facts!
Tolerance Break
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I have no idea. The expressions of fillial generations is one aspect of cannabis I really don't understand. As far as sexual stability, I'm unaware of herm tendencies with either strain, so you should be safe.Super Silver Sour Diesel Haze – LA Seed – Official supplier of reservoir seeds
Introducing Super Silver Sour Diesel Haze Redux, a legendary hybrid strain that combines the iconic '98 Super Silver Haze with the revered Sour Diesel IBL. This exceptional strain is a reincarnation of the original that received numerous awards and accolades, making it a force to be reckoned...
How stable do you think this strain is in 2024?
All I know is 10 weeks flower time is suspect, I would expect at least 12.
MtRainDog
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What do you mean by stable?Super Silver Sour Diesel Haze – LA Seed – Official supplier of reservoir seeds
Introducing Super Silver Sour Diesel Haze Redux, a legendary hybrid strain that combines the iconic '98 Super Silver Haze with the revered Sour Diesel IBL. This exceptional strain is a reincarnation of the original that received numerous awards and accolades, making it a force to be reckoned...
How stable do you think this strain is in 2024?
MtRainDog
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I've never even heard of la seed co. How did you hear about them @SpectacularG ? The only person I knew really still messing with sssdh was ojd of connoisseur genetics. The clone is out there for sale I know that.
it's impossible to know how stable it is. you can't even really guess either. Is it a f2? f6? a backcross? in-cross?
it's impossible to know how stable it is. you can't even really guess either. Is it a f2? f6? a backcross? in-cross?
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Tolerance Break
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It's a recreation using the 98 SSSH cup cut and the Sour D ibl, presumably from rez dog. If all their info is correct, it's an f1.
Never heard of them either.
MtRainDog
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so it's a pollen chuck, but the genetics are solid. though i really don't know how rez's sour d ibl is these days. you don't really hear anything about it. but sour d is the hot topic these days so everyone is trying to cash-in... again lol.
Tolerance Break
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Lmao, you're not wrong. Just got a cut of skunktec sour d and VA Chem 91 from farmer Joe myself.
I know kagyu has used a Rez Sour D IBL in some crosses, so that's something positive.
The fact the site says 8 weeks of flower with potential 6 week phenos is the biggest red flag, beyond the seedbank itself being under my radar, but there's thousands at this point it seems.