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Dogenzengi said:

It's my first plant.
Dr F. when you mention size you mean it's Larger than what you would flower or Smaller?

as soon as the stretch hit when a flower reached the screen I moved them to the outer holes.
I continued moving branches away from the center and finally have a very full screen.
I squoze one Bud, it's as hard as a rock! The big one in the back right.

I bought a light meter, I've found that my hood has a hot spot you can see the extra growth around the back.
The hot spot is directly below the base of the bulb.
I know tilt my hood and use my light meter to get a more even spread at 7000+ lumens across most of the plant.
The outer buds are getting 5000 + lumens plus the side lighting.

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Thats whats up, you did a good job. In terms of size, If the plant consumes the screen and fills it by day 14..12/12 than most likely whats underneath will not get much light,.... if the screen is not as dense than i suppose whats in the middle underneath may still get light.... I guess thats key.. if you put your hand under the screen where you would be trimming and light is shining on it... chance are maybe it might still be getting light 2 months into flower but probably not...

My run was an experiment, I've had several different runs and i'm trying to dial in the best method... based on time/yield/quality/ease ..... theres a pic on one of the last pages in my second sig of my critical kush when she hit the screen, (30"x56") i could have flipped her into flower sooner but i wanted my screen enveloped since she was my only plant... I needed the harvest so i took clones and flipped as late as possible..

eventually as you improve your technique your buds up top will be so fat that underneath will all be scraggaly spindley bud that you'd end up using for edibles or tossing

Here's a couple of side shots of my baby .... If you look at the wall you can see the variance lower and lower and dark under..the last pic there's a 25 watt flouro (that I turned on so you can see ) which i use so my clones aren't in darkness...

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Dogenzengi said:

I have lots of growth under my screen, any bud above the screen is just sitting on more bud below the screen.
I did not remove anything, I would have Lost a bunch of buds if I trimmed all of the lower of the plant, I don't understand the logic ??

unless it's a perpetual grow or space issue then I understand.


I run a 400 watt HPS with two 95 watt T5 CFL 4 bulb fixtures on either side of my screen.
photos below.
Why trim if not for space or speed?

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I use 1000 waters with zero side lighting and anything below the canopy on my grows would be junk popcorn that I wouldn't want to bother fucking with. It wastes energy trying to produce these airy, underdeveloped nugs.

Cut it off, then the plant isn't wasting energy trying to grow larf under the net and focues that energy on the buds actually getting full light above the net, which in turn leads to more developed, quality buds.

If you are getting developed nugs under the net, then it's obvious you are not filling the screen properly. Only way they would develop is if they are getting light, so fill that screen more before you flip 12/12 next time. Takes a few runs for each strain to really learn what and when to pull the trigger on certain steps. Scrogging is not a universal one size fits all for every strain.


But hell, I only get 1.5-2lbs per light depending on strain, so wtf do I know.

(Dogenzengi, good on you brother! I think you may be one of a handful that took advice/used your noodle and got the tool of the scrog trade.)

Know your controls, variables, and plants well.

Woodsmantoker

I took a pic of a bud below the screen and a bud shot directly above the screen... Literally within inches of each other.. check it

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Still going. Looking at maybe the end of the month.

Here's a question.....is it better to have a dense low canopy so that lighting can be even and uniform...or is it better to have a tall canopy with 20 in buds and poor light penetration?

The beauty of the scrog is it delivers a uniform canopy if done right. In terms of low and high do you mean trained or un trained? Because I would go with trained..

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Day 9 of 12/12



screen is filling up fast.

CK

What size pot do you use? Thanks

Looking good CaptKush!!

Peace
FM

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harris hawk said:

What size pot do you use? Thanks

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to be honest, I don't remember but I think 3 and a half gallon. I always go with pots that are wider than they are tall because my cab is only like 5'10, but I have also noticed that wider pots usually give me wider plants.

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did some one math and the pots are supposedly 17 gallon...my math my be off, computing volumes isn't my strong suit. Dims are 9 inches tall with a 13 inch circumference so math wizards have at it



CK

captiankush said:

to be honest, I don't remember but I think 3 and a half gallon. I always go with pots that are wider than they are tall because my cab is only like 5'10, but I have also noticed that wider pots usually give me wider plants.

CK

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Hrmm, I never would have thought the pots influenced that. The height and overall ... bigness (lack of a better word) for sure. Interesting. In aero my roots are not contained so I wonder if the plant shape influenced at all?

I wouldn't think that it would make a difference to rather or not it was bushy just the overall size.

yktind said:

Hrmm, I never would have thought the pots influenced that. The height and overall ... bigness (lack of a better word) for sure. Interesting. In aero my roots are not contained so I wonder if the plant shape influenced at all?

I wouldn't think that it would make a difference to rather or not it was bushy just the overall size.

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I can only describe it as width. I won't say its a proven fact, but I have tried every shape available and in my setup, these pots are the best for organic soil gardening in so far as yield vs space. I like them a lot. My observation is really just food for thought.

CK

captiankush said:

I can only describe it as width. I won't say its a proven fact, but I have tried every shape available and in my setup, these pots are the best for organic soil gardening in so far as yield vs space. I like them a lot. My observation is really just food for thought.

CK

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You guys are spot on in Ed Rosenthals book they mention it, your canopy will surpass it's pot's width by up to 2/3rds I think... so the wider the pot the roots can stretch sideways and your canopy will follow

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DrFrankenstien said:

You guys are spot on in Ed Rosenthals book they mention it, your canopy will surpass it's pot's width by up to 2/3rds I think... so the wider the pot the roots can stretch sideways and your canopy will follow

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I thought this would be a perfect time for this!



lol, thanks.

My thoughts exactly

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Hey scroggers have any of you harvested over the course of a few days on a single plant? Meaning taking the big buds down while the others fill out abit more?

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outdoor scrogg

Hello riu,
I have a question about running a scrog grow.
I am currently setting up one side of my flower tent to do a scrog grow.
I have a white widow in veg right now and she should be ready to go into my flower tent in about another week or so.
What I would like to know is if that strain would do well in a scrog grow.
Any help would be appreciated.
I would also like to know what kind of a yield I could expect from her.
my scrog is going to be two feet by two feet.
I would have made it bigger but my tent is only a little more then two feet wide.
Thank-you to anyone that can help me out with this.