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rep is the little badge under my name there is 14 but one died and the pineapple couldnt catch up in time so its dinky. and the grape ape get real purple but its hard to tell by the pictures and the barney is purple inside the buds. watch the updates i post i'll have better pictures soon after i chop

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"id love to see someone grow a blue strain,purple,white and another pretty bud strain and scrog them,how nice would that be if the grower trained them to be even squares in one scrog screen,has anyone seen a scrog with different coloured strains?"

Long ago... I proposed the idea that making the flat scrog frame a shape, or letters that spelled something out (like RIU) would be neat too! Still have yet to see it; guess that means I gotta do it first..

We love to share the love brother!

"Squiltting" LOL

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Anyone running a head high screen?

Got a fella that wants to be able to roll under his scrog. He is chair bound, and I am working on a tutorial for him. Anyone with images that could share, would be greatly appreciated!

Increased surface space sounds good; be aware however, there are other factors to consider. Here is just one.
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When the plants branches are flowering in a position other than vertical, there is a focus of stress on the plants stem that results in energy being used to strengthen that stem; elongation also occurs. The structure of the stem, like most woody plants and trees, has the ability to withstand great force from a horizontal position. Take a lumber board for instance, lets say 2" x 4". Stood vertically your own body weight would likely not be too much for the board to take if you were to stand on the top end. If the board were to be laid down horizontally suspended between two chairs however, your weight in the middle of that board will likely snap it. The scrog method utilizes this very concept. We make use of the low stress gravity has to offer and the plants responses to stress (if done accordingly), by holding the plants relative position to gravitational pull horizontally during vegetative growth, and the opposite during flowering by allowing the plants stem structure to bare the weight vertically. This is why when you examine a scrog grow, you notice large stem structure that tends to be larger than most, below the screen. Above the screen however, stem structure remains standard. When reviewing scrog designs that position the plant in another manner, you can notice these factors more easily. At the points of which vertical position changes, you can visually note the difference in growth and structure. To the untrained unexperienced eye, this may be over looked.

woodsmantoker said:

Anyone running a head high screen?

Got a fella that wants to be able to roll under his scrog. He is chair bound, and I am working on a tutorial for him. Anyone with images that could share, would be greatly appreciated!

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im in a chair. its over rated. you cant manage the top very well once in flower. its a pain in the ass to see bad issues and shite.

mine is about 2 ft tall. about 4 ft wide. 8 ft long. enough for me to reach with a hooked stick to tuck with ease.

woodsmantoker said:

"id love to see someone grow a blue strain,purple,white and another pretty bud strain and scrog them,how nice would that be if the grower trained them to be even squares in one scrog screen,has anyone seen a scrog with different coloured strains?"

Long ago... I proposed the idea that making the flat scrog frame a shape, or letters that spelled something out (like RIU) would be neat too! Still have yet to see it; guess that means I gotta do it first..

We love to share the love brother!

"Squiltting" LOL

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that looks lovely,once I have my first scrog under my belt I will do something like this,i gave my white rhino her first feed to today at 1/10 strength I don't want to over do it is she's still a baby with 4 true leaves,im hoping my super bud will be big enough for her first feed next week,its a pity I wasted valuable time on the p.e as I knew the taproot was damaged but still planted anyway(my other half didn't know what wet tissue was doing in the drawer and she crushed it into a ball and put it in the bin lol,she knows im growing but didn't realise about germination

wheels619 said:

mine is about 2 ft tall. about 4 ft wide. 8 ft long. enough for me to reach with a hooked stick to tuck with ease.

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I haven't put my screen in yet as mine are still babies but my growroom is about 7ft long 4ft wide and 6.5 high roughly and didn't realise that once the screen will be in place it will be hard for me to get to the back so im going to use your method with a hooked stick,i have a litter picker with a plastic grabber I may use this instead,but I wouldn't of thought about that if it wasn't for you,thanks

A couple more weeks and then its time to flip to flower:

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hi I had a powercut yesterday night only for a couple of mins but when I turned the mh light on it took ages then went out a couple of hours later,the inside sqare glows and it has electric pulsing through it but it doesn't fully turn on anymore,i have now replaced the bulb with a 600w hps until I get a mh bulb,will this be ok for vegging until I get the mh,how could a powercut make a bulb blow/brake? or was it an error on my part as id like to know so it doesn't happen again because the mh bulbs are expensive and I don't fancy buying one every week.

^ Power surge possibly, poor bulb. If the power went out for a few moments and then came back on, you bulb would have still been "out". The power back to it before allowing it to cool, likely killed it. DONT QUOTE ME..

Once upon a time, we had a veg room in a cold garage. Temps were below freezing and lights were keeping the room to temp... Lights went out, then came back on and when they did, it blew out all of glass in the hoods. Four of them at the same time! go figure..What a pain.

trichome 1 said:

hi I had a powercut yesterday night only for a couple of mins but when I turned the mh light on it took ages then went out a couple of hours later,the inside sqare glows and it has electric pulsing through it but it doesn't fully turn on anymore,i have now replaced the bulb with a 600w hps until I get a mh bulb,will this be ok for vegging until I get the mh,how could a powercut make a bulb blow/brake? or was it an error on my part as id like to know so it doesn't happen again because the mh bulbs are expensive and I don't fancy buying one every week.

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Like woodsmantoker said, you probably turned it back on too soon. You want to give the bulbs (and ballasts) 10-15 minutes to cool down before refiring.

after reading you are both right I didn't give the bulb enough time to cool and it worked for a moment then went out and wouldn't restart,i have seen a very cheap mh bulb http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/600w-LIGHT-W-MH-Metal-Halide-BULB-LAMP-HYDROPONIC-600-Watt-/261181591069?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN&hash=item3ccfa2ce1d I don't know if I have gave the link properly as im no whizz on the computer lol,but is a omega blue mh bulb it says it out performs all leading brands but I don't know about that,i just don't want to buy another expensive one for it to last a week or two has anyone used this bulb?they also have a 600w red for flowering but its the first time ive seen these,also I gave my white rhino her second feed today im only feeding 1ltr of 1/10 strength because I don't see the point in over feeding when they are small because I find that is when most growers get into trouble my super bud is only 2 days above so will feed next week

hi,i had a powercut a few days ago and it blew my mh bulb,so I am using my hps until my new mh comes (600w) ive just had another powercut my light is fine the whole street was out street lights etc,i may just being paranoid but could it be my light be causing this? as I have lived here for 5 years and never had a powercut before I started my grow

trichome 1 said:

hi,i had a powercut a few days ago and it blew my mh bulb,so I am using my hps until my new mh comes (600w) ive just had another powercut my light is fine the whole street was out street lights etc,i may just being paranoid but could it be my light be causing this? as I have lived here for 5 years and never had a powercut before I started my grow

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mmm. i highly doubt it. lol. 600 watt light wouldnt do that.

good little chucle. your safe.

wheels619 said:

mmm. i highly doubt it. lol. 600 watt light wouldnt do that.

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thanks,youve put my mind at ease lol,

alright so im going to be running a 2x2 with 2 150w hps. my question is would i be better of lst/topping, scrog/topping or just scrog ill probably have 2 maybe 3plants in there,

backyardagain said:

alright so im going to be running a 2x2 with 2 150w hps. my question is would i be better of lst/topping, scrog/topping or just scrog ill probably have 2 maybe 3plants in there,

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I top early to promote bushiness and then SCRoG them, you could top them more than once if you want extra bushiness. I also trim alot during the veg stage to keep the foliage from getting too dense because this invites problems like PM.