Elephant Bud

Near · May 5, 2010

jasper2478 said:
if you find a 100 bucks to pricey i kno your cheap ..... in all honesty their seeds do hold dank.... i always felt their freebies compensated the price if your read my journal you would of got that... please feel free to post some pics of some dank.... heres some of bcseeds gear.... hate on

I didn't say $100 was too pricey, I just made an order larger than that. Even though it's quite a standard price for high quality seeds it is a lot when you consider what the item is. The cost of high quality seeds, clones and herb itself are all pretty ridiculous. They've all been inflated to a ludicrous amount due to it's illegality. I can understand why people pay those prices, you have to in order to get what you're after. I pay those same prices myself and I know it comes with the territory. But the amount that you payed for your seeds is laughable.

It doesn't seem like you can argue this. You didn't even challenge the fact that their yield and THC content claims are complete lies. All you can do is call me a "hater" or "cheap". It's not hateful to criticize a terrible seed company. They're using false marketing and very high prices to cheat gullible people like yourself.

I'm not at all impressed by the pictures you uploaded. The plants look good with nice growth and the finished product looks dank. However, they're pretty ordinary and don't come anywhere near what is promised. I've seen plenty of GHS plants that look better and they come at a tiny fraction of the price of yours. If these plants contain the massive, unheard of amounts of THC that they claim then they should be just dripping with trichomes. I've seen plants that appear almost entirely white and even they aren't near 30% THC. I can't even imagine what 45% would look like. Probably something like the ridiculous images they use for advertising. Your yields looks good but again, absolutely nothing compared to what BC Seeds promises. As far as I'm aware of they claim to have the highest yields ever, by far.

In recent years high quality genetics have become so much easier to access. All this seed company probably did was attain some good, solid genetics and then rebrand them. They just acquire an established strain, unlike the nonsense names they make up, then sell it. Maybe they did a cross but in any case it wasn't anything revolutionary like they claim.

gioiapura · May 5, 2010

Near said:
I didn't say $100 was too pricey, I just made an order larger than that. Even though it's quite a standard price for high quality seeds it is a lot when you consider what the item is. The cost of high quality seeds, clones and herb itself are all pretty ridiculous. They've all been inflated to a ludicrous amount due to it's illegality. I can understand why people pay those prices, you have to in order to get what you're after. I pay those same prices myself and I know it comes with the territory. But the amount that you payed for your seeds is laughable.

It doesn't seem like you can argue this. You didn't even challenge the fact that their yield and THC content claims are complete lies. All you can do is call me a "hater" or "cheap". It's not hateful to criticize a terrible seed company. They're using false marketing and very high prices to cheat gullible people like yourself.

I'm not at all impressed by the pictures you uploaded. The plants look good with nice growth and the finished product looks dank. However, they're pretty ordinary and don't come anywhere near what is promised. I've seen plenty of GHS plants that look better and they come at a tiny fraction of the price of yours. If these plants contain the massive, unheard of amounts of THC that they claim then they should be just dripping with trichomes. I've seen plants that appear almost entirely white and even they aren't near 30% THC. I can't even imagine what 45% would look like. Probably something like the ridiculous images they use for advertising. Your yields looks good but again, absolutely nothing compared to what BC Seeds promises. As far as I'm aware of they claim to have the highest yields ever, by far.

In recent years high quality genetics have become so much easier to access. All this seed company probably did was attain some good, solid genetics and then rebrand them. They just acquire an established strain, unlike the nonsense names they make up, then sell it. Maybe they did a cross but in any case it wasn't anything revolutionary like they claim.

Play with your GHS seeds and be happy ah ah...(I know Franco personally and yes i laugh on you)...anyone is paying you to make bad advertising about BC seeds?hope so...then you can invest in some good genetics.
Have you tested them.....no!
10 years ago i bought Super Silver haze from Neville and was 1000 euro.....You really have no argument and so boring like your friends haters!
Newbies with no cash just need to grow up then can have arguments!
Good for a old dog like me to see newbies like Jasper have the gut to invest in some new strain and test by himself their quality.
Please instead judging others open your eyes and let people do their choice....time will tell the truth!

Jasper i'm almost sure that Upstate is the more uniform strain and from 5 seeds 4 were females.
From 10 elephant 6 were females and from 10 bluetooth 7 were fems.
Elephants are to me two main phenos, the big sativa like showed in 5 plants and the short indica like with only one plant (named Elephantina), the last one is a very small plant(too small) that sprouted several days later and had an harsh life...i saved her life just for fun and two spliffs.
Almost same story for blue tooth...i have some huge plants with small strange buds but two beautyful plants that fit perfectly my Heat's style vertical system.
I can't wait to see a round wall of 80 clones of this shit surrounding my head...it will be a good time for me to come back here and share some pic for sure!
Now i'm back again to work my day and sorry for the rant.....

Near · May 5, 2010

gioiapura said:
Play with your GHS seeds and be happy ah ah...(I know Franco personally and yes i laugh on you)

Read more carefully, I never said that I use GHS seeds. I've never purchased from them and I don't support them. I've heard quite a few bad things about them regarding misrepresented genetics and bad germination rates. However I'm sure they're far superior to BC Seeds. At least GHS is a known quantity with reasonable prices. That's far more than can be said for BC Seeds.

...anyone is paying you to make bad advertising about BC seeds?hope so...then you can invest in some good genetics.
Have you tested them.....no!

I don't think that makes sense. A seed company paying me to criticize an obscure, mostly unknown scam site. BC Seeds is not exactly a prominent competitor in the market. I am curious how much money they make off of rubes though. They probably don't make that many sales but even just a few would make a huge profit considering how exaggerated the prices are.

I'm sure con men would love for everyone to have your philosophy of buying something suspicious in order to test it. Unfortunately that way of thinking leads to massive amounts of money being lost on garbage.

10 years ago i bought Super Silver haze from Neville and was 1000 euro.....You really have no argument and so boring like your friends haters!

That's a ridiculous comparison. SSH is a legendary strain and Neville is of course very well respected. BC Seeds on the other hand is totally unknown, no known breeder or track record. Their genetics are also not given, just wild stories and grandiose claims.

Speaking of Neville, why not just order from somewhere like Mr. Nice Seeds? It's established, well respected and known for having good genetics. With BC Seeds all you have is the stupid assumption that because the seeds cost a lot they must be really great.

Newbies with no cash just need to grow up then can have arguments!
Good for a old dog like me to see newbies like Jasper have the gut to invest in some new strain and test by himself their quality.
Please instead judging others open your eyes and let people do their choice....time will tell the truth!

Both of you idiots have now assumed that I'm poor because I choose not to purchase from a scam site. If you two are well off and can afford to waste money, then by all means go ahead. But don't argue this nonsense, it's tiring.

jasper2478 · May 5, 2010

don2009 said:
I hate you! I hate you! I hate you! Dame that shit looks like DIZANK WOW! Good job man I knew your shit would come out great, thats more than I expected for the first time. Dont worry about them haters they never even bought from them and grew any so I wouldn't stress them. I never grew from BC but everytime I see someone growing that shit it comes out killer looking. Now nobody can hate on those pics unless there fuckin dumb. Hey jasper hows the smoke report? I had some crazy crystal good looking weed but total bull shit. I'm impressed man good job.

thanks..... im really pleaded with my outcome as are some close friends.... was told the otherday that mine is preffered over the purple kush floating around.... so its not just me that thinks it great.... it not as lemony as before but a mild earthy taste ... for my first time .... i did awsome i think..... my pocket seems to think so awell....lol...im glad i had the chance to run this all i wanted was dank and i got it .... sure i may of paid to much in alot of people eyes.... but im over it... the only regret i have with bcseeds is that i shouldnt of tried them again....as i didnt recieve freebies on my last order cuz i paid more express like i did with all my other orders... live and let learn...

jasper2478 · May 5, 2010

near
ghs dont have shit on bcseeds ... straight up .... nothing... id run bcseeds gear any day... i never once assumed your poor just cheap.... please dont be a puss and show what you have.... talk is cheap ..... i was kind enough to share my experince.... and all u do is come hear to diss... i didnt find a need to question the thc level because i really didnt care or believe it ....all i had was faith that it was goin to be dank.... i was right .... i could care less that your not impressed of my photos... im happier than hell with my outcome.... i have no need to argue the point that your in the wrong place with you opinion as you dont even have a single thread nor a pic of something youve grown.... ill bet my first run was/is better than yours. i order from other places as well. ... hears some opinoins on other seed banks i tried.... ghs suck.....dna i have no complaints with...is dank...... nirvana was decent but had a mean tendicy to throw bannanas....kcbrains never again .... i have also picked up some of mcseeds tok..... and some of raskal og gear ..... some of which u can guess were not cheap .... so please go elsewhere with your cheap asss....

Near · May 5, 2010

jasper2478 said:
ghs dont have shit on bcseeds ... straight up .... nothing... id run bcseeds gear any day...

Like I said, GHS is easily superior to BC Seeds. It seems like they have a lot of issues and I can understand why some are so critical of them. But at least they are a successful, established company and are a known quantity. Their prices are also quite low. None of those things could be said for BC Seeds.

i never once assumed your poor just cheap.... please dont be a puss and show what you have.... talk is cheap ..... i was kind enough to share my experince.... and all u do is come hear to diss...

A very stupid assumption since it's merely based on the fact that I don't buy $500 false seeds.

What do my grows have to do with anything? Did I claim I grow better than you? Did I claim my stuff is better than yours? I haven't bragged or challenged you in that way at all. The only thing concerning herb that I would say I'm vastly superior to you at is selecting a seed company.

i didnt find a need to question the thc level because i really didnt care or believe it ....all i had was faith that it was goin to be dank.... i was right ....

I'm glad that you at least understand that their THC claims are total lies. But what you should realize is that blatant misrepresentations reflect poorly on a company. Don't you think there's something wrong with lying about the product you're selling?

Faith doesn't really count for anything and it's not logical. I could justify buying anything, any scam product by just saying I had faith it would satisfy me. Whether or not it's dank is not the issue at all, that's a stupid standard. You could grow dank weed for less than tenth of the price. The only thing that could justify such insane prices is if it really was as great as they claim, which clearly it's not.

i could care less that your not impressed of my photos... im happier than hell with my outcome.... i have no need to argue the point that your in the wrong place with you opinion as you dont even have a single thread nor a pic of something youve grown.... ill bet my first run was/is better than yours. i order from other places as well. ... hears some opinoins on other seed banks i tried.... ghs suck.....dna i have no complaints with...is dank...... nirvana was decent but had a mean tendicy to throw bannanas....kcbrains never again .... i have also picked up some of mcseeds tok..... and some of raskal og gear ..... some of which u can guess were not cheap .... so please go elsewhere with your cheap asss....

Again you seem to think this is a contest that I have challenged you to. To see who has better weed, who had a better first grow or something like that. I'll make it very simple for you: My point is that BC Seeds is a false seed company. Something you have been completely unable to argue against.

gioiapura · May 5, 2010

You are probably not poor of money but for sure you are a poor in the brain...no more time to waste for you!
I sincerly sorry for your little poor life..

i'm sorry jasper but i will not continue to jump in your thread.....i'll just ignore this kind of bullshit and try to give my opinion on what i see with my eyes in my grow room....

How long you vegged the Euphoria R.F.?

Near · May 5, 2010

That's what I thought, absolutely no response. I destroyed your post and you can't even try to defend it. Who's the master and who's the newb now?

jasper2478 · May 5, 2010

lol right on guy .... go smash thing with your ghs.... for a false seed company i did recieve my order and dank..... now why hate? is it because i tried these guys out for my own experience... is it because you find spending $500 to much money.... oh right 100 is alot yet alone 500... id hate to tell you what my average monthly seeds grab is.... the reason i ask for some pics is simple....whos is longer... man up.....

jasper2478 · May 5, 2010

gioiapura said:
You are probably not poor of money but for sure you are a poor in the brain...no more time to waste for you!
I sincerly sorry for your little poor life..

i'm sorry jasper but i will not continue to jump in your thread.....i'll just ignore this kind of bullshit and try to give my opinion on what i see with my eyes in my grow room....

How long you vegged the Euphoria R.F.?

no appologies bud the guy is in the wrong spot for his beliefs... i dont care people have their own opinions but when it comes down to it ...its about customer satisfaction... i have no complaints whats so ever.... i veged for almost 2 months if not more and i had seriouse stretch/height issues...

gioiapura · May 5, 2010

Yeah i still have them in vegetative stage but i topped and took clones....i'll put them in the flower room tomorrow.
They look good right now...will see later..
I can say that my indica like pheno of Elephant bud is ready to harvest in 60 days, also Bluetooth is ready at this time and Upstate need few days more...

Near · May 5, 2010

Jesus, you are stupid. Every point you made I've already contradicted earlier in the thread:

jasper2478 said:
lol right on guy .... go smash thing with your ghs...

Near said:
Read more carefully, I never said that I use GHS seeds. I've never purchased from them and I don't support them. I've heard quite a few bad things about them regarding misrepresented genetics and bad germination rates.

jasper2478 said:
for a false seed company i did recieve my order and dank..... now why hate?

Near said:
All of these wild claims made by BC Seeds, such as THC content and yield, are obviously false. By their own admission those claims are only for "entertainment purposes".

All you can do is call me a "hater" or "cheap". It's not hateful to criticize a terrible seed company.

jasper2478 said:
is it because i tried these guys out for my own experience... is it because you find spending $500 to much money.... oh right 100 is alot yet alone 500... id hate to tell you what my average monthly seeds grab is.... the reason i ask for some pics is simple....whos is longer... man up.....

Near said:
Again you seem to think this is a contest that I have challenged you to. To see who has better weed, who had a better first grow or something like that. I'll make it very simple for you: My point is that BC Seeds is a false seed company. Something you have been completely unable to argue against.

jasper2478 · May 5, 2010

i may be stupid but im enjoying the smoke ... i understand u dont like/agree with bcseeds... i dont go around promoting them nor the other places where i grab my beans... i thought it would be nice to share them to the community... in return all u guys do is hate on the company.... you cant even get yourself to even say good job and looks good... im happy with my with what i have and so are plenty of others.... id really like to see what your growing.... is it that good you dont want to share?

Near · May 5, 2010

Like I said earlier the plants you showed look healthy, the yield seems good and the finished product appears quite dank. But that doesn't justify the ridiculous prices. You can purchase seeds with all of those same positive qualities at a small fraction of the cost.

jasper2478 said:
in return all u guys do is hate on the company....

I've said this numerous times now: it's not hateful to criticize a seed company. I've given plenty of reasons for why they deserve to be criticized. Like so many people you really throw around the term "hater". Pretty much anyone who doesn't agree with you, criticizes you or something you like is a hater.

id really like to see what your growing.... is it that good you dont want to share?

It's tiring just repeating myself over and over and over. You know I've responded to that like five times now. In fact, if you scroll up right above your post I answered it. About two inches above from your challenge is my point responding to it.

Toolage57 · May 6, 2010

man that looks like very nice dank smoke. I was gonna go with BC seeds but their prices are a bit to steep for me since I'm just gonna be starting out. I perfer to buy 15 beans for $50. I wouldn't mind spending $200 on some beans but $500+ is kinda alot when starting out.

gioiapura · May 6, 2010

Toolage57 said:
man that looks like very nice dank smoke. I was gonna go with BC seeds but their prices are a bit to steep for me since I'm just gonna be starting out. I perfer to buy 15 beans for $50. I wouldn't mind spending $200 on some beans but $500+ is kinda alot when starting out.

As i said if you are a newbie is better for you to start with cheap seeds....learn how to groe them and after some years maybe you can invest in something more expensive.

As i said erlier in this thread i ended spending less money for seed with bc seeds that lots of others companies just for the big amount of freebies....no low quality...they gave me 20 Elephant bud seeds when i payed for 10 and i place the order when the price dropped to 395 us so they was really cheap to me....lucky man i know!

Jasper i'm sure that if you ignore this pussy he will fade away like a fart.....

Toolage57 · May 6, 2010

gioiapura said:
As i said if you are a newbie is better for you to start with cheap seeds....learn how to groe them and after some years maybe you can invest in something more expensive.

As i said erlier in this thread i ended spending less money for seed with bc seeds that lots of others companies just for the big amount of freebies....no low quality...they gave me 20 Elephant bud seeds when i payed for 10 and i place the order when the price dropped to 395 us so they was really cheap to me....lucky man i know!

Jasper i'm sure that if you ignore this pussy he will fade away like a fart.....

exacly. The strains they give as freebies cut the cost of what you payed and its usaly the ones that cost more then what you ordered. Hence why they have higher prices but in the end the freebies cut the cost down a good amount. Heck if you spent $500 on a strain and you got 30 free seeds even if they were $100 each but they would send ones that are more then $100 your still paying around $20 each seed and less cuz the freebies would cost $300 alone so that leaves you $200 for the strain you bought. 10 seeds $200 = $20 each seed. And most people that order seeds don't grow seed to harvest so in a way your getting a better deal for that $500 and on top of that if they send you diffrent strains well you could keep the males harvest the pollen and try make your own strain.

If I whent to a cheep seed bank cuz I'm starting out and get 15 seeds for $50 well even if there was 5 females out of the 15 that's still good cuz I can clone them and w/e. But once you've growen the same strains for a while you want some thing new so you look for some thing that's new and try it. If it doesn't turn out that good or you liked it but you want some thing diffrent well there ya go.

BTW I'm not the guy that's flaming BC Seeds bro. He knows that I want to try them out but I'm just starting out

gioiapura · May 6, 2010

Toolage57 the last part of my post is not for you...

My first buy from BC seeds was very cheap....i bought Bluetooth and Fast sweet dream when they were 50 bucks each....they put Big Green as freebies so i ended with 30 seeds for 100 bucks.
Usually you get what you payed for.....not impressed of the FSD but who knows if i was unlucky with my 10 seeds?
Not impressed of the Big Green yield but she is dank and finally i'm happy like a baby i found two nice mothers from Bluetooth and their clones will overgrow my field outdoor this season......50 US few months ago were just 30 bloody EURO so i spent 3 Euro/seed and i can't imagine how many kilos will be hang up in october.....arguments?
I've got a gorgeus Elephant bud male that actually is the King of my breeding project and worth more than any other plant i have...and they are a lot......here my strain list of living mothers from different european breeders:

Top 44
SSH
Big buddha Chisel
Big buddha Blue cheese
George Cervantes Diamond #1
Creme caramel
Santa Maria

These are my creations:

Super White
Choco Haze

Then the canadians:

Upstate
Euphoria R.F.
Elephant bud
Elephant Outdoor
Bluetooth
G 13

The Ele male has pollinated one or more branch of any of my strains and in few days i'll harvest the seeds.......oh my god!!! They are for FREE and they are a lot!!!i need more space......so i'm moving to Spain....the promise land for this businness.
Thanks god my breeding plan is taking over and in few months I will be ready to spread my seeds all over my area.

Here in Europe the Elephant bud is the hype at the moment so i know my seeds will go fast fast fast...do you think a bluetooth x Ele should be nice? Wait and see.....i'm so curious.....

Toolage57 · May 6, 2010

oh ok lol.

Nice collection. You should try getting your has on some BC Ice, Hash Queen, Haze and a few other ones

Near · May 6, 2010

Toolage57 said:
exacly. The strains they give as freebies cut the cost of what you payed and its usaly the ones that cost more then what you ordered. Hence why they have higher prices but in the end the freebies cut the cost down a good amount. Heck if you spent $500 on a strain and you got 30 free seeds even if they were $100 each but they would send ones that are more then $100 your still paying around $20 each seed and less cuz the freebies would cost $300 alone so that leaves you $200 for the strain you bought. 10 seeds $200 = $20 each seed. And most people that order seeds don't grow seed to harvest so in a way your getting a better deal for that $500 and on top of that if they send you diffrent strains well you could keep the males harvest the pollen and try make your own strain.

There's absolutely no logic behind your math. First of all, you have no idea what you're purchasing for that $500. You don't know the genetics, the breeder is unknown and the quality is unknown. The exact same goes the free seeds, and you don't even know what free seeds they're going to send. All you have are the ridiculous lies provided by the site. Do you actually believe that 1700 grams per square meter or 50% THC is possible? Are you comfortable with buying extremely overpriced seeds from a relatively unknown seed company that blatantly lies about it's products?

BTW I'm not the guy that's flaming BC Seeds bro. He knows that I want to try them out but I'm just starting out

Don't worry, no one would ever confuse you with me. I've had to say it about a million times now, but once more can't hurt:

It's not 'hating' or 'flaming' to criticize a false seed company.

gioiapura said:
Jasper i'm sure that if you ignore this pussy he will fade away like a fart.....

Of course you're going to ignore me, because I contradicted every single thing you said. You have absolutely no response for anything.

Here in Europe the Elephant bud is the hype at the moment so i know my seeds will go fast fast fast

God, that is such bull shit. I doubt most smokers in Europe even know what the hell 'Elephant Bud' is. I guarantee if you chose at random a knowledgeable grower in Europe they would have no idea what strain that is. Far less that it be the "hype" of the moment.

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