Eat Shit...and Die! the 'post-antibiotic era' is here and now

vostok

Well-Known Member

The world is on the cusp of a "post-antibiotic era", scientists have warned
after finding bacteria resistant to drugs used
when all other treatments have failed.

They identified bacteria able to shrug off the drug of last resort - colistin -
in patients and livestock in China.

They said that resistance would spread around the world and raised the
spectre of untreatable infections.

It is likely resistance emerged after colistin was overused in farm animals.

Bacteria becoming completely resistant to treatment -
also known as the antibiotic apocalypse -
could plunge medicine back into the dark ages.

Common infections would kill once again, while surgery and cancer therapies,
which are reliant on antibiotics, would be under threat.

Chinese scientists identified a new mutation, dubbed the MCR-1 gene,
that prevented colistin from killing bacteria.

The report in the Lancet Infectious Diseases showed resistance in a fifth of animals tested, 15% of raw meat samples and in 16 patients.


And the resistance had spread between a range of bacterial strains and species
including E. coli, Klebsiella pneumoniae and Pseudomonas aeruginosa.

There is also evidence that it has spread to Laos and Malaysia.

Prof Timothy Walsh, who collaborated on the study, from the University of Cardiff,
told the BBC News website: "All the key players are now in place
to make the post-antibiotic world a reality.

"If MRC-1 becomes global, which is a case of when not if, and the gene aligns
itself with other antibiotic resistance genes, which is inevitable,
then we will have very likely reached the start of the post-antibiotic era.

"At that point if a patient is seriously ill, say with E. coli,
then there is virtually nothing you can do."

Resistance to colistin has emerged before.

However, the crucial difference this time is the mutation has arisen
in a way that is very easily shared between bacteria.

"The transfer rate of this resistance gene is ridiculously high,
that doesn't look good," said Prof Mark Wilcox, from Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust.

His hospital is now dealing with multiple cases "where we're struggling to find an antibiotic" every month,
an event he describes as being as "rare as hens' teeth" five years ago.

He said there was no single event that would mark the start of the antibiotic apocalypse,
but it was clear "we're losing the battle".

The concern is that the new resistance gene will hook up with others
plaguing hospitals, leading to bacteria resistant to all treatment -
what is known as pan-resistance.

Prof Wilcox told the BBC News website: "Do I fear we'll get to an untreatable organism situation? Ultimately yes.

"Whether that happens this year, or next year, or the year after, it's very hard to say."

Early indications suggest the Chinese government is moving swiftly to address the problem.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-34857015
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I'm glad I've lived a good long adventurous life. Only thing on my bucket list is Niagara Falls and more pussy. Other than that I am well satisfied.

I'll let the younguns worry about this stuff. I got mines yo.
Thanks for that totally selfish and egotistical posting. The attempt to absolve yourself of any responsibility for improving the current state of affairs would be laughable if it weren't so dangerous to our progeny.

Please, go visit Niagara Falls soon- in a barrel.
 

GrowUrOwnDank

Well-Known Member
I love you dude. You're always on my ass about shit but I love you anyway. Serious Q. Can I just piss in my compost bucket? Would it help? I've just been adding leaf material and a few coffee grounds lately. Thanks bro. Peace and love.
Thanks for that totally selfish and egotistical posting. The attempt to absolve yourself of any responsibility for improving the current state of affairs would be laughable if it weren't so dangerous to our progeny.

Please, go visit Niagara Falls soon- in a barrel.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I love you dude. You're always on my ass about shit but I love you anyway. Serious Q. Can I just piss in my compost bucket? Would it help? I've just been adding leaf material and a few coffee grounds lately. Thanks bro. Peace and love.
Keeping you on the straight and narrow...

I'd pee on the compost pile. Seriously, it needs moisture and all the microbes necessary to convert my ammonia into plant friendly nitrates are already in there doing their thing.
 

Indagrow

Well-Known Member
Thanks for that totally selfish and egotistical posting. The attempt to absolve yourself of any responsibility for improving the current state of affairs would be laughable if it weren't so dangerous to our progeny.

Please, go visit Niagara Falls soon- in a barrel.
Don't bring up a problem if you don't have a solution.

We need to stop sheltering ourselves from bacteria, all this hand sanitizer bull shit has made our immune systems weaker. Flue shots or booster shots are just diluted viruses so our bodies can produce antibodies to fight once we encounter the bacteria virus what have you. We need to stop being germophobes and start licking more public door handles
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Don't bring up a problem if you don't have a solution.

We need to stop sheltering ourselves from bacteria, all this hand sanitizer bull shit has made our immune systems weaker. Flue shots or booster shots are just diluted viruses so our bodies can produce antibodies to fight once we encounter the bacteria virus what have you. We need to stop being germophobes and start licking more public door handles
Check my thread before shooting off your mouth. My life's work IS coming up with solutions; in my case, I'm helping solve the 'WTF do we EAT after polluting our planet?!' question.

Which one are YOU solving, genius?
 

GrowUrOwnDank

Well-Known Member
I worked in manufacturing for a couple of decades. Oil grease and all kind of chems. I imagine my body is full of trace elements of the chems from working in that environment.

I do however conserve and recycle as much as I can in my personal life. Electric vehicles will become the norm of the future. Some of the world is thinking clean. Other parts aren't. Whatta ya gonna do right? With global transportation things may evolve quicker. The tech curve is shooting like straight up since like 100 years ago. That's my theory anyway. Little kids can't even imagine a world without an iPhone. I remember black and white tv. Not having AC at home or in the car. We couldn't really afford those "luxuries" when my parents were young but, we weren't hurting for nothing either.

I honestly do little things to contribute to not being so gluttonous. But, I'm sure I still leave an excessive carbon footprint.
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
heres my opinion im sure people wont like it always get flack for this but its the truth

animals for food consumption are treated like something in a factory, they have plenty of rules and regulations regarding what must be done to these animals to make them fit for human consumption
we eat as a whole too much animal protein per day, theres no need to eat it at breakfast,lunch dinner and with snacks.
with this HUGE demand for animal protein we filled these animals with growth hormones,

additionally we inject these animals with a wide arrange of antibiotics this is because due to the tight and dirty conditions these animals live in they get sick and they must be treated before slaughtered since only SOME percentage can be passed off during inspection

because they animals are sick they are also injected with several vitamins such as b12 this is why the majority of people who get b12 deficiencies are actually meat eating seniors. (despite the myth that its people who dont eat meat)

this is actually why i originally decided not to eat meat, it wasnt due to the suffering it was because of what they are putting into those animals , they are science experiments and are basically just flesh thats been injected with enough medications to pass off as fit for human consumption.
cows are being feds ground up cow parts, all animals are fed food that isnt even apart of their natural diets,

organic is a fucking joke, organic means they cant have antibiotics but the rest stays if they cant have antibiotics they are sick and have salmonella, and other dangerous diseases and despite that people test the animal products its only 1 and some random number not ALL the meat.

the food and agriculture of this world is killing us and our environments mostly from meat consumption and factory farms but vegetables lack many nutrients today due to over sowing the plot lands.
 

Indagrow

Well-Known Member
Check my thread before shooting off your mouth. My life's work IS coming up with solutions; in my case, I'm helping solve the 'WTF do we EAT after polluting our planet?!' question.

Which one are YOU solving, genius?
Shooting off my mouth? Little sensitive big feller? I shouldn't have to read your thread to understand why you attacked grow and told him to kill himself, all the while not even acknowledging the op.. And I hope that isn't covered in your thread. Glad your helping solve the problem of what to eat when we pollute everything... I'm sure no scientist out there would figure out what to do when there is no food and aren't already working on it. The whole world is depending on you don't fuck this up!

I give amputees the ability to walk and get their lives back one on one. If I'm not doing mobility clinics, or inservices on the weekend I keep self proclaimed geniuses in check. Enjoy peeing on your compost pile, try not to get so much on your balls this time buttercup
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Shooting off my mouth? Little sensitive big feller? I shouldn't have to read your thread to understand why you attacked grow and told him to kill himself, all the while not even acknowledging the op.. And I hope that isn't covered in your thread. Glad your helping solve the problem of what to eat when we pollute everything... I'm sure no scientist out there would figure out what to do when there is no food and aren't already working on it. The whole world is depending on you don't fuck this up!

I give amputees the ability to walk and get their lives back one on one. If I'm not doing mobility clinics, or inservices on the weekend I keep self proclaimed geniuses in check. Enjoy peeing on your compost pile, try not to get so much on your balls this time buttercup
Glad to hear that you're not part of the problem, sweetie.

I lit into useless because he was glibly bragging about being able to shit on the planet without caring about the consequences.

And I'll do it again the next time I see the same selfish attitude. Why are you defending it?
 

GrowUrOwnDank

Well-Known Member
Y'all dudes be all cray man. :bigjoint:

Meat. Yeah I'm gonna have some meat. Sorry. It's the way I was raised. My grandpa fixed eggs and bacon every morning and covered it with salt. He ate meat at every meal. He was in late 70's still growing his own veggies tho, I mean enough to feed him and grandma all year and give a ton away. He died of cancer.

Anyway. I don't disagree with your post or your choice. Peace and love to all. :hump:
 

GrowUrOwnDank

Well-Known Member

The world is on the cusp of a "post-antibiotic era", scientists have warned
after finding bacteria resistant to drugs used
when all other treatments have failed.

They identified bacteria able to shrug off the drug of last resort - colistin -
in patients and livestock in China.

They said that resistance would spread around the world and raised the
spectre of untreatable infections.

It is likely resistance emerged after colistin was overused in farm animals.

Bacteria becoming completely resistant to treatment -
also known as the antibiotic apocalypse -
could plunge medicine back into the dark ages.

Common infections would kill once again, while surgery and cancer therapies,
which are reliant on antibiotics, would be under threat.

Chinese scientists identified a new mutation, dubbed the MCR-1 gene,
that prevented colistin from killing bacteria.

The report in the Lancet Infectious Diseases showed resistance in a fifth of animals tested, 15% of raw meat samples and in 16 patients.


And the resistance had spread between a range of bacterial strains and species
including E. coli, Klebsiella pneumoniae and Pseudomonas aeruginosa.

There is also evidence that it has spread to Laos and Malaysia.

Prof Timothy Walsh, who collaborated on the study, from the University of Cardiff,
told the BBC News website: "All the key players are now in place
to make the post-antibiotic world a reality.

"If MRC-1 becomes global, which is a case of when not if, and the gene aligns
itself with other antibiotic resistance genes, which is inevitable,
then we will have very likely reached the start of the post-antibiotic era.

"At that point if a patient is seriously ill, say with E. coli,
then there is virtually nothing you can do."

Resistance to colistin has emerged before.

However, the crucial difference this time is the mutation has arisen
in a way that is very easily shared between bacteria.

"The transfer rate of this resistance gene is ridiculously high,
that doesn't look good," said Prof Mark Wilcox, from Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust.

His hospital is now dealing with multiple cases "where we're struggling to find an antibiotic" every month,
an event he describes as being as "rare as hens' teeth" five years ago.

He said there was no single event that would mark the start of the antibiotic apocalypse,
but it was clear "we're losing the battle".

The concern is that the new resistance gene will hook up with others
plaguing hospitals, leading to bacteria resistant to all treatment -
what is known as pan-resistance.

Prof Wilcox told the BBC News website: "Do I fear we'll get to an untreatable organism situation? Ultimately yes.

"Whether that happens this year, or next year, or the year after, it's very hard to say."

Early indications suggest the Chinese government is moving swiftly to address the problem.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-34857015
You gonna troll us into an Internet fight and then poof! :fire:You gone.

Sweet troll bro.
 

vostok

Well-Known Member
heres my opinion im sure people wont like it always get flack for this but its the truth

animals for food consumption are treated like something in a factory, they have plenty of rules and regulations regarding what must be done to these animals to make them fit for human consumption
we eat as a whole too much animal protein per day, theres no need to eat it at breakfast,lunch dinner and with snacks.
with this HUGE demand for animal protein we filled these animals with growth hormones,

additionally we inject these animals with a wide arrange of antibiotics this is because due to the tight and dirty conditions these animals live in they get sick and they must be treated before slaughtered since only SOME percentage can be passed off during inspection

because they animals are sick they are also injected with several vitamins such as b12 this is why the majority of people who get b12 deficiencies are actually meat eating seniors. (despite the myth that its people who dont eat meat)

this is actually why i originally decided not to eat meat, it wasnt due to the suffering it was because of what they are putting into those animals , they are science experiments and are basically just flesh thats been injected with enough medications to pass off as fit for human consumption.
cows are being feds ground up cow parts, all animals are fed food that isnt even apart of their natural diets,

organic is a fucking joke, organic means they cant have antibiotics but the rest stays if they cant have antibiotics they are sick and have salmonella, and other dangerous diseases and despite that people test the animal products its only 1 and some random number not ALL the meat.

the food and agriculture of this world is killing us and our environments mostly from meat consumption and factory farms but vegetables lack many nutrients today due to over sowing the plot lands.
LIKE ..
Last week I'm visiting an old stoner dying of lung cancer, he never smoked tobacco in his life, ain't that the shits?

while I was there also noticed half dozen young guys, playing poker I asked the nurse who said they

all had bowel cancer, none of these guys was over 30, and many well built not fat ...I smuggled in a keg of KFC chicken

and none took a bite ...that really freaked me out

my2c
 

vostok

Well-Known Member
You gonna troll us into an Internet fight and then poof! :fire:You gone. Sweet troll bro.
THIS:

Thanks for that totally selfish and egotistical posting.

The attempt to absolve yourself of any responsibility

for improving the current state of affairs would be laughable

if it weren't so dangerous to our progeny.

Please, go visit Niagara Falls soon- in a barre
l
.
 
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ttystikk

Well-Known Member
i guess my whole point is you can do anything in your life to make your impact a little bit smaller thats great but ultimately it will be up to world leaders ot set up and make proper changes to create bigger impacts and make the world last longer
Quite. So we lead by example, innovate to find better ways to solve our problems- and fight for the representatives who will advance the same goals in Washington.
 

Dr.Pecker

Well-Known Member
I'm glad I've lived a good long adventurous life. Only thing on my bucket list is Niagara Falls and more pussy. Other than that I am well satisfied.

I'll let the younguns worry about this stuff. I got mines yo.
Niagara falls is a disappointing land grab attraction. If you go, you need to see both sides or you're cheating yourself. It's wet so be ready for that, go when its hot.
 

Dr.Pecker

Well-Known Member
I never take antibiotics. I got sick a few times a while back, maybe six or seven years ago. I almost went to the hospital because the bug lasted two weeks. It was a pain in the ass to kick but now I don't get that sick anymore. Probably all for nothing.
 
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