Dyna-Gro vs General Hydroponics (Dumpster Grow)

Tempe420

Tempe420

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Have you tried comparing a Bloom run to a flowering run using just the Foliage Pro? Ive heard good things.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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Tempe420 said:
Have you tried comparing a Bloom run to a flowering run using just the Foliage Pro? Ive heard good things.
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I've been experimenting with 'no bloom' in flower in hydro for a few months now and am just finishing up a run with foliage pro. It worked well but I need another run with FP.
 
swedsteven

swedsteven

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wsup finaly after all this
evrything you bring us is so good info .
i was using so many bottle and now im just havesthing the best weed that i ever grow in 5 years exept 1 time i grew the same genetic that im doing now with organic nut that my local store was selling for like 600 $ for all is bottles.but i will never grow with nothing else then dynagro my lacheese produce more then what the reservaprivada say lol dynagro kick but
im groin in soil promix and i switch my grow to bloom slowly and ^potasium silica just like you teach us lol
1week flow 4ml grow 1ml bloom
2week flow 3ml grow 2ml bloom
3week flow 2ml grow 3ml bloom
4week flow 1ml grow 4ml bloom
5week flow 0ml grow 5ml bloom
6week l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l
7week same as 5week
8week flush ppm of soil before flush is like 1800 run off i dont see the difference if i dont flush taste the same cheaper to flush lol
never i spent that amount of money to do it lol 20$ soil 25$ dynagro stuff for half the 2 bottle and there it is 3.5 pound under 2 light 1000w ready for the next one i dont find my camera charger when i will i will post some pic this is the nut no more bullshit thank again bro and sorry for my english im french canadien .. see ya soon and love wath you did with dose bacteria and the breeding project your the best
 
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cortasetas

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Hi HB, I have been reading many of your posts for a while and learning a lot. Thank you.

I know you like your plants well feed and green until the end. But I have been reading how nitrogen affects to production of THC, it has been demonstrated that when you find more nitrogen in the big leaves you get less THC content.
http://www.internationalhempassociation.org/jiha/jiha4207.html

wouldn't it be preferable to let the leaves yellow at the mid-end of flowering?
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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cortasetas said:
Hi HB, I have been reading many of your posts for a while and learning a lot. Thank you.

I know you like your plants well feed and green until the end. But I have been reading how nitrogen affects to production of THC, it has been demonstrated that when you find more nitrogen in the big leaves you get less THC content.
http://www.internationalhempassociation.org/jiha/jiha4207.html

wouldn't it be preferable to let the leaves yellow at the mid-end of flowering?
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I'm not too keen on clicking links on these sites so if you'd like to cut-and-paste that article, I'd definitely give it a read.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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cortasetas said:
I can post the link to the pictures I have uploaded to Imageshack. I don't think Imageshack will harm your computer.
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Thanks, that's much easier to read!

I advocate keeping plants green and healthy until harvest and this study doesn't say that approach is wrong, it's saying that overloading an element can have an affect on the final product. I agree with that. Hands down, without a doubt, N is the most important element when growing cannabis. But as this study shows, balance is key.
 
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cortasetas

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homebrewer said:
Thanks, that's much easier to read!

I advocate keeping plants green and healthy until harvest and this study doesn't say that approach is wrong, it's saying that overloading an element can have an affect on the final product. I agree with that. Hands down, without a doubt, N is the most important element when growing cannabis. But as this study shows, balance is key.
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The thing is, I've seen how many say that if you see your plants yellow at mid flowering, you should not do anything about it, as they are getting the N from their own leaves.... and therefore you would have more THC content in your buds.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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cortasetas said:
The thing is, I've seen how many say that if you see your plants yellow at mid flowering, you should not do anything about it, as they are getting the N from their own leaves.... and therefore you would have more THC content in your buds.
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It sounds like you've got some testing to do ;).
 
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cortasetas

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HB, perhaps you could help me understand.

Lately I have been studying the absorption of nutrients during growth and flowering, and there is something I don't get. The Dyna-gro grow has an NPK ratio of 7-9-5.

I don't understand why there is such a high content of phosphorus. Is it because, as I have read, it is a very soluble nutrient and is flushed away easily?

On the other hand if you are using, as they recommend, their Prottek additive, you are adding potassium to the formula. Ending up with almost as much potassium as nitrogen.

I have seen your grows and the results are obvious... it's just that I don't understand.

this image by APTUS HOLLAND has been very helpful to me
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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cortasetas said:
HB, perhaps you could help me understand.

Lately I have been studying the absorption of nutrients during growth and flowering, and there is something I don't get. The Dyna-gro grow has an NPK ratio of 7-9-5.

I don't understand why there is such a high content of phosphorus. Is it because, as I have read, it is a very soluble nutrient and is flushed away easily?

On the other hand if you are using, as they recommend, their Prottek additive, you are adding potassium to the formula. Ending up with almost as much potassium as nitrogen.

I have seen your grows and the results are obvious... it's just that I don't understand.
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DG's 7-9-5 Grow formula is essentially a balanced formula that can be used from start to finish and while it does supply more phosphorus than I think is really needed, it's not going to hurt you like the high P, low N combo of DG's Bloom formula.


this image by APTUS HOLLAND has been very helpful to me
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That chart from aptus is less about the science of mineral uptake and more about them trying to sell you a different bottle of snake oil during each week of the flowering period. Aptus is just the latest company to market unneeded, over-priced products to growers who don't know any better.
 
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cortasetas

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On the other hand, after calculating the General Hydroponics rates, it seems that in growth they give 35-17.5-45 in drain to waste and 70-30-90 in recirculating systems. (these ratios are similar to the used by technaflora)
These major contents in Potassium in growth are the opposite to the Dyna-gro rates mentioned before. At the beginning I thought nitrogen was the most important element in growth.


  • That chart from aptus is less about the science of mineral uptake and more about them trying to sell you a different bottle of snake oil during each week of the flowering period. Aptus is just the latest company to market unneeded, over-priced products to growers who don't know any better.​
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Well... before reading this I bought some guano for my outdoor (4,4-25,6-3,2) for early mid flowering, and had already some Flavor (atami) (0-0-8) that I'll use from mid to late flowering.
I know that according to the Dyna-gro and GH ratios this doesn't make sense. But I'll follow the chart as an experiment. I'll let you know how my Somango is doing :)
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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cortasetas said:
On the other hand, after calculating the General Hydroponics rates, it seems that in growth they give 35-17.5-45 in drain to waste and 70-30-90 in recirculating systems. (these ratios are similar to the used by technaflora)
These major contents in Potassium in growth are the opposite to the Dyna-gro rates mentioned before. At the beginning I thought nitrogen was the most important element in growth.
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Potassium is an important element though I'm not sure that I get why it's emphasized in these cannabis-specific formulas given the plants that actually need a decent shot of K. In hydro though, I'd be interested in trying that (0-0-8 ) formula you mention just to see if a measured boost of K has any positive affect.
 
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