Dutchmasters Reverse,a study of hermie's.

dlively11

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Reverse has worked for a strain I have that ALWAYS goes hermi on me and badly. Love the strain but half the time it is ruined because of this. I spray with Coco wet which is $5 for a small bottle but you only need 1/2 tsp a gal. I spray first day of 12/12 and again at 10 days. That strain no longer hermies . Also you can spray the mother plant befpore taking the clones and it is supposed to help pass the hormone on to the new plants. you cna not use the stuf once your plant is well into bloom and expect it to do anything. It wont work in that case. I spray with lights off.
 

terrance.jbatey

Active Member
o.k so ive bn studying this in some grows ive done scientificly to see if it works ....since im am able to grow large quantities ...but have bn studying it for ages now.(even tho now since it does hold sum carsogenics nutes in it .. is not on w.a shelves in australia at most retailers).we' ve had mad succsess rates... as high as 90% in outdoor grows.....ive found that useing it two weeks b4 flower sumtymes has it advantadges if known to b a hermaphradite strain...but other crops i spray at the verry start of flower.......n ten days later check for sex.....if male ...rip..if hermie ......spray again....10 days later n if that is working....ive found effective another ten days.&sumtymes depending on the strain and it's hermaphadite capacity's if it is a hermie streain continue untill not needed no more...every ten days but use bottled spring water that is pure....to give it inbetween foilar sprays ...always use a foilar spray with it ....such as pentrator from dutch master ...because if not i wont go into how right now coz i dont have the tym but it does damage the intake cells if u dont use penerator....regarding foilage spray..but as long as u have sumthin akin to pentrator your right .....even tho i go the extra yard n grab penetrator.....and spray is really meant to b done with lights on..but hey if ur having good results do so in dark @dliveley but trustme it does work..if u catch ur plant early enough.....i always remove pollen sack's tho ......always helps...n pod sacks....usually is hepfull.......
 

Capt. Stickyfingers

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Reverse worked for me on my Sour Kush (OGxSourD). That thing would fill up with nanners. Now I use reverse on it every round and haven't found more than one or two seeds out of a whole 2 1/2 ounces. Great results for me.
 

georgeforeman

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there are phenos so weak and prone to hermie that there is nothing your can do to prevent it. Reverse will not work on the weak phenos, but has worked for me in other cases.
 

ZeeeDoc

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I can vouch for DMR- Ive used it half way though flowering when i noticed tiny tiny seeds and cropped the lady 4 weeks after and the seeds that were there didnt get any bigger, and the plant seemed to get back on track and produce.

I would defo defo recommend this product. I didnt buy penetrator I brought grow tec wetting agent for £2.50 a bottle. Worked just fine. Even with it being late on in flowering, there was no taste probs or any burn probs on end product.

I would probably use this on all my next grows as preventive measure. just for piece of mind!
 

streets

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I will first admit that i havent read all 18 pages of this thread just thought i would chime in with my experience with REVERSE.

So here is what happened.

I got myself some NIRVANA PPP. After 11weeks of Veg i threw this lovely looking lady into flowering and during week1 she started breaking out some NANA's. Nothing major just mainly from some of the bracts on the stems.

So i popped on over to my Local Hydro shop to see if they stocked Reverse, after reading all the hype i was willing to pay the price. Here in the UK it was £20 for the REVERSE and £16 for the SATURATOR. Now i did SOME research on it. How it was developed for Pumpkins and stopping the male flower from creating the seeds inside a pumpkin. I too wasnt sure how it worked and to be honest i am still unsure how it properly works.

So after i got my reverse and the saturator i gave my PPP a spraying down then 10days later another spraying.

The one thing i did notice was that my leaves became slightly burned from the reverse. It mentions about spraying during lights on etc and i do agree its probably needed but i would personally recommend raising your lights up. So after around 4days i noticed a couple of NANAs still there. On day 10 i sprayed again and had no further NANA occurances.

Now it could be the strain or the phenotype but my PPP was a supposedly 9 week flowering strain and i harvested it yesterday after 13weeks of flowering. The buds did not swell into hard colas but more into foxtail specimens.

NOw i dont have any more of this strain to work with and to be honest the last 24weeks have made me not want to try the nirvana PPP again. I still have plenty of REVERSE and the SATURATOR left for any problems further down the line with any breakouts etc.


Sorry if this wasnt experience that you were looking for but i had to chime in with it.



Peace



J
were these fem seeds? i just ordered 5 from attitude....
 

max316420

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I was just wondering, what the ingredient in reverse that actually makes it work? I have been trying to find a ingredient list but can't. From what I have read it's ratio is just different? just curious....
 

panhead

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abit late but, the guy at my store said its the same stuff they use to make seedless watermelons. So ya
The whole purpose of this experiment was to get away from the bullshit spewed by grow shop salesmen,all they know is the nonsense manufacturers tell them in the how to sell product videos & lit they supply.

The whole seedless watermellon deal has been the company sales pitch ever since the product came out.
 

resinousflowers

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so most ppl who have tried DMR are very happy with it from what ive read on here and other forums.i think its basically what they use to make seedless melons etc.

anyway this is what it sais on their website.

Modern science allows Gold Range REVERSE to achieve this remarkable feat by its beneficial effects on the Mesophyll layer of the plant. This layer is responsible for most of a plants energy production (photosynthesis) and more importantly is the starting point of all the metabolic pathways. Simply put, the selected minerals provide your plants with the vigour they need to channel the correct metabolites in the pathways responsible for flowering, helping to correct any imbalances.
 

resinousflowers

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i think this stuff is good for plants from fem seeds if used within a week into flowering,and then 10 days later.i think most ppl will be happy with results if its used that way.
 

max316420

Well-Known Member
I just don't see how this stuff could possibly work like they say it does?? Does anyone have a list of ingredients?
 

gudkarma

New Member
DMR works.

i know of not a single issue with DM products though i use different (basic) chems to get my results.

however, it contains phospholipids.

you mix it out, use it, and disguard the leftover. no saving DMR.

i have tangible experience using the product (one time on 12 plants) & it definitely works.
 

gudkarma

New Member
i think this stuff is good for plants from fem seeds if used within a week into flowering,and then 10 days later.i think most ppl will be happy with results if its used that way.
why would you do that?

fem seeds dont bust hermies or need preventative measures other than proper grow room enviro.

you'd be wasting serious $ homie.
 

vic420

Active Member
Thats good to hear but please come with a better reply than "bullshit",im a guy thats spent $60 on the product so obviously i want it to work but i'd like a little more info if you please.

1 Why does it kill hermies.

2 How does it kill hermies.

3 Why are you so sure it kills hermies.

4 What has it done in your grows.

5 How long have you used the product.

What you just posted is exactly what the manufacturer states about the product,please explain in vivid detail your personal experience with the products.
i mite be a little late on the entire subject. but i have been using reverse and saturator for the last 2 grows as i found a bagseed in a bag of the stickiest bud ever.. and it ended up female. grew fine the first time no hermi at all. took clones of it for a SOG and then i had a couple problems in my area with power outages..so the light stress ended up hermying and as of now i went and spray down all the plants that have hermyed out ... and i went picked out all the male parts.. and anything that looked like it could potentially be pollen sack i just took a qtip and tabbed it onto the nanner and a couple days later i do the same thing and the nanner drys right out and falls off or i pull it off... and what i think happens is .. reverse mite actualy just make the pollen sterile kinda like water.... but who knows.. i just did another run of it tonite i will post wen i see some more results..
 

bigbudheadshrimp

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I know this is an old thread but an answer is never too late. I believe the active ingredient is ethephon which can also be found in Monterey Florel and Optic Foliar Switch. It works by providing the plants with ethylene which is like estrogen for plants.

I'm using Monterey Florel as a foliar spray at 30 mL/gallon with a couple drops of dish soap pH'ed to 4.5. I will report back with the results come harvest.
 

datruth585

Active Member
super late but just though Id add my '2cents'.. Reverse.. I believe just to be a ethylene producer, just as colloidal silver is a ethylene inhibitor(makes hermies). Ethylene makes female sex expression in plants. there's some if on it throughout the web, In theory you can turn a male female with the stuff.. Ive experimented with it and it works..Now i wouldn't recommend this to any one, so don't try this.. But Ive also played with ethylene glycol (antifreeze) in dilute amounts (2ml to L) sprayed 10 plants (bag seed) and had 9 females, and 1 that just wouldn't sex much like the author did.
 
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