Dutchmaster Reverse & Foliars

ganjagoddess

ganjagoddess

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Hey seamaiden,

For your interest, I am planning on spraying this stuff in about a week, and I will post a tutorial of some sorts and info I found about it. I picked up a liter of the reverse and a liter of the penetrator.

Although If you read the directions I will use like 1/8 the penetrator to all the reverse?

I think penetrator is nessecary, but they should sell it in a smaller bottle, or include it with reverse for the tiny amount you actually need, they must be making alot extra advertising it as needing penetrator...

It is getting sprayed onto 200 plants that are presumed to be half male, although they wont be showing sex yet, so we will see what that does... Interested in what effect it will have on males...

Ne ways thats my 411 on the subject...

Cheers!

GG
 
gvega187

gvega187

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lol yeah you will go through 9 bottles of that reverse before you get done with your one bottle of penetrator.
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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ganjagoddess said:
Hey seamaiden,

For your interest, I am planning on spraying this stuff in about a week, and I will post a tutorial of some sorts and info I found about it. I picked up a liter of the reverse and a liter of the penetrator.

Although If you read the directions I will use like 1/8 the penetrator to all the reverse?

I think penetrator is nessecary, but they should sell it in a smaller bottle, or include it with reverse for the tiny amount you actually need, they must be making alot extra advertising it as needing penetrator...

It is getting sprayed onto 200 plants that are presumed to be half male, although they wont be showing sex yet, so we will see what that does... Interested in what effect it will have on males...

Ne ways thats my 411 on the subject...

Cheers!

GG
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Very cool, unless... hey, it wouldn't reverse females into being males, would it? That would be SERIOUSLY messed up. :lol: I haven't taken the time to really read up on it, never heard of it before littlebat asked me about it. I did quickly peruse the posts in this thread about it, I recall you, or someone, mentioned it was developed to grow things like seedless watermelons and the like.

Yes, they should sell the Penetrator along with the Reverse. That's like selling the two parts of a two-part epoxy separately. :?
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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gvega187 said:
reverse does not change the sex of a plant. It is used for "making seedless watermelons etc".
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Then this is where littlebat and I need to do some better research, it seems. So, if a plant is hermaphrodite, it can prevent seed formation. If it's female, it will also prevent seed formation even if pollinated, correct? If it's male, it won't even get a vasectomy, it will still be male, but all the females will have had tubal ligation. Have I got that right?
 
gvega187

gvega187

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yeah thats it. I don't know what would happen to a male if you sprayed it. This is an experiment not worth trying. I can tell you that it will not magically become a female though.
 
msdsm39

msdsm39

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I have used it twice on my hermie big bud strain. It doesn't affect the pollen sacs, so I still pick them off to keep the amount of pollen moving around to a minimum. I think it works well enough. No one who I've share the big bud with has complained about the seeds, even though I ended up with half a dozen or so in my ounce. :hump::joint:
 

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Hick 13

Hick 13

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GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY!!! Probably a day late and a dollar short here but, what the haaashish! I just grabbed me some of that there Dutch Master Reverse and I got the two to three times on foiliar, but I;ll be darned if'in the bottle says anywhere what the mix ratio is. We got three liquids here, H2o, a Salfactant, and the Reverse, so that leaves a good size room for error, companded by the mere three applicatios. Soooo, anyone, emmm, anyone, ummm uumm ? Right then 'l be waiting.
 
gvega187

gvega187

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yeah I cant remember the exact ratio...but it does say on the bottle. It is a VERY small amount of penetrator and a ton of the reverse. You will need to soak your plants thou a few times throughout flower. IT is something like 30ml penetrator to a litre of reverse, but don't quote me on that just check the bottle again.
 
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McGruppsMonsters

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Penetrator : 60 ML per liter

Reverse: 10 ML per liter.

So the earlier reports that you use alot of Reverse and little Penetrator are incorrect. These are the correct measurements, they are written right on the bottle.
 
panhead

panhead

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Aybody reading this should not waste one red cent on Dutchmasters Reverse or Dutchmasters Penetrator in hopes that its a pollen knock down or in hopes of it killing off hermraphodititic traights in female plants.

The reverse/penetrator combo does not kill pollen,it does not stop pollen,it does not stop plants from producing hermie pollen sacks,it does not stop plants from turning hermie to start with,it does not knock down pollen that has been released any better than plain water,in fact it does nothing at all to prevent or stop anything do do with hermraphoditic plants in any way.

Myself & several others have just about finished a detailed experiment with the Reverse/Penetrator products & these products flat out do not work.

Anybody thinking about buying these products to work against hermies in any way should read the thread in the link below,i think that the participants in the dutchmasters experiment in the thread linked below have proven without a shadow of a doubt that Dutchmasters Reverse is 100% snake oil.

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/139699-dutchmasters-reverse-study-hermies.html
 
gvega187

gvega187

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I agree with panhead. And grups u can blow me with that anal incorrect shit....just trying to help. As I also said...measurements are listed on the bottle. This makes your post absolutely pointless except to stress that YOU know by heart the almighty ratios. ppeacceee

try growing without pollen sacks and you will be surprised how much bud you receive.
 
resinousflowers

resinousflowers

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panhead said:
Aybody reading this should not waste one red cent on Dutchmasters Reverse or Dutchmasters Penetrator in hopes that its a pollen knock down or in hopes of it killing off hermraphodititic traights in female plants.

The reverse/penetrator combo does not kill pollen,it does not stop pollen,it does not stop plants from producing hermie pollen sacks,it does not stop plants from turning hermie to start with,it does not knock down pollen that has been released any better than plain water,in fact it does nothing at all to prevent or stop anything do do with hermraphoditic plants in any way.

Myself & several others have just about finished a detailed experiment with the Reverse/Penetrator products & these products flat out do not work.

Anybody thinking about buying these products to work against hermies in any way should read the thread in the link below,i think that the participants in the dutchmasters experiment in the thread linked below have proven without a shadow of a doubt that Dutchmasters Reverse is 100% snake oil.

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/139699-dutchmasters-reverse-study-hermies.html
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well ive tried it and it does work.many other ppl have tried it and had good results too.maybe you didnt use it within the recommended 15 minutes.after that its useless.
or maybe you got the mixture wrong.
 
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johndoesit

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I have used this on multiple occasions. As long as the stress factor that initiated the herm is gone (light leak, nute lockout, heat stress, etc.) then reverse works fantastic.

Seeds stop developing and nanners stop growing. Nanners that are sticking out enough will fall off on their own for the most part and the ones that don't are easilly knocked off. It also seems to quicken the process of returning to flower. If you herm in week 6 of flower and spray immediately you can get away with maybe an extra week of flowering. If you don't spray during a week 6 herm you will pretty much get a half ass flowered nug with lots of mature seeds / herm flowers. The energy it saves does a lot on top of preventing the maturation of the male flowers. If you have a strain you want to keep to yourself and it herms you can use this to sterilize the seeds if they are sprayed before they mature they will not grow :P

McGruppsMonsters said:
Penetrator : 60 ML per liter

Reverse: 10 ML per liter.

So the earlier reports that you use alot of Reverse and little Penetrator are incorrect. These are the correct measurements, they are written right on the bottle.
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From their website:
"* Important * Add Gold Range SATURATOR to undiluted Gold Range REVERSE at the rate of 10 ml / 2 teaspoons per litre / quart only! A 500 ml / ½ quart spray bottle will require 5 ml / 1 teaspoon of Gold Range SATURATOR and a 250 ml / 8 oz spray bottle will require only 2.5 ml / ½ teaspoon of Gold Range SATURATOR. "

When using these together you add a little saturator to a lot of reverse.
 
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