DUCK & COVER: California missile launch remains a mystery 'unexplained,' ICBM ...

fitch303

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Clearly it wasn't a plane, you can see the flames shooting out of the bottom of the object. My dad mentioned it might have been a plane with it's afterburners on, as if you can see a jets afterburners at thousands of feet in the air when it's still light outside lol.
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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what goes up must come down ,where did it land?
The story is the same, "We don't know who launched it", "We don't know why" and "We don't know where it went".
*Throws the Bullshit flag*
All this high tech military gear & they don't know????
BBC only gave a one line blurb on it tonite. They are in lockstep with CBS, NBC and all the rest.
Our Military under the orders of the president fired that thing to intimidate Asia.
 

beardo

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lol yeah, i laughed out loud when i first saw the new news or explanation.

soon anyone who believes they saw it will be labeled a delusional psychopath in need of help!!!
not yet....give it a few weeks then if you bring it up it'll be delusional and never hapened and it will be called another conspeiracy
 

Big P

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It took another day for the government to complete its investigation. When they did, Pentagon spokesman Col. David Lapan noted,
"With all the information that we have gathered over the last day and a half about this condensation trail off the coast of southern California on Monday night, both within the Department of Defense and other U.S. government agencies, we have no evidence to suggest that this was anything other than a contrail caused by an aircraft. Lapan said the determination was based on a combination of factors such as 'looking at that video and having people determine what the likely cause was…this is how these conditions cause contrails to appear this way, and making sure it wasn't one of our missiles."​
But is this "explanation" real or just a cover-up?
Let's look at the evidence comparing the contrail explanation to the missile theory.
1) According to the Federal Aviation Administration, radar in the area did not reveal any fast-moving unknown targets. A missile would have been picked up on radar, while a jet would not have been flagged as unusual.
2) No trace of the alleged missile has been seen falling into the water off the coast of Los Angeles, nor has the missile or any part of it been recovered; it seems to have simply vanished into the sky. If the contrail was created by a plane, of course, no falling missile would be seen nor found.
3) The object seen in the video moves like a jet, not a rocket. As Michio Kaku, a physics professor at City University of New York noted on Good Morning America, "The trail seems to change direction. Ballistic missiles don't do that. It doesn't accelerate. Ballistic missiles accelerate up to 18,000 miles per hour, this is traveling at a constant velocity." While missiles accelerate greatly during launch, aircraft typically maintain a constant cruising speed once they have reached the desired altitude -- exactly as the videotape shows.
4) There is no record of any missiles being fired at the location and time of the sighting, while there are records of commercial jets in the area at the time. One blogger, Liem Bahneman, has tentatively identified the route and flight number as US Airways Flight 808 from Honolulu, Hawaii, to Phoenix, Arizona.
5) Perhaps most damaging to the missile theory, the only people who saw (and recorded) the mysterious phenomenon were in one television helicopter videotaping the sunset. None of the nearly 4 million people living in Los Angeles noticed the "missile" launch, and pilots flying in the area reported seeing nothing unusual -- and certainly not a missile being launched. This is very strong evidence that the phenomenon was only unusual from one unique perspective; that is, people looking at the same thing from different distances and angles recognized what it was, or didn't think it was strange. This supports the jet theory, and discredits the missile theory.
For the conspiracy theorists who insist that the missile was some sort of secret government test, this explanation collapses under the weight of its own illogic. Why would the government launch a "secret" missile only 35 miles from Los Angeles? It would be obvious to anyone looking in the skies.
Furthermore, there would be no reason for officials to hide or cover up the launch; missiles and satellites are routinely launched from the California coast. All the Pentagon would have to do is issue a statement telling the public that it was a planned launch, and the issue would go away.
Maybe we can't always believe the "official explanation," but when it fits the facts, we should.
 

ganjaluvr

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that's the American government for ya.

you people should check out another "conspiracy".

Ever heard of HARRP?

Should check into it if you haven't. ;)

peace.
 

beardo

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It took another day for the government to complete its investigation. When they did, Pentagon spokesman Col. David Lapan noted,
"With all the information that we have gathered over the last day and a half about this condensation trail off the coast of southern California on Monday night, both within the Department of Defense and other U.S. government agencies, we have no evidence to suggest that this was anything other than a contrail caused by an aircraft. Lapan said the determination was based on a combination of factors such as 'looking at that video and having people determine what the likely cause was…this is how these conditions cause contrails to appear this way, and making sure it wasn't one of our missiles."​
But is this "explanation" real or just a cover-up?
Let's look at the evidence comparing the contrail explanation to the missile theory.
1) According to the Federal Aviation Administration, radar in the area did not reveal any fast-moving unknown targets. A missile would have been picked up on radar, while a jet would not have been flagged as unusual.
2) No trace of the alleged missile has been seen falling into the water off the coast of Los Angeles, nor has the missile or any part of it been recovered; it seems to have simply vanished into the sky. If the contrail was created by a plane, of course, no falling missile would be seen nor found.
3) The object seen in the video moves like a jet, not a rocket. As Michio Kaku, a physics professor at City University of New York noted on Good Morning America, "The trail seems to change direction. Ballistic missiles don't do that. It doesn't accelerate. Ballistic missiles accelerate up to 18,000 miles per hour, this is traveling at a constant velocity." While missiles accelerate greatly during launch, aircraft typically maintain a constant cruising speed once they have reached the desired altitude -- exactly as the videotape shows.
4) There is no record of any missiles being fired at the location and time of the sighting, while there are records of commercial jets in the area at the time. One blogger, Liem Bahneman, has tentatively identified the route and flight number as US Airways Flight 808 from Honolulu, Hawaii, to Phoenix, Arizona.
5) Perhaps most damaging to the missile theory, the only people who saw (and recorded) the mysterious phenomenon were in one television helicopter videotaping the sunset. None of the nearly 4 million people living in Los Angeles noticed the "missile" launch, and pilots flying in the area reported seeing nothing unusual -- and certainly not a missile being launched. This is very strong evidence that the phenomenon was only unusual from one unique perspective; that is, people looking at the same thing from different distances and angles recognized what it was, or didn't think it was strange. This supports the jet theory, and discredits the missile theory.
For the conspiracy theorists who insist that the missile was some sort of secret government test, this explanation collapses under the weight of its own illogic. Why would the government launch a "secret" missile only 35 miles from Los Angeles? It would be obvious to anyone looking in the skies.
Furthermore, there would be no reason for officials to hide or cover up the launch; missiles and satellites are routinely launched from the California coast. All the Pentagon would have to do is issue a statement telling the public that it was a planned launch, and the issue would go away.
Maybe we can't always believe the "official explanation," but when it fits the facts, we should.
Big P-I never thought you would be involved in the cover up,-I'm kidding- I'm not sure what really happened this is the only video I have seen and youre right you would think someone would have gotten video on an Iphone, kind of weird how this story has gotten the coverage it has.
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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so your really felling better knowing we can vaporize everyone ? that = safety?
The only safety in mutual destruction is the knowledge that no body that can hurt you lived, of course you didn't live either but that doesn't seem to matter to some.
 

RavenMochi

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The idea is, if you know nuking someone is going to mean your going to die to, your not going to do it...hence the concept of "mutually assured destruction" As a method for preventing a nuclear strike. Fact is, so far, it really has worked.
 

doc111

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The idea is, if you know nuking someone is going to mean your going to die to, your not going to do it...hence the concept of "mutually assured destruction" As a method for preventing a nuclear strike. Fact is, so far, it really has worked.
With islamic states becoming nuclear the relative comfort provided by MAD is rapidly disappearing. They don't care if they are destroyed because they will all be martyrs with 72 virgins awaiting them in heaven. BTW, I'm not conspiracy theorist, but couldn't they just look at radar or flight records to see if a plane was in fact in the area?:confused:
 

RavenMochi

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Yea...I know, aint that a bitch? They're gonna be pissed when they find out the 72 virgins were pulled from the star trek convention... :p
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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Yea...I know, aint that a bitch? They're gonna be pissed when they find out the 72 virgins were pulled from the star trek convention... :p
With all the wierd ass pocket protector wearing geeks at trekkie conventions, you very well could find 72 virgins.
 

gogrow

confused
25,000 nukes sure don't sound very safe to me, that actually sounds pretty scary.
its over before you know it happened at least.... bout all I can say for it.

I'd really like to know the story on this though. one would think that if it were a show of force as some people say, that there would have been a detonation, though a "safe" one... from what it sounds, it was just launched and then flopped in the ocean like a toddler lobbing a softball.... maybe we were starting some shit and had a malfunction with the missle, causing the ridiculous "we know nothing" approach.
 
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