DST's Vertical Step Grow - Headband and Cali Orange

DST said:

Hey, I heard that it was Kurt who done all Public Enemy's mixing back in the day...anyone else heard that?

Peace, DST

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I couldn't tell ya', but I'll ask Chen. Chen(pronounced Chin) has crazy skills. Pottery, Sculpting, AWESOME DJ! Para gliding Nekkid. That's Chen!

McFunk said:

I couldn't tell ya', but I'll ask Chen. Chen(pronounced Chin) has crazy skills. Pottery, Sculpting, AWESOME DJ! Para gliding Nekkid. That's Chen!

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u should talk your friend into glass blowing.. im sure as artisic as he is, something nice will come from it.

het DST, how are the seedlings?

TrynaGroSumShyt said:

het DST, how are the seedlings?

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Well T, to be honest it's a mixed bag of feelings on these at the moment.

Happy with the Kushlings, was away for a couple of days and since Friday they stcuk their head out to see what's happening in the world:


These are the Cali o and the Headband that are now under the Son-T agro, as I said, not happy, really struggling with the temps from the 600, think I will invest in a cool tube construction of some sort....just not sure yet. I fried them whilst I was away so they haven't grown a bit so I am yacked off with my slordig-ness!!! (lazy/stupid) Not sure if the heat is from hanging the buld vertically or not

They all look a bit yellow from the light as well, although I have seen greener looking plants in my time. But I am sure they will come through okay.

The big pic (I also have another fan blowing across the cupboard)


A mongo HB seedling


A little Cali o


And a little HB - not so mongo-ish


How exciting was that

Okay, I am off to kick the $hit out of my punch bag. Laters,

DST

DST said:

Well T, to be honest it's a mixed bag of feelings on these at the moment.

Happy with the Kushlings, was away for a couple of days and since Friday they stcuk their head out to see what's happening in the world:

These are the Cali o and the Headband that are now under the Son-T agro, as I said, not happy, really struggling with the temps from the 600, think I will invest in a cool tube construction of some sort....just not sure yet. I fried them whilst I was away so they haven't grown a bit so I am yacked off with my slordig-ness!!! (lazy/stupid) Not sure if the heat is from hanging the buld vertically or not

They all look a bit yellow from the light as well, although I have seen greener looking plants in my time. But I am sure they will come through okay.

The big pic (I also have another fan blowing across the cupboard)

A mongo HB seedling

A little Cali o

And a little HB - not so mongo-ish

How exciting was that

Okay, I am off to kick the $hit out of my punch bag. Laters,

DST

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LOL.. dont hit it too hard.. since your looking into a cooltube, you should look into some type of heat extraction(i.e. inline fan, blowers) if you havn't already.

TrynaGroSumShyt said:

LOL.. dont hit it too hard.. since your looking into a cooltube, you should look into some type of heat extraction(i.e. inline fan, blowers) if you havn't already.

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Amazing what happens when you take your aggression out on an inanimate object,
1/ no one hits you back,
2/it gives you time to think!!,
3/ you finish feeling less stressed and angry.
4/ And then you smoke a big fatty which knocks you right oooot!!

Fans - that's what I have been pondering about all day....

So heres the thoughts for the cool tube.

At the moment the cupboard is connected to an extractor that controls the whole house (pic below). I still have a spare port I can use on this extractor which I could connect to the cool tube to effectively take the air directly out of the room and through the system and out of the roof. These systems spew steam out of them in the winter so it is not a big concern that someone will say - ooh, look that guys got steam coming out of his house, he must be growing The Wacky Tobaccy.

or/

Do I get a carbon filter and connect the cool tube through that and blow the warm air into my house to benefit from the heat? Perhaps reducing the need to heat my house while I have a room that produces kilowatt of heats on a daily basis? Has anyone done this before? If they have I would def spend the extra money to save on my energy bills, and would love to hear....so that's my thoughts.

Any thoughts/comments fellow Wacky backy'ers?

Cheers,

DST

As you can see in the pic, I have a connection leading to the wall from the extractor, and I also have a spare port behind that is out of sight.....

DST said:

Amazing what happens when you take your aggression out on an inanimate object,
1/ no one hits you back,
2/it gives you time to think!!,
3/ you finish feeling less stressed and angry.
4/ And then you smoke a big fatty which knocks you right oooot!!

Fans - that's what I have been pondering about all day....

So heres the thoughts for the cool tube.

At the moment the cupboard is connected to an extractor that controls the whole house (pic below). I still have a spare port I can use on this extractor which I could connect to the cool tube to effectively take the air directly out of the room and through the system and out of the roof. These systems spew steam out of them in the winter so it is not a big concern that someone will say - ooh, look that guys got steam coming out of his house, he must be growing The Wacky Tobaccy.

or/

Do I get a carbon filter and connect the cool tube through that and blow the warm air into my house to benefit from the heat? Perhaps reducing the need to heat my house while I have a room that produces kilowatt of heats on a daily basis? Has anyone done this before? If they have I would def spend the extra money to save on my energy bills, and would love to hear....so that's my thoughts.

Any thoughts/comments fellow Wacky backy'ers?

Cheers,

DST

As you can see in the pic, I have a connection leading to the wall from the extractor, and I also have a spare port behind that is out of sight.....

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im not too experienced in that dept., but it sounds about right. where would the intake air be coming from?

TrynaGroSumShyt said:

im not too experienced in that dept., but it sounds about right. where would the intake air be coming from?

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In the pic there is an open port. that extractor is running constantly and sucks in air from the room that it is in. The grow cupboard/corner is in that room as well. The door to the room has a natural gap at the bottom and as such air is sucked in through that gap (from outside). So I would be using the air from the room (in my head at the moment) to ventilate, which is what I do at the moment.)

lol.. i kinda get it, but its still a little complicated...

maybe this could be of some help http://www.jasons-indoor-guide-to-organic-and-hydroponics-gardening.com/exhaust-fan-setup.html

TrynaGroSumShyt said:

lol.. i kinda get it, but its still a little complicated...

maybe this could be of some help http://www.jasons-indoor-guide-to-organic-and-hydroponics-gardening.com/exhaust-fan-setup.html

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cheers for the link T. Cool little diagrams, nice and easy to understand. I will put up a diagram of mine tomorrow when I have finished putting it together. Funnily enough I will use two extractors/exhausts, but the main one I was planning on having underneath the light...anyway, we shall see....

today I picked up a couple of bits and bobs. This included the following:

Cool Tube - with fitting - 25 euro
6m of vent ducting (need more) 13 euro (got half of it for free, women made a mistake at the checkout)
Odds and ends - plugs, clips, metal duct connector, plastic ties around 17 euro(that don't fit - back at me for the ducting - they were the ties that hung next to the ducting)
And a ruck inline fan, 125ml. - 97 euro

Will put a plan up tomorrow and hopefully some more updates.

Here's the cool tube


And this is the goodies in full


I got the first piece of ducting up and connected to the main extractor, that is then connected through a hole into the grow space, the metal duct connector has been put through the hole to join the ducting on either side.

so that's it so far. Back to thinking more about the design.

DST

Woo Hooo! New stuff!
Movin' right along aren't ya', DST?!

This is gonna' be so cool.

McFunk

i see you got a good price on the cooltube... i know your ready to get things craccin now, huh?

Hey guys, trying to get things shifting indeed. Been testing out the in line fan tonight and it brings in a nice stream of air. I am still pondering about putting the in-line fan at the bottom or the top of the light, I really want to go for bottom, although top wouldn't be impossible. The main extractor that the ducting out is connected to runs gently all the time. What I want to avoid (since this extractor also serves other purposes in my house) is not to have a strong fan blowing hot air directly into it. So it would be: outducting - innline fan - ducting - light - ducting - extractor. Does any one think this will be okay? or not?

Ho hum, ponder ponder...need more ducting whatever I do..

Peace DST

oh, and managing to keep temps below 30, around 27-29 at plant height (which is not to high)

Heres something I think is cool.....some awesome albums - London Calling!!!
http://blog.albumartexchange.com/2009/10/british-to-release-famous-album-cover-postage-stamps.html

Now onto the grow room

Well after that massive response regarding my air circulation, I thought, bugger it, I'll just go ahead and buy myself another inline fan (just a small one for the top. So everything is in, the cool tube seems okay, although it has only been running a short while. I turend off the lamp earlier so the girls had a cloudy afternoon with one CFL shining down on them


So first I put the small in line fan in, that connected to the metal joint that I had put in last night. This is the outside of the grow room


This is the inside


Then I connected that to the airco/extractor that is pictured in the previous page. The duct on the left takes air out of the grow cupboard,, the new duct on the right is for the lamp.



The main door into the outhouse has a gap between the floor and the bottom of the door to let natural airflow (as explained before) So the in ducting is secured right next to the fresh air inlet under the door (the air coming in here is quite chilly so should be okay)


Then this was attached to the inline fan that I got yesterday, and then that is connected to the bottom of the cool tube. There is a bit of give so I can always raise the lamp tower.


And finally after much sweat and dropping of fiddly little screws and washers all over the fekkin shop, I managed to rig everything up (word of advise if you are new to this - don't put on plugs until you got everything wired through - plugs don't always fit through small holes

Oh sunshine you are so good to me

And for anyone who still can't imagine it.....no names here is a litttle spacky drawing I put together, the only thing I have added, is that where it say's "air out", there is now the new small inline fan in place. It's a 16w bathroom fan that covers an area of 3.0m X 2.5m X 1.85m. As I said before, it's in addition to the main extractorand the other inline fan. Lets see if this works, I can always change it.....would be a mare though.

Hey, DST.
I tried to wrap my boulder around your challenge with the "extractor" but cot confused.(..it's me, not your description.)

So, the extractor is part of your house originally, to force air out? Like a 'whole-house-fan'? I've not seen anything like it so I'm not clear how much it extracts and from where and what cfm.

Just a quick observation in my limited small area experience... Looks like some of your bends could be avoided and/or straightened out. When my outside temps were 78+ I had 2 extra 40*-45* bends and my inside temps were nearly always 10*-12* warmer. All I did was shorten one 4"flex(gave it less bend in 2 areas.) and my temps are always 2*-6* warmer.
Just thought I'd throw that out there, bud.

LOVE the cooltube, amigo!
LOVE
McFunk

LMAO at the plants in the drawing.....

DST said:

And for anyone who still can't imagine it.....no names

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Ohhh!!! *SNAP*

Got it!

I would "hang" your blower at the wall so the only time it pushes would be through the wall, tube and extractor if you still need more cfm.

Thanks for "drawin' a bruther a picture!

McFunk said:

Hey, DST.
I tried to wrap my boulder around your challenge with the "extractor" but cot confused.(..it's me, not your description.)

So, the extractor is part of your house originally, to force air out? Like a 'whole-house-fan'? I've not seen anything like it so I'm not clear how much it extracts and from where and what cfm.

Just a quick observation in my limited small area experience... Looks like some of your bends could be avoided and/or straightened out. When my outside temps were 78+ I had 2 extra 40*-45* bends and my inside temps were nearly always 10*-12* warmer. All I did was shorten one 4"flex(gave it less bend in 2 areas.) and my temps are always 2*-6* warmer.
Just thought I'd throw that out there, bud.

LOVE the cooltube, amigo!
LOVE
McFunk

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I would agree, I am not whole heartidly happy with the connection from the bottom of the cool tube to the fan under the steps(I'll maybe take it round the other way)

Yeh, the Extractor is for the whole house. When you go into the toilet it fires up with a time switch. I also have a control in my kitchen area (my apartment is fairly open plan) with 3 speeds. At top speed the ducting is giving it big licks...but not sure of cfm! But it has worked for the last 3 grows.

I can hold my hand over the cool tube now without to much problem. Don't think I would like to stand with it for 12 hours like that But I shall monitor (the temps already dropped 2celcius and I have dropped the fan right into the middle so some-ting is workin!


Muchas gracias McFunk, and thanks for the tip!

Off to my wine course - will be merry when I return later

DST

DST said:

And for anyone who still can't imagine it.....no names here is a litttle spacky drawing I put together, the only thing I have added, is that where it say's "air out", there is now the new small inline fan in place. It's a 16w bathroom fan that covers an area of 3.0m X 2.5m X 1.85m. As I said before, it's in addition to the main extractorand the other inline fan. Lets see if this works, I can always change it.....would be a mare though.

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damn those plants look killer, what strain?

but really, your coming along very fast. u should set up and on very soon.