Drowning Plant Prior To Harvest
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endogarden
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No problem dude, hope I helped
Honkeycorn
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Hi all,
I just skimmed through this thread and was wondering if there is any part of this process that could be applied to soil grows aswell?
Correct me if im wrong, but it sounds like the trick is to drown the root system in water only for +/- 10 days. To make the plant oxygen starved to get these better results we crave through the decarbolization process?
Could you use this process with soil? Basically just doing a really good flush period?
Like 2L`s a day for a 5gal bucket for a week or two? Really keeping the soil wet and drowning the roots for the duration?
I just skimmed through this thread and was wondering if there is any part of this process that could be applied to soil grows aswell?
Correct me if im wrong, but it sounds like the trick is to drown the root system in water only for +/- 10 days. To make the plant oxygen starved to get these better results we crave through the decarbolization process?
Could you use this process with soil? Basically just doing a really good flush period?
Like 2L`s a day for a 5gal bucket for a week or two? Really keeping the soil wet and drowning the roots for the duration?
All I Do Iz Grow N Smoke
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never drown your plants. lol
Skyhigh88
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Are you dumb or just didnt read the thread?????
endogarden
New Member
I drowned after they were "ready" in my eyes, but I was mistaken, and when the drown took 14 days, they matured to a point I would've missed out on if I had chopped them regularly. I realized have been harvesting too early on all of my crops, I feel this is an unfortunate trend among many growers, caused by poor information (50% amber bs), and an untrained eye for ripeness. I got a lot of good info from https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/210501-zeuss-take-harvesting.html
They went from most looking like this:
, to looking like (WARNING: These images brought to you by Snow Storm Ultra, [the most awesome liquid I have ever bought] BEWARE the SNOWMAN, he could be hiding in any nug, but as it is so snowy, he is completely invisible! But in all seriousness, that shit is so good, I'm getting a SSU tattoo on my face. And I'm definitely getting some Purple Max since I found the Grapefruit turns purply, and now I know the company is as legit as it comes, I've used Bushmaster and SSU, both are amazingly effective, so I assume Purple Max is going to be awesome as well.)
this:
,and this (behold the Snowman!):
I felt like I had been picking green tomatoes all this time. But now that I am prepared with knowledge and experience, I am going to order a shit ton of 3.5gal buckets and lids to make individual drowning chambers for each plant, instead of drowning them in an open tray, as the water was FUCKING DISGUSTING by the time 14 days roll by and they were chopped. I had a 1 man bleach party for like 3 days. Things are finally sanitary again, and my new crop of girls are in Week 8 of Veg and looking great, I've been foliar Bushmastering the hell out of them for a week, like once every 2 or 3 days.
Feelinit
Active Member
Wow great buds, and thx for the great post. I wondered if they would continue to mature after the drowning.
Well mine are pretty much done, and I'm going to start the drown this weekend.
I have not flushed at all either.... Hope this is ok
I may be over-ripe by the time they stop wicking.
I too am a fan of the Zeus post, and have read it a few times.
Well mine are pretty much done, and I'm going to start the drown this weekend.
I have not flushed at all either.... Hope this is ok
I may be over-ripe by the time they stop wicking.
I too am a fan of the Zeus post, and have read it a few times.
endogarden
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I didn't flush before drowning, and the ppm of the water was around 500ppm for the first 4 days or so, until enough water disappeared (still not sure where exactly, my guess is: plants drank some, dehumidifier ate some, light/heat [80-87F] evaporated some) that when I topped up my trays the ppm dropped below 100, then the plants were drinking plain RO water with minor amounts of nutes left in it, essentially flushing.
Near the end, I became skeptical that the roots were still getting oxygen, and it was suggested that maybe they were getting it from the fresh RO water when I topped up the trays each day. So, I used HELLA propane boiling large soup pot after soup pot of water to remove the O2 and topped up the trays over the course of a few hours (Haven't got the gas bill yet, should be interesting).
I am still not clear on what an over ripe plant looks like, I had some further along than others at chop @ Week 10.5, some turned dark purple from eating all the Nitrogen, some stayed mostly green, some a purple yellow fan leaf gradient, some even had pink tips and streaks in the sugar leaves. I love them all, but would like to see some pics of an over ripe plant (alive & wet, and cut & dried) so that I can determine which is most ideal of the various stages I had.
As far as lids, check this out, it's the best deal I've found:
3.5gal Buckets (they have other sizes if you need as well) http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?sku=1934&catid=752
Universal Lids for 3.5, 5, and 6 gal Buckets http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?sku=2399&catid=686
The smell was unbeliveably bad, I pray it is something that went wrong with my particular setup, and that this doesn't happen to you or anyone else, it was sooooo foul. That's why I MUST get buckets to contain it, because the magic cure is so worth it, I will always drown from now on. Bud was smokable immediately after drying for 5-6 days in 64-75F and 40-50%RH in SJ Dark Dryer Tent with a growbox hanging layered drying rack inside and an 8" duct fan with a homemade "pillow" fish carbon filter and with the bottom part of the tent partially unzipped and the intake of a 30pt dehumidifier stuck in against the partially open flap. I had all 6 layers packed to the brim and branches hanging on the sides, with more to be cut down after they matured a slight bit more in their newly spacious lighted areas (since I had removed the larger buds above them; I cut branches at a time, not the whole plant).
<---------------Super #1 Fan of Snow Storm Ultra & Drowning + Instant delicious smooth crystal filled smoke
Well back to more trimming.
Near the end, I became skeptical that the roots were still getting oxygen, and it was suggested that maybe they were getting it from the fresh RO water when I topped up the trays each day. So, I used HELLA propane boiling large soup pot after soup pot of water to remove the O2 and topped up the trays over the course of a few hours (Haven't got the gas bill yet, should be interesting).
I am still not clear on what an over ripe plant looks like, I had some further along than others at chop @ Week 10.5, some turned dark purple from eating all the Nitrogen, some stayed mostly green, some a purple yellow fan leaf gradient, some even had pink tips and streaks in the sugar leaves. I love them all, but would like to see some pics of an over ripe plant (alive & wet, and cut & dried) so that I can determine which is most ideal of the various stages I had.
As far as lids, check this out, it's the best deal I've found:
3.5gal Buckets (they have other sizes if you need as well) http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?sku=1934&catid=752
Universal Lids for 3.5, 5, and 6 gal Buckets http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?sku=2399&catid=686
The smell was unbeliveably bad, I pray it is something that went wrong with my particular setup, and that this doesn't happen to you or anyone else, it was sooooo foul. That's why I MUST get buckets to contain it, because the magic cure is so worth it, I will always drown from now on. Bud was smokable immediately after drying for 5-6 days in 64-75F and 40-50%RH in SJ Dark Dryer Tent with a growbox hanging layered drying rack inside and an 8" duct fan with a homemade "pillow" fish carbon filter and with the bottom part of the tent partially unzipped and the intake of a 30pt dehumidifier stuck in against the partially open flap. I had all 6 layers packed to the brim and branches hanging on the sides, with more to be cut down after they matured a slight bit more in their newly spacious lighted areas (since I had removed the larger buds above them; I cut branches at a time, not the whole plant).
<---------------Super #1 Fan of Snow Storm Ultra & Drowning + Instant delicious smooth crystal filled smoke
Well back to more trimming.
Feelinit
Active Member
Good deal, sounds like it worked like a charm.
Your hardcore about boiling the top off water. No oxygen in there for sure.
Well I decided to start the drowning. I use ebb and flow but in multiflow buckets. Good thing I only have 4 girls. The buckets are 2.5gal, I went to home cheapo and got 5 gal buckets, and they are currently drowning.
Im not sure exactly what over-ripe looks like either, hopefully I wont find out.
I saw the HELLA and immediately thought of the bay area where I grew up. Too funny.
This is my second harvest 1st was 10 years ago. First time in hydro. My yields suffered because of root aphids, after this chop my flower room will soon be free of those fuckers.
My plants REAK soooo good too RP Sour Cush. Sooo much resin!!!!!!
Cant wait to smoke shit I grew!!!!!!
Your hardcore about boiling the top off water. No oxygen in there for sure.
Well I decided to start the drowning. I use ebb and flow but in multiflow buckets. Good thing I only have 4 girls. The buckets are 2.5gal, I went to home cheapo and got 5 gal buckets, and they are currently drowning.
Im not sure exactly what over-ripe looks like either, hopefully I wont find out.
I saw the HELLA and immediately thought of the bay area where I grew up. Too funny.
This is my second harvest 1st was 10 years ago. First time in hydro. My yields suffered because of root aphids, after this chop my flower room will soon be free of those fuckers.
My plants REAK soooo good too RP Sour Cush. Sooo much resin!!!!!!
Cant wait to smoke shit I grew!!!!!!
endogarden
New Member
It was Riddlem3's idea/suggestion.
They have lids for those buckets for like $1-2, you can cut a slit down the middle with a razor knife, and make a hole as big as your stalk, then bend and slide the lid on around the stalk and seal it.
Maybe some helpful someone will post a pic for us.
What cracks me up is when I heard some highschool kids saying "hecka" on the bus one time.
Damn that's quite a time gap, welcome back. And eww root aphids, I had a small infestation on my clones, I got rid of them by running each clone under water in the bathtub and rinsing out the tray, until all the critters went down the drain. They must suck at reproducing, because that was the last I saw of them (knock wood).
Mmmmmmm kush sooooo good. Maybe in CA we could have a medicine swap. These must exist somewhere, where everyone comes, displays their recommendation for entrance, and then can trade medicine with other patients for a few hours. I just can't imagine the joy of trading amazing homegrown gram for gram and collecting like 10-25 types, it would really be amazing. Maybe everyone's still too sketched out, though I've been to cannabis trade shows and such where there was a large attendance and people smoked on premises in designated areas. Though the undercover element was present and obvious (to me), they didn't overtly do anything malicious (that I'm aware of) and everyone had a good time and learned.
Feelinit
Active Member
Well day 9 I chopped seemed to have stopped wicking.
But Endo straight up dude that water stank!!!! I have a a serious weak stomach for this shit smell. I had to run out of the bathroom many times as the smell was killing me. The tub is where it all where the shit water got 86'd.
I clipped a bud and quick dried it and I got mad ripped. It's already dank even after a quick dry.
Can't wait for the dry, and jarring to go down.
So stoked that I got fucked up off of herb I grew!!!!!!!!!
I'm hoping that shit water is ok, the bud smoked great, but that water is RANK!
To bad riddleme left mad props to him for this method.
Peace
But Endo straight up dude that water stank!!!! I have a a serious weak stomach for this shit smell. I had to run out of the bathroom many times as the smell was killing me. The tub is where it all where the shit water got 86'd.
I clipped a bud and quick dried it and I got mad ripped. It's already dank even after a quick dry.
Can't wait for the dry, and jarring to go down.
So stoked that I got fucked up off of herb I grew!!!!!!!!!
I'm hoping that shit water is ok, the bud smoked great, but that water is RANK!
To bad riddleme left mad props to him for this method.
Peace
Okay let me get this all straight...
Say its getting closet to harvest, say two weeks until harvest, I want to cure the plants before cutting.
I take the Snow, spices, or w/e. Mix with my water (should it be distilled?). I flood the plants in the soil over and over, or place the bucket in a larger bucket with a lid and let it sit for two weeks maybe more?
would changing the water out say every two days help eliminate the terrible smell? Once this is complete, I can directly cut the plant down and trim wet.
any additions subtractions to these statements/questions would be helpful with rep!
Say its getting closet to harvest, say two weeks until harvest, I want to cure the plants before cutting.
I take the Snow, spices, or w/e. Mix with my water (should it be distilled?). I flood the plants in the soil over and over, or place the bucket in a larger bucket with a lid and let it sit for two weeks maybe more?
would changing the water out say every two days help eliminate the terrible smell? Once this is complete, I can directly cut the plant down and trim wet.
any additions subtractions to these statements/questions would be helpful with rep!
cocobitzz
Well-Known Member
Convenient this was posted up. I did a road trip to Trinity Center last summer and picked this tip up. I tried a side by side, flooding one plant and flushing the other like normal. The uncured smoke of the flooded/drowned plant is exceptionally sweet, it almost coats the throat with a sugary layer, while the flushed plant is mediocre smoke, as in kind of harsh and tasteless.
This isn't the kind of thing you can't post pictures to prove, but I know my smoke, and a side by side of clones proved that flooded weed for 1-2 weeks before hand is EXCEPTIONALLY BETTER OFF THE BAT. Can't wait to see how a 1/2 zed of this cures up.
This isn't the kind of thing you can't post pictures to prove, but I know my smoke, and a side by side of clones proved that flooded weed for 1-2 weeks before hand is EXCEPTIONALLY BETTER OFF THE BAT. Can't wait to see how a 1/2 zed of this cures up.
ssj4jonathan
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Brimi left this thread hanging, so thanks (endogarden) for reviving and finishing this cliff hanger thread. Anyways, those before and after pictures look great! The 2 weeks of extra 12/12 combined with drowning made all the difference. IMHO, I'd rather have over ripened purple buds, with all building blocks depleted, than green buds that were prematurely chopped. One quick question: Is it too risky to drown a soil container for 2 weeks? Even if you change out the water every so often with freshly boiled water?
I posted a thread asking how long does it take before suffocation set in but no one knew or cared to comment. This thread pretty much answered all my questions. Great tip guys, will commit this idea to the long term memory and put it to use one day...
I posted a thread asking how long does it take before suffocation set in but no one knew or cared to comment. This thread pretty much answered all my questions. Great tip guys, will commit this idea to the long term memory and put it to use one day...