Gang, isn't it about time that everyone packs up their stuff and goes homes and let this thread die?
Think about it a moment. You are talking about a unicorn strain, something that is almost mythical. There is almost nothing about it at any point in time that can be proven to be true.
The actual origin of the strain is questionable and not able to be proven. Even among some older breeders who allegedly had G13 early some tell different stories. The popular belief is that it was created in a U.S. Government research facility. That is allegedly verifiable by Government records but then alleged official government records at one time said the North Vietnamese attacked U.S. Naval forces at The Gulf of Tonkin, so you know how much credibility can be placed in official government records. They only say what someone wants people to believe. Some old breeders, and others, have said that it came from a bust and when the pot was tested it was so potent that it was then sent to the research facility for research and testing. The story of how much was removed from the facility vary. There is no way of knowing how many cuts were made and who all they went to. There is no way of knowing who retained the strain in it's pure form and who made crosses and then either did away with the original or by chance it died. There is no way of knowing my many originals just died or how many might have been taken in busts. Some of the airborne cuts that were claimed to be pure but were given additional titles or names along with G13 have been claimed by some old breeders to never have been pure, and others and other people have claimed they were still pure.
As far as anyone can supposedly prove the first true breeder to possess G13 was Neville, but what he sold was a hybrid since he only had a female from a clone. Anything that anyone made using his hybrid was even farther away from being the real deal G13. Neville made the strain famous in the 80's from his original "Seedbank." and Neville is said to have worked with Sensi seeds around the early 90s and the original G13 mother was lost. So the only variety's left that are traceable to the G13 that is responsible for the legend picking up steam are the subsequent hybrids he released to the public.
But there is no way of knowing who else may or may not have had a clone and what they did or did not do with it and if it remained pure or not.
There is no way to prove almost anything about the strain other than what some of the hybrids that were made from it were. Anything else is guesswork and speculation and belief and opinion and myth and urban legend and nothing more.
Possibly the Dr. did manage to find a pure G13 plant to get a cutting from. Possibly the person he got it from has a hybrid but totally believes it to be pure and convinced the Dr. that it is pure and the Dr. believes it is pure so he is not lying or misrepresenting the strain. He's just in error about it. Possibly the Dr. knew it was a hybrid that even being a hybrid has been called pure G13 but knowing that it is as close as anyone will ever come to the original he figured why not let people enjoy the closest they will ever get to true G13 and just release it as the real deal? It is not as if someone else will be releasing the Real McCoy and prove him to be wrong. Maybe there are a dozen or two dozen other possibly ways to explain things.
But the point is that no amount of discussion or arguing over this will ever result in a singular accepted answer, a resolution that all or even most will agree on or any one story or claim that a majority of people will ever accept as most likely being accurate. Even if the Dr. were to take a lie detector test while on video and passed there would be a large enough percentage of people who would claim he only passed because he believes it to be true G13 so his answer showed he was being truthful but he was fooled about it being true G13 in the first place, or some might go so far as to claim him to be a pathological liar and able to beat the machine.
The only way this exchange would have a chance of ending would be if the Dr. came out and said his G13 is not the true G13 and he knew it all along, which even if that is the case everyone knows he would never admit to it. But even then there could be some Dr. lovers who would likely say that he only said it because he thought he was getting a hybrid but he was wrong about that and he does have the real deal G13.
There can never be an ending to this thread unless it is closed unless everyone realizes that no matter what they say or find that someone else has said or the Dr. says there is no way under the sun to prove any of it too be true and everyone just decides the only thing that matters is what each individual believes and each person formulates their own opinion, and keeps it to themselves, and either purchases Dr. Greenthumbs G13 or does not purchase Dr. Greenthumbs G13 and just let this exchange end.
It has long since degenerated into a F-you, no, F-you, no, F-you double deep and double hard with AIDS on top exchange, so why continue it? Just because someone wants to get the last F-you in? Gee, what an incredible victory that would be for someone. It would prove they were right all along, NOT!
It is time for people to accept that neither belief, real or not real, can or will ever be able to be proven and it is time to stop exchanging F-you's over something that will forever remain a mystery. It has to be that or the thread closed because things have not really remained topical and they have gone way past the bounds of acceptability and there is not now and there never will be a light at the end of the tunnel.
Move on people. You are wasting your time and you are wasting the time of others, almost everyone involved is making themselves look really bad, bandwidth is being wasted and no one, and I do mean NO ONE will ever win.
