DoubleD's what to believe?

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fletchman

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DoubleD is a bullshit con artist, his so-called MPB buckets were runnin well before he made his claim. I ? everything the guy says.
 
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chemdawg

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Reprint; dd started his following, claiming that he could show farmers how to grow trees that yield 4lbs. Many of us jumped on the "mpb" bandwagon, and spent tens of thousands on rdwc gear, and listened to his every word about how to get these monster trees with dd's magical system. So, after many failed crops, by many veteran, expert growers, most all left the mpb, dwc system thinking that we just don't have the magic touch. But, after talking with many of us who've tried the system, it turns out that the only reason dd got the yield he claimed, WAS BECAUSE OF THE G13 CUT HE HAS. Hell, he disappeared from his own forum for over 6 months because he couldn't explain why after over 2 years with this system, he was the only one who could get anything close to 4lbs. UNTIL HE STARTED OFFERING THOSE GENETICS TO APPEASE THE PISSED, AND HE OFFERED IT TO ME. I myself, spent well over 30k on grow gear to accomodate dd's intructions. According to dd, because of his following and SUPPOSED results, (I know many master growers who never got over 2lbs per tree, after many rounds trying), he got a 400k contract with a nute company to reproduce his rdwc, mpb (med patient bucket) system. The gentleman disappeared from the boards because he was getting called out on system issues and other moo poo that caused people to have crops fail. After he got the 400k, he was gone. He has since returned, but on a very limited basis, and doesn't reply much to posts. In fact, if you ask the wrong question about that system, you'll get banned from that forum. I've seen it happen to many good farmers who were just asking for more detail, so they wouldn't lose another round. I lost tens of thousands because of dd's moo poo, and he's a liar. Also, I've talked with respected, veteran farmers who claim that dd never developed that system, he just borrowed others' idea's. I know 4 others personally who'll concur. THE ONLY REASON HE HAS A REPUTATION IS BECAUSE OF THE G13 HE HAS, NOT THE DWC SYSTEM HE DEVELOPED (STOLE). I don't think he wanted anyone to know that though, or his nute company deal would go south, make sense? The most respected growers around North America know of dd and his moo poo. If you don't know this, you're showing your donkey. dd still gets new followers because they read 3 year old posts about growing 4lb trees, and get yield fever. Watch out though, because many of his followers go deaf and dumb once they start buying his BS. I know, I was one of 'em. Also, I get better yields now that I'm not using that system. DD is responsible for many growers wasting thousands on equipment, lost rounds, hopeful to get these supposed results, when it wasn't even possible WITHOUT that strain. Ego run wild, it's not the system. If you choose to bash Doc and support dd, you've bet on the wrong horse, and are showing what you DON'T know. So, it would be wise not to talk about either Doc or DD until you know them. I know them both, and have done biz with them both. Doc's the real deal.
 
bajafox

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chemdawg said:
Reprint; dd started his following, claiming that he could show farmers how to grow trees that yield 4lbs. Many of us jumped on the "mpb" bandwagon, and spent tens of thousands on rdwc gear, and listened to his every word about how to get these monster trees with dd's magical system. So, after many failed crops, by many veteran, expert growers, most all left the mpb, dwc system thinking that we just don't have the magic touch. But, after talking with many of us who've tried the system, it turns out that the only reason dd got the yield he claimed, WAS BECAUSE OF THE G13 CUT HE HAS. Hell, he disappeared from his own forum for over 6 months because he couldn't explain why after over 2 years with this system, he was the only one who could get anything close to 4lbs. UNTIL HE STARTED OFFERING THOSE GENETICS TO APPEASE THE PISSED, AND HE OFFERED IT TO ME. I myself, spent well over 30k on grow gear to accomodate dd's intructions. According to dd, because of his following and SUPPOSED results, (I know many master growers who never got over 2lbs per tree, after many rounds trying), he got a 400k contract with a nute company to reproduce his rdwc, mpb (med patient bucket) system. The gentleman disappeared from the boards because he was getting called out on system issues and other moo poo that caused people to have crops fail. After he got the 400k, he was gone. He has since returned, but on a very limited basis, and doesn't reply much to posts. In fact, if you ask the wrong question about that system, you'll get banned from that forum. I've seen it happen to many good farmers who were just asking for more detail, so they wouldn't lose another round. I lost tens of thousands because of dd's moo poo, and he's a liar. Also, I've talked with respected, veteran farmers who claim that dd never developed that system, he just borrowed others' idea's. I know 4 others personally who'll concur. THE ONLY REASON HE HAS A REPUTATION IS BECAUSE OF THE G13 HE HAS, NOT THE DWC SYSTEM HE DEVELOPED (STOLE). I don't think he wanted anyone to know that though, or his nute company deal would go south, make sense? The most respected growers around North America know of dd and his moo poo. If you don't know this, you're showing your donkey. dd still gets new followers because they read 3 year old posts about growing 4lb trees, and get yield fever. Watch out though, because many of his followers go deaf and dumb once they start buying his BS. I know, I was one of 'em. Also, I get better yields now that I'm not using that system. DD is responsible for many growers wasting thousands on equipment, lost rounds, hopeful to get these supposed results, when it wasn't even possible WITHOUT that strain. Ego run wild, it's not the system. If you choose to bash Doc and support dd, you've bet on the wrong horse, and are showing what you DON'T know. So, it would be wise not to talk about either Doc or DD until you know them. I know them both, and have done biz with them both. Doc's the real deal.
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Reprint: And you accepted right???
 
glooberry

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I dont know what to believe anymore!!!!! Stonedmetal.. If DD is posting on a board somewhere (supposedly he has one) and hes got pictures of a 4lb grow (using g13) cant we just get him to post up some "fuck-you-heres the real-deal" pics? I HAVE to see his cut..... not want to, HAVE TO! I literally refuse to die until I see it. Idk if hes actually ever sold any clones or not so far its heresay but not impossible. but I feel like if this is a big enough deal to reach through multiple boards and reach BOTH Dr.GT and DD, then DD (who for sure has the clone) should be able to clear this up with literally ONE picture. so #1) how hard is this guy to get ahold of? and #2) Is RIU big enough (or maybe well known is better) for DD to come on and settle this out once and for all? +rep SMH1 for teaching me a bit more about G13. And now i wont rest till i know the TRUTH!
 
stonedmetalhead1

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bajafox

bajafox

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OGMan said:
No, DDs selling clones for $25,000 and you can get the same thing from Greenthumb for $200 lol :dunce:
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If you bothered to read you would have seen that DD never sold a cut to anyone, this makes your post completely obsolete.
 
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Biggybuds

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chemdawg said:
Reprint; dd started his following, claiming that he could show farmers how to grow trees that yield 4lbs. Many of us jumped on the "mpb" bandwagon, and spent tens of thousands on rdwc gear, and listened to his every word about how to get these monster trees with dd's magical system. So, after many failed crops, by many veteran, expert growers, most all left the mpb, dwc system thinking that we just don't have the magic touch. But, after talking with many of us who've tried the system, it turns out that the only reason dd got the yield he claimed, WAS BECAUSE OF THE G13 CUT HE HAS. Hell, he disappeared from his own forum for over 6 months because he couldn't explain why after over 2 years with this system, he was the only one who could get anything close to 4lbs. UNTIL HE STARTED OFFERING THOSE GENETICS TO APPEASE THE PISSED, AND HE OFFERED IT TO ME. I myself, spent well over 30k on grow gear to accomodate dd's intructions. According to dd, because of his following and SUPPOSED results, (I know many master growers who never got over 2lbs per tree, after many rounds trying), he got a 400k contract with a nute company to reproduce his rdwc, mpb (med patient bucket) system. The gentleman disappeared from the boards because he was getting called out on system issues and other moo poo that caused people to have crops fail. After he got the 400k, he was gone. He has since returned, but on a very limited basis, and doesn't reply much to posts. In fact, if you ask the wrong question about that system, you'll get banned from that forum. I've seen it happen to many good farmers who were just asking for more detail, so they wouldn't lose another round. I lost tens of thousands because of dd's moo poo, and he's a liar. Also, I've talked with respected, veteran farmers who claim that dd never developed that system, he just borrowed others' idea's. I know 4 others personally who'll concur. THE ONLY REASON HE HAS A REPUTATION IS BECAUSE OF THE G13 HE HAS, NOT THE DWC SYSTEM HE DEVELOPED (STOLE). I don't think he wanted anyone to know that though, or his nute company deal would go south, make sense? The most respected growers around North America know of dd and his moo poo. If you don't know this, you're showing your donkey. dd still gets new followers because they read 3 year old posts about growing 4lb trees, and get yield fever. Watch out though, because many of his followers go deaf and dumb once they start buying his BS. I know, I was one of 'em. Also, I get better yields now that I'm not using that system. DD is responsible for many growers wasting thousands on equipment, lost rounds, hopeful to get these supposed results, when it wasn't even possible WITHOUT that strain. Ego run wild, it's not the system. If you choose to bash Doc and support dd, you've bet on the wrong horse, and are showing what you DON'T know. So, it would be wise not to talk about either Doc or DD until you know them. I know them both, and have done biz with them both. Doc's the real deal.
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...Double D = lying scum
 
glooberry

glooberry

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(from THCfarmer)
Originally Posted by theherbalizor
Yes, I believe this G13 came from Neville OH.

Doubleds, you easy get the award for best grow room / thread of 2008 IMO.


thanks for the kudos guys, much appreciated !!

Yes its nevilles cut, i have spent 1000's over the years safehousing her but was worth every cent.

on another note, CHIMERA hooked me up with the makers of " stamen it " and i have a 2oz bottle in transit.
There will be some female seed available in about 6 months !!
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Woah! DD said in those comments (back in august of '08 ) that he was gonna start selling the true g13 seeds from his plants. wtf? uhh did he ever sell them???? if so thats whats up! I cant imagine that in this day of Cannabis culture, that anyone holding the "holy grail" of cannabis. (And talking about selling the seeds) wouldnt just reintroduce the strain (the real one) into the wide world of growing... isnt that what neville would have done? I certainly think so. I mean sure its his baby but im tallking about something bigger than the mentalitly "its mine and if im not the only one who has it, it isnt special". when it comes to growing, you HAVE to give DD some huge props. but comeon man, what about you bud-brothers all over the world?
 
stonedmetalhead1

stonedmetalhead1

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I don't think Neville would have. He is completely against feminized seeds. Also, I never saw any seeds from DD on the Farm and I was on there pretty regularly.
 
Hotsause

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stonedmetalhead1 said:
Seeing as the source of the supposed genetics is saying it isn't so I'm pretty sure it confirms that the Doc is full of shit.

Just wait until the Doc does or doesn't pull DD's name from his description. If he does DD was telling the truth and if he doesn't DD will start posting all over the place about how Greedthumb is full of it.
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No if he does its because DD is complaining like a bitch IT IS POSSIBLE TO GET A BAGSEED AND TURN IT INTO A MOTHER or is DD the only one that smokes g13 as well? Doc said he got the cut from nievell or something like that. This whole arguing back and fowarth is stupid. IF YOU DONT WANT THE SEEDS DONT BUY THEM. GO invest your 25k on a clone. Rather then argue about G13 id rather go find Asian Fantasy and smoke some of that legendary weed
 
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