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http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/55cb5b80e4b0f73b20bb3f02

Why we shouldn't be relying on polls so heavily right now.
Should we rely on another under cover Democrat operative like Romney? Sink the final two debates, and then concede the election with a month left to go? The GOP would love that. I'm sure they can't wait to work with Hillary. The last person Republicans want to deal with is a conservative president
 

Wavels

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This is an excerpt from an interview The Donald did with GQ...
very interesting.
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http://www.gq.com/story/what-trump-hates-about-obama


An important part of what you’re saying all the time is “I’m smart.” How smart are you?
I’m very smart.

How do you know?
Because my life has proven that I’m smart. I mean, I’ve had a life of success and I’ve had a life of victory. You know, I’ve had a lot of wins in my life, and I know where I’m coming from, and I know where I’ve been, and I know how to get the country to where people really want to see it.

Are you definitely smarter than anyone else who’s running for president this time around?
Well, I guess we can take aptitude tests. I’d certainly be willing to do that.


So you feel confident the answer’s yes.
Yeah. Look, hey, I’ve had great success. I’ve had far more success than anybody.

You talk a lot about your business skills and your negotiating skills—do you think business and the making of deals are the most important qualities in a president?
Well, yeah, I think it’s a big part of it. You know, I built over a ten-billion-dollar net worth, I’ve had tremendous success. I mean, you’re sitting in a building that, frankly, nobody would have ever thought coming out of Brooklyn I was gonna own this building. I built it. I’ve had great success. I don’t think it’s going to be that much different—in fact I think in many ways building a great business is actually harder.


Writers aside:
1. This baffles me at the moment he says it, but afterward I kick myself for not realizing what later seems obvious to me: that he was probably talking about Italy’s Silvio Berlusconi here—a name that didn’t come to my mind immediately because, even setting scandals aside, I don’t readily think of him as a great political leader, though it is true that the Italian people did elect him three times as prime minister and that he was a very rich man who inspired enduring loyalty and belief from a fervid part of the Italian electorate in a way that Trump could well consider both a model and an encouraging example.
 

The_Herban_Legend

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Should we rely on another under cover Democrat operative like Romney? Sink the final two debates, and then concede the election with a month left to go? The GOP would love that. I'm sure they can't wait to work with Hillary. The last person Republicans want to deal with is a conservative president
Denounce god right here, right now or I will reveal to everyone what you sent me In pm. You have 24 hours.
 

Blunted 4 lyfe

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I remember seeing a poll in October of 2012, It had Mitt Romney beating the brakes off of Obama in the election. Polls can be wrong
Was that a right wing leaning poll? Every poll I saw had it too close to call. Nate Silver was the only one who was 100% correct on his poll. The fake news channel had Romney up by only 1 point the week leading to the elections, only right wing media had Romney leading by double digits early in October, other polls had him at mid to low single digit lead or within the margin of error. But you're right it's way too early to lean on any poll as a barometer.

B4L
 

Padawanbater2

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To be fair, Sanders little gem, "climate change is causing terrorism", is just as bad, don't you?
"Department of Defense, Adaptation Roadmap, 2014: The impacts of climate change may cause instability in other countries by impairing access to food and water, damaging infrastructure, spreading disease, uprooting and displacing large numbers of people, compelling mass migration, interrupting commercial activity, or restricting electricity availability. These developments could undermine already-fragile governments that are unable to respond effectively or challenge currently‐stable governments, as well as increasing competition and tension between countries vying for limited resources. These gaps in governance can create an avenue for extremist ideologies and condition that foster terrorism."

http://www.acq.osd.mil/ie/download/CCARprint_wForeword_c.pdf
http://www.pnas.org/content/112/11/3241.full#corresp-1
 

The_Herban_Legend

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"Department of Defense, Adaptation Roadmap, 2014: The impacts of climate change may cause instability in other countries by impairing access to food and water, damaging infrastructure, spreading disease, uprooting and displacing large numbers of people, compelling mass migration, interrupting commercial activity, or restricting electricity availability. These developments could undermine already-fragile governments that are unable to respond effectively or challenge currently‐stable governments, as well as increasing competition and tension between countries vying for limited resources. These gaps in governance can create an avenue for extremist ideologies and condition that foster terrorism."

http://www.acq.osd.mil/ie/download/CCARprint_wForeword_c.pdf
http://www.pnas.org/content/112/11/3241.full#corresp-1
You do know what propaganda is, right? You do know it was used effectively by the Germans in WWII, right? They were able to convince average citizens to commit atrocities.You are telling me that you believe the same government who invades innocent countries (Iraq), tell us they have weapons of mass destruction, a government so corrupt that it waterboarded captured suspected terrorists? Yet you believe it doesn't tie into the democratic ideology? You are smarter than that.

Show me anything the department of defense has said, that in anyway says that climate change is responsible for terrorism, under a Republican president, and I will believe too. Sounds like a bunch "weapons of mass destruction" talk to me.
 

Padawanbater2

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You do know what propaganda is, right? You do know it was used effectively by the Germans in WWII, right? They were able to convince average citizens to commit atrocities.You are telling me that you believe the same government who invades innocent countries (Iraq), tell us they have weapons of mass destruction, a government so corrupt that it waterboarded captured suspected terrorists? Yet you believe it doesn't tie into the democratic ideology? You are smarter than that.

Show me anything the department of defense has said, that in anyway says that climate change is responsible for terrorism, under a Republican president, and I will believe too. Sounds like a bunch "weapons of mass destruction" talk to me.
Nobody, not even Sanders has said climate change is responsible for terrorism. What the DoD has said is that climate change contributes to the causes associated with extremism
 

Padawanbater2

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You guys are lost in the Trump thread

Only 6% of Democrats believe climate change is the most important issue right now. This thread doesn't have 18,000+ views because people want to see a couple of retards discuss Bernie and climate change.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/25/the-new-consensus-97-of-americans-arent-worried-about-global-warming/


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/05/what-the-world-thinks-about-climate-change-in-7-charts/

This is what happens when you rely on only right wing media for information
 

Vikerus Forrest

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Doesn't matter what people might be worried about, what the real issues are should be what we worry to solve. The fighting between each other over civil issues that should have been fixed by the previous generations is getting us no where. I don't appreciate being sold the reasons to fight the world around me by people who can't live and let live. Mean while we can't even manage to feed everyone... So you tell me what is so important... Cause this seems really sad.

Where would war get us if they had no one to sell the guns and munitions? If anyone wants to get real about the world. Jump in and pay attention already.
 

Padawanbater2

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/182105/concern-environmental-threats-eases.aspx
http://www.pollingreport.com/enviro.htm

Wrong again

Like I said before, those that get their information from only one side are statistically less informed than those who read no news at all and you provide a perfect example of that
None of your posts show how the poll (my point) is wrong. It is time for you to focus on your reading and comprehension skills.
Only 6% of Democrats believe climate change is the most important issue right now. /
 

Padawanbater2

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None of your posts show how the poll (my point) is wrong.
Your poll from Tucker Carlson's website, The Daily Caller, isn't scientific and its hilarious you think it is

Pew and Gallup are regarded as scientific, and according to both of them, a majority of Americans are concerned with climate change and even half the republicans polled support limiting greenhouse gas emissions

So that 6% figure is bullshit. If you disagree with that, post a scientific poll that verifies it
 

Not GOP

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Your poll from Tucker Carlson's website, The Daily Caller, isn't scientific and its hilarious you think it is

Pew and Gallup are regarded as scientific, and according to both of them, a majority of Americans are concerned with climate change and even half the republicans polled support limiting greenhouse gas emissions

So that 6% figure is bullshit. If you disagree with that, post a scientific poll that verifies it
The Daily Caller didn't do the poll. You're still confused...
 
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